In Kansas, 9 former Republicans run as Democrats

[techs]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061102/pl_nm/usa_elections_kansas_dc

mini-rebellion is under way in an American Heartland state so historically unswingable that neither national party typically spends much time or energy stumping for candidates.

But this year President George W. Bush, the country's leading Republican, is making a last-minute campaign stop in Kansas, where at least nine candidates running on the November 7 ballot are Republicans-turned-Democrats. They include a veteran county prosecutor seeking to unseat the Republican attorney general and a former state Republican Party chairman running as the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor.

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.



At least the people in Kansas understand the Republican party is NO more.
Its now the neo-con party with vastly different political priorities.
Kudos to Kansas.

 

[Genx87]

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

Agreed...the sooner BOTH parties make it clear what they really stand for, the better. The more "small government" types the Republicans drive away, the less they'll be able to play at being conservative. And the more pro-gay marriage types the Democrats attract, the more that will become a major issue for them...for better or worse.

 

[theeedude]

Yep, "conservative" is a dirty word now too. Saw Hitchens on CNN, he was adamant that he not be called a "conservative."

 

[nageov3t]

it's a crazy, crazy world.

steele in maryland is running as a democrat. I mean, literally... his bumper stickers say Steele: Democrat and are a nice shade of blue 😉

 

[theeedude]

There is no room in GOP for moderates. It's all politics of the base now. I am not surprised to see moderates jumping ship.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Yep, "conservative" is a dirty word now too. Saw Hitchens on CNN, he was adamant that he not be called a "conservative."

Indeed. Personally I think this is going to bite the Republicans in the ass sooner or later. Right now they still have enough tradition to run as "conservatives", but all signs point to them becoming the party of authoritarian religious folks. And there just aren't enough of them to make it a winning strategy. The Republicans are going to eventually drive away all the real conservatives, and I think that's a little too much of the country to make it a good idea.

 

[PELarson]

Anopther R.I.N.O. I guess!

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

It seems like yesterday these were "Common Sense Republicans". Maybe my memory is failing me?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

/agree

there are a number of republican canidates that I'd vote for if they were registered as democrats and voting for them didn't mean giving control of the senate and house over to the right wing fundamentalists.

it's great to be a lincoln chafee and try and be a liberal republican, but it doesn't mean much when he's sitting on his hands as the republican party goes in a direction in complete opposition to his own personal politics.

 

[Craig234]

The republican party can't 'make it clear what it stands for', because it doesn't know itself, and because most republicans believe in one set of principles while it's been hijacked by a group who just uses those phrases for marketing and has a very different agenda.

George Bush said he was a 'compassionate conservative' and his policies are the opposite. He said he was for 'humility' in our foreign relations and has done the opposite. He said he was against nation building, and well, he is (he hasn't re-built Afghanistan, or Iraq, or New Orleans), but he's put himself in the situation of needing to nation build. He didn't tell the nation he was going to spend this much, that he was going to return to big deficits, that he was going to skyrocket corruption and appoint 200 lobbyists of donor industries to oversee those same industries.

What's happening is that more and more republicans are recognizing the truth, that they've been 'duped'; more did so with David Kuo's new book that reveals that the Bush regime milks the religious right for votes like cows, and has contempt for them behind their back, like Jack Abramoff and his 'mongoloid' Indian clients.

Corruption is often hard for those duped to see, precisely because it hides in the respected clothing of preachers, of presidents, where many find it hard to question the authority.

It's painful, just as it was with Nixon while he milked the respect for the presidency to tear people apart between their patriotism and seeing the plain fact that he was a lawbreaker, as they play all the vicious cards that their critics are somehow 'traitors', sowing conflict between patriots.

But more and more are seeing the current regime for what it is, and switching sides.

 

[BoomerD]

I just wonder how many of those "reformed replicans" would revert back to repubs once they were elected as Democrats? Wouldn't be the first time someone has changed sides of the aisle after they were elected.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

It seems like yesterday these were "Common Sense Republicans". Maybe my memory is failing me?

I dont know maybe a Compassionate conservative?

In other words I want to be a social liberal but try to retain a conservative tag for votes?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: senseamp
Yep, "conservative" is a dirty word now too. Saw Hitchens on CNN, he was adamant that he not be called a "conservative."

Indeed. Personally I think this is going to bite the Republicans in the ass sooner or later. Right now they still have enough tradition to run as "conservatives", but all signs point to them becoming the party of authoritarian religious folks. And there just aren't enough of them to make it a winning strategy. The Republicans are going to eventually drive away all the real conservatives, and I think that's a little too much of the country to make it a good idea.

They should just rename it the Religious Party

 

[Wreckem]

What democrats need to realize is almost all of their gains in this years elections will be coming from moderate to conservative democrats. IMHO this is good, more moderates need to be elected.

I can see staunch liberal democrats not being happy with things in the next couple of years because even though they will likely control the house and possibly senate, theres not going to be a strong liberal agenda.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

It seems like yesterday these were "Common Sense Republicans". Maybe my memory is failing me?

Or Moderate Republicans. Or Fiscal Conservatives.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

Yes because polarization is good. 😕

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

Yes, the "Republicans" that you so love need to be less diluted by moderation, fiscal responsability, tolerant behaviors, and forward-thinking methodologies.

In otherwords, it needs to be re-labeled as the "We hate everybody, want a bigger government, religious monarchy, you have no privacy" party. Succinctly, the neo-Fascist party.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

It seems like yesterday these were "Common Sense Republicans". Maybe my memory is failing me?

I dont know maybe a Compassionate conservative?

In other words I want to be a social liberal but try to retain a conservative tag for votes?

The main stream republican party is socially conservative and fiscally liberal. Which is just f'in assbackwards. It use to be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but thats not the case anymore. Atleast the democrats aren't confused and are both socially and fiscally liberal.

All these people you are calling RINO's got it right, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

IMHO most americans are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. These "RINOs" are good for america.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

The main stream republican party is socially conservative and fiscally liberal. Which is just f'in assbackwards. It use to be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but thats not the case anymore. Atleast the democrats aren't confused and are both socially and fiscally liberal.

All these people you are calling RINO's got it right, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

IMHO most americans are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. These "RINOs" are good for america.

Truth is, there wasn't really a "socially conservative" part to old Republicans. There was "get the hell out of my business" and "Quit spending my money", but there was never "queers can't marry". That changed with the gipper.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

Yes because polarization is good. 😕

How is pushing people who dont really stand for what the party does back into the party that does polarization?

This is called cleaning house.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

Yes, the "Republicans" that you so love need to be less diluted by moderation, fiscal responsability, tolerant behaviors, and forward-thinking methodologies.

In otherwords, it needs to be re-labeled as the "We hate everybody, want a bigger government, religious monarchy, you have no privacy" party. Succinctly, the neo-Fascist party.

These RINOs are what cause ballooning federal budgets, social programs, and deficits that come with them.

But dont let your cluelessness cloud your judgement. That last line is a doozy.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

It seems like yesterday these were "Common Sense Republicans". Maybe my memory is failing me?

I dont know maybe a Compassionate conservative?

In other words I want to be a social liberal but try to retain a conservative tag for votes?

The main stream republican party is socially conservative and fiscally liberal. Which is just f'in assbackwards. It use to be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but thats not the case anymore. Atleast the democrats aren't confused and are both socially and fiscally liberal.

All these people you are calling RINO's got it right, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

IMHO most americans are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. These "RINOs" are good for america.

Let them run under the democrat banner then. If they are so good for America they can win elections in the party where they belong.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

Yes, the "Republicans" that you so love need to be less diluted by moderation, fiscal responsability, tolerant behaviors, and forward-thinking methodologies.

In otherwords, it needs to be re-labeled as the "We hate everybody, want a bigger government, religious monarchy, you have no privacy" party. Succinctly, the neo-Fascist party.

These RINOs are what cause ballooning federal budgets, social programs, and deficits that come with them.

But dont let your cluelessness cloud your judgement. That last line is a doozy.

Are you ashamed of your neo-con policies? Its the neo-cons who are responsible for the ballooning federal budgets, social programs and deficits. Or perhaps you missed the neo-cons Medicare drug benefit? Or tax cuts without budget cuts? And the neo-con leader who claims "deficits don't matter"
So don't try and hide. Come out and stand up for your policies.
Because it is those policies Republicans are running from.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genx87

A cross-section of Democrats, moderate Republicans and independents are backing the party-switchers, saying a Republican obsession with expanded government and deficit spending, along with divisive social issues like abortion and gay marriage, has marred efforts to limit government, boost spending on education and ensure fiscal responsibility.

In other words they resemble democrats.

I believe we call them RINOs

Republican
In
Name
Only

The sooner push them back to the other side of the aisle the better imo.

It seems like yesterday these were "Common Sense Republicans". Maybe my memory is failing me?

I dont know maybe a Compassionate conservative?

In other words I want to be a social liberal but try to retain a conservative tag for votes?

The main stream republican party is socially conservative and fiscally liberal. Which is just f'in assbackwards. It use to be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but thats not the case anymore. Atleast the democrats aren't confused and are both socially and fiscally liberal.

All these people you are calling RINO's got it right, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

IMHO most americans are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. These "RINOs" are good for america.

Let them run under the democrat banner then. If they are so good for America they can win elections in the party where they belong.

The smartest guy I personally know (Rhoades scholar) and a life long time Republican (started the local chapter of Young Republicans) switched to the Dems about 10 years ago. It was basically over threats to him and his family over his stance on abortion.

He tried to run as a Dem, but got beat (go figure, we're about as red as you get out here), so he quit politics, well actually quit running for office, but I think his timing was off. It will be interesting to see what happens with our abortion vote this election. I really hope they throw it out and the Govenor along with it.