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in the bible where does God say "Command Me"?

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Mixolydian said:
i made a sarcastic remark which for some reason he took personally (insecure much?) so i attacked back. thats all there is to it.
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Ahh. You seemed serious. The Bible is interesting outside religious faith from a historical and cultural aspect. It is a major contributer to our knowledge and so automatic dismissal makes no rational sense. Unfortunately I've seen it done anyway
 
Any way the point I was trying to make to him is that you can command God in fact He expects it. Those who master Kabbalah can do anything even command the Word(God). God is like a perfect computer that has everything past present and future all at once and can alter any of these for one who knows how.
 
Onceler said:
Any way the point I was trying to make to him is that you can command God in fact He expects it. Those who master Kabbalah can do anything even command the Word(God). God is like a perfect computer that has everything past present and future all at once and can alter any of these for one who knows how.
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QFI
 
God, Christ, faith and the bible are all good. Organized religion in the hands of the corrupt is not. Guess that's why Jesus overturned the tax tables in the temple...
 
renz20003 said:
God, Christ, faith and the bible are all good. Organized religion in the hands of the corrupt is not. Guess that's why Jesus overturned the tax tables in the temple...
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I agree religion is corrupt that's why I am spiritual but not religious in the common sense.
Yes I see the difference.
 
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highland145 said:
QFI
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I hope that means "quoted for insanity".


That said; his argument is essentially the same as Nietzsche's and Marx... He's this | | far away from being an atheist but doesn't know it yet.

One little leap of faith, Onceler, and we can get you over to the Sociology of Knowledge side 🙂

i made a sarcastic remark
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I got that you were trolln'. And I didn't take it personally; I just thought "if stupid pops up, why not smack it down".

And It did

And I did

And it was good,

so sayeth me

God, Christ, faith and the bible are all good. Organized religion in the hands of the corrupt is not. Guess that's why Jesus overturned the tax tables in the temple
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On a more serious note, I can't seem to get into reading the bible. I'm an avid reader, but with the bible I always find myself distracted by often having to puzzle out the meaning. It becomes a chore and then boring. I respect those that are able to plow through it.
 
Greenman said:
On a more serious note, I can't seem to get into reading the bible. I'm an avid reader, but with the bible I always find myself distracted by often having to puzzle out the meaning. It becomes a chore and then boring. I respect those that are able to plow through it.
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First read something in english.

Second, read the parts of it written for roman audiences (say the book of mark to start, romans, and the epistles of paul)

Third, philosophy and the like are meant to be read reflectively. I don't knock through 100 pages of Heidegger in a few hours; Hell, one time I spent a full day working on just a single page.

That said, if you don't get exactly what it means: skip that part. It'll make more sense the next time through.

Hope that helps!
 
DixyCrat said:
You are an illiterate half wit if you don't think that familiarizing yourself with a document, under the auspices of which most of the western world was conquered and ruled for over a thousand years, is of value.

That's like not thinking that reading the constitution or the Principia is of value.


Some folks create the world, and other folks just live in it. -Friedrich Nietzsche
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So I am an illiterate half wit because I don't feel like reading a particular story book?

Religion - The most successful business in the world.
 
Greenman said:
That made me chuckle.
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The original point the OP made is wrong and Charles is right.

Here's more in a current translation.

“Woe to those who quarrel*with their Maker,****those who are nothing but potsherds****among the potsherds on the ground.Does the clay say to the potter,****‘What are you making?’Does your work say,****‘The potter has no hands’?

10*Woe to the one who says to a father,****‘What have you begotten?’or to a mother,****‘What have you brought to birth?’

11*“This is what the*Lord*says—****the Holy One*of Israel, and its Maker:Concerning things to come,****do you question me about my children,****or give me orders about the work of my hands?

12*It is I who made the earth****and created mankind on it.My own hands stretched out the heavens;****I marshaled their starry hosts.

13*I will raise up Cyrus*in my righteousness:****I will make all his ways straight. He will rebuild my city****and set my exiles free,but not for a price or reward,****says the*Lord*Almighty.”



Yeah formatting sucks, but it shoots down the original proposition.
 
DaTT said:
So I am an illiterate half wit because I don't feel like reading a particular story book?

Religion - The most successful business in the world.
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It shows wilful ignorance because of a false sense of superiority. I assume you are literate.
 
DaTT said:
So I am an illiterate half wit because I don't feel like reading a particular story book?

Religion - The most successful business in the world.
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1) I was being hyperbolic, I should have said "willfully ignorant"
2) I didn't say that you had to 'feel' like reading it
3) My argument was predicated on your intellectual assent that it is of value

The value of disposing of ignorance is not something you have questioned; thus you do not necessarily fall into the willfully-ignorant category. If, though, you can't see that this particular 'story book' (which it is, but it contains much more as well: poetry, pre-history, philosophy, etc.) has been massively influential on how we came to be the society we are, and thus valuable for learning from and explaining to others how to change things...

Then you've placed yourself back into the willfully ignorant category; not a personal insult, but an observation of your personal desire vis a vis where you land amongst persons in society.
 
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