In a war, who would win

[CanOWorms]

I'd go with the Israelis. All they have to do is kidnap the Queen and then the limeys would just surrender.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: altonb1

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: altonb1
Without trying to turn this into a religious debate, I'd go with Israel because they are God's chosen people.

God's chosen people? You just made me spit soda all over my screen. People actually believe that?

I mean, I like to tease Christians about that, but I didn't think anyone truly believed it.

Did I indicate anything less? Israel is a formidable force and I truly believe they have the Hand Of God upon them in battle.

Wow, just amazing.

alright, using God is cheating. So for the sake of argument, let's assume God loves all his children equally and watches as an observer

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Britain would dominate

I couldn't see USA not supporting Britain.

we keep the US out of the equation, and in any case, I bet the USA would intervene on Israel's behalf. There's just more strategic reason to do so, and both are major US allies

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: Britboy
We'd pwn those biatches😀

Yep. 😀
With the SAS for black ops, we're golden.

Sorry, what colour are we again? Black? Gold? 😕



😉

*sends SAS in*

Israel has comprable special ops forces:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayeret_Matkal

Let's also assume that other ME countries don't intervene, and that it's simply a unilateral strike by Britain against Israel. Since Britain is the only country of the two with actual projection capabilities, it would be Britain invading Israel. Also keep in mind that nearly all of Israel is battle ready, while most Brits would remain civilians. Since Britain is projecting, there are also bigger logistics issues at stake here.

 

[archiloco]

if england invade israel, israel could hold out for a while and maybe win out of pity......

if israel invade england, israel would loose.

 

[ThePresence]

If it was straight military vs. military UK would probably win after a long, hard war, simply because they can sustain millions more casulties than Israel and continue to be an effective fighting force. However, you have to take into account the Israeli intelligence agents probably operating in the UK right now. Israel would probably be able to sabotage any attack before it started.

<---served in the Israeli military.

 

[WildHorse]

Nobody "wins."

War is a loss for the whole world, all the way around.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Israel would lose

Britain is much stronger than Israel.. much stronger.

That is unless the U.S keeps feeding Israel weapons. Then things will be different.

Israel's economy is no match for Britain's economy and neither is their military.

Britain has been in the game much much much much longer.

You've just been brainwashed since you're Iranian. You automatically hate Israel.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
Israel has nukes. End of game.

So does England.

 

[darkxshade]

If a war broke out between the UK & Isreal, I'd say the terrorists would win. 😀

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: scott
Nobody "wins."

War is a loss for the whole world, all the way around.

Quit it with the PC bs. If someone conquers you, they can declare themselves the "winner", and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[computeerrgghh]

If the RAF can keep the IAF off of the British Navy, I think the war would be "shock and awe" from the sea. Britain would eventually win by firing all the cruise missiles it has.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
If the RAF can keep the IAF off of the British Navy, I think the war would be "shock and awe" from the sea. Britain would eventually win by firing all the cruise missiles it has.

that's a big "if"

 

[classy]

Isarel

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: classy
Isarel

That's not even a choice.

 

[compnovice]

Originally posted by: fitzov
Britain has James Bond and Austin Powers.

😀

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
If it was straight military vs. military UK would probably win after a long, hard war, simply because they can sustain millions more casulties than Israel and continue to be an effective fighting force. However, you have to take into account the Israeli intelligence agents probably operating in the UK right now. Israel would probably be able to sabotage any attack before it started.

<---served in the Israeli military.

I wonder how many spies Israel has in the U.S. Government...

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ThePresence
If it was straight military vs. military UK would probably win after a long, hard war, simply because they can sustain millions more casulties than Israel and continue to be an effective fighting force. However, you have to take into account the Israeli intelligence agents probably operating in the UK right now. Israel would probably be able to sabotage any attack before it started.

<---served in the Israeli military.

I wonder how many spies Israel has in the U.S. Government...

Probably a lot. If you dare to call a Jewish person sneaky or suspicious, you instantly get called an anti-semite, even if the guy you're calling sneaky is a spy. So the spying continues.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ThePresence
If it was straight military vs. military UK would probably win after a long, hard war, simply because they can sustain millions more casulties than Israel and continue to be an effective fighting force. However, you have to take into account the Israeli intelligence agents probably operating in the UK right now. Israel would probably be able to sabotage any attack before it started.

<---served in the Israeli military.

I wonder how many spies Israel has in the U.S. Government...

Probably a lot. If you dare to call a Jewish person sneaky or suspicious, you instantly get called an anti-semite, even if the guy you're calling sneaky is a spy. So the spying continues.

Yeah, that's probably the reason why. :roll:
I'm sure it's the same reason Eli Cohen almost became Syrian Minister of Defense.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: five40
I'd go with Israel just because they are ALWAYS fighting someone. 6 day war anyone? Also I think that they have a little bit of that "We are nuts" streak in them.

6 day war? They pre-empted an ill-prepared Arab coalition ground force with their superior air force. First, Israel has no means to project power into Western Europe, and second they would meet the British Air force, not a bunch of AK toting thugs on the ground. Israel is in continuous combat, however half the time they are fighting against kids armed with rocks or terrorists shooting from windows. The Israeli army is exceptional at fighting door to door, but Britain would likely destroy their cities first, then engage the Israeli's in a more conventional conflict...which even though the British would have an extended supply line they would have the upper hand.

Ill-prepared ? Egypt had a very capable army and air force, on paper anyway. So did Syria.

As good an air force as Britain has, I doubt they could establish air superiority over Israel.
Over the very long run, Britain probably could win with a naval blockade, but the whole scenario is a fantasy, so that kind of tactice could never actually work in the real world.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: five40
I'd go with Israel just because they are ALWAYS fighting someone. 6 day war anyone? Also I think that they have a little bit of that "We are nuts" streak in them.

6 day war? They pre-empted an ill-prepared Arab coalition ground force with their superior air force. First, Israel has no means to project power into Western Europe, and second they would meet the British Air force, not a bunch of AK toting thugs on the ground. Israel is in continuous combat, however half the time they are fighting against kids armed with rocks or terrorists shooting from windows. The Israeli army is exceptional at fighting door to door, but Britain would likely destroy their cities first, then engage the Israeli's in a more conventional conflict...which even though the British would have an extended supply line they would have the upper hand.

Ill-prepared ? Egypt had a very capable army and air force, on paper anyway. So did Syria.

As good an air force as Britain has, I doubt they could establish air superiority over Israel.
Over the very long run, Britain probably could win with a naval blockade, but the whole scenario is a fantasy, so that kind of tactice could never actually work in the real world.

Seriously, look up the Yom Kippur War.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Yeah, that's probably the reason why. :roll:
I'm sure it's the same reason Eli Cohen almost became Syrian Minister of Defense.

No, it's because he was trustworthy.
:roll:

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: five40
I'd go with Israel just because they are ALWAYS fighting someone. 6 day war anyone? Also I think that they have a little bit of that "We are nuts" streak in them.

6 day war? They pre-empted an ill-prepared Arab coalition ground force with their superior air force. First, Israel has no means to project power into Western Europe, and second they would meet the British Air force, not a bunch of AK toting thugs on the ground. Israel is in continuous combat, however half the time they are fighting against kids armed with rocks or terrorists shooting from windows. The Israeli army is exceptional at fighting door to door, but Britain would likely destroy their cities first, then engage the Israeli's in a more conventional conflict...which even though the British would have an extended supply line they would have the upper hand.

Ill-prepared ? Egypt had a very capable army and air force, on paper anyway. So did Syria.

As good an air force as Britain has, I doubt they could establish air superiority over Israel.
Over the very long run, Britain probably could win with a naval blockade, but the whole scenario is a fantasy, so that kind of tactice could never actually work in the real world.

Seriously, look up the Yom Kippur War.

Hello ? The 6 day war is not the Yom Kippur War. The 6 day war happened in 1967. I was old enough during both of them to follow them in the news media, sometimes it helps to be old.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Yeah, that's probably the reason why. :roll:
I'm sure it's the same reason Eli Cohen almost became Syrian Minister of Defense.

No, it's because he was trustworthy.
:roll:

Correct. He established that trustworthiness through excellent fieldcraft and great training.
Not because anyone in the Syrian government was afraid of being called an Anti-Semite. And he's just one case (probably one of the most successful intelligence agents ever), but he's one man that we know about. There are probably many that we never did or ever will hear of. And their successes have absolutely nothing to do with people being afraid to be called anti semitic. It's has to do with with good fieldcraft, training, etc.

 

[JinLien]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
having been in isreal with the US Navy and having played war games against them and the brits.
Id go with Isreal hands down in a conventional war..

The have been fighting every day of thier lives agaisnt counties bigger and technically stronger than they are..

thier Airforce is superior and thier troops are among the best trained and most motivated in the world..

Israelis are better train, but they wouldn't have a leg to stand on even against the little backwater Palestine population if the US doesn?t support them with money & weapons. The 4 million population is so small it wouldn't stand a chance against pretty much anyone.

CIA The World Fact Book Rank Order - GDP (purchasing power parity)

Israel 2005 GDP -- $129 billion

United Kingdom 2005 GDP -- $1869 billion