That's if the dream job is offered to me. To date, I am still waiting for their response. I know a decision will be made this week. I just don't think our director will let me wait it out.
mikeymikec
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The other thing to consider is that I'm pretty sure that you can't be 100% sure that it's a dream job until you've worked in it for a year. 'The grass is always greener on the other side' scenario.
purbeast0
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i wouldn't take it. you were looking for a job so you obviously aren't happy in your current position. sure a 30% raise would make you happy temporarily, but after a few weeks you will once again realize you aren't happy there for other reasons, none of which they will have fixed. you will be miserable once again.
when i left my previous job they literally asked me 'what can we do to get you to stay?' and i told them nothing, short of firing a few people. and my reasons for leaving were nothing at all to do with money.
and if your director is rushing you, that is an even worse sign in my eyes. he's trying to basically bully you into the position. remember - if you stay there, his company makes more money. it is always in his best interest to try and keep you around.
when i left my previous job they literally asked me 'what can we do to get you to stay?' and i told them nothing, short of firing a few people. and my reasons for leaving were nothing at all to do with money.
and if your director is rushing you, that is an even worse sign in my eyes. he's trying to basically bully you into the position. remember - if you stay there, his company makes more money. it is always in his best interest to try and keep you around.
I would not take the offer from your boss.
Being happy is more important if you'd rather take one of your other offers. (Should you get them)
I put my money where my mouth is as well, I just resigned from my current job last week to take one with I think a better future upgrade path. (and closer to home)
Happy > Money
Being happy is more important if you'd rather take one of your other offers. (Should you get them)
I put my money where my mouth is as well, I just resigned from my current job last week to take one with I think a better future upgrade path. (and closer to home)
Happy > Money
coloumb
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Just curious if your current position is hourly or salary?
Managerial type positions are typically salary and involve LONG hours without overtime pay - so the 30% pay increase might not be that great after you've been working 80+ hours a week [at least that's what I see happen to friends/family who are in managerial type roles].
Since you already applied at other places which you consider to be a "dream job" - the answer is simple - just say thank you but you'll have to decline.
Managerial type positions are typically salary and involve LONG hours without overtime pay - so the 30% pay increase might not be that great after you've been working 80+ hours a week [at least that's what I see happen to friends/family who are in managerial type roles].
Since you already applied at other places which you consider to be a "dream job" - the answer is simple - just say thank you but you'll have to decline.
How important is the 30% to you?
If I was planning to leave, even if I was not given an offer for my dream job, I'd continue to look until I get an offer. So turning it down(the promotion) really isn't a big deal if you're set on leaving. Once you have that mentality, you can reject the offer and ask if it's still open if your dream job turns you down. If it's still open, you can take it or if it's not, you keep looking for a better job.
If I was planning to leave, even if I was not given an offer for my dream job, I'd continue to look until I get an offer. So turning it down(the promotion) really isn't a big deal if you're set on leaving. Once you have that mentality, you can reject the offer and ask if it's still open if your dream job turns you down. If it's still open, you can take it or if it's not, you keep looking for a better job.
rh71
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I have happiness in the work that I do at my current job. But I have little money year after year after year here. I feel like crap because of it. Where does that leave me?
To the OP, 30% is nice, but if it were me I scoff at managerial positions. Depending on your age, I would continue the dream job hunt.
highland145
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It would still be a pain if he left and the company decided to take him to court.
PingSpike
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I was in sort of a similar situation. I interviewed for two jobs at almost the same time. I felt like I got both of them. The one I wanted less called and offered it to me. I was noncommittal but tried to sound excited on the phone. I didn't want to turn down a decent job waiting around for another one so I called the manager I interviewed with at the other company and just told them what was going on. I wasn't a dick making demands or anything but it was obvious what I needed from them and they obliged. Then they just fast tracked the offer letter while I stalled for a couple days.
I recommend you do the same. I see no downside. If the company isn't going to hire you they'll either tell you flat out or give you some spiel about how they're still exploring their options (which means the same thing). Then you'll know.
I recommend you do the same. I see no downside. If the company isn't going to hire you they'll either tell you flat out or give you some spiel about how they're still exploring their options (which means the same thing). Then you'll know.
olds
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Almost answered your own question.
Would you be willing to burn a bridge?
If so and you don't have to sign anything, take his offer. If other job comes up, take it.
If you have to sign something, don't accept and ask for more time. You probably won't get it though. And if you decline and he knows you're looking, he may let you go.
If you don't want to burn a bridge, decline. Keep working till another job comes up. If he lets you go, it was on him, not you.
In the future, try not to let employer know you are looking.
Interesting discussion so far. The reason he knew was because some headhunter called to verify my employment without permission. In a small office that I am in, the words get around rather quickly.
PowerEngineer
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To me the key question you need to answer is: does my "dream job" involve managing people?
I'm guessing (perhaps incorrectly) that the offers you are waiting on do not involve management responsibilities. An early career opportunity to gain supervisory experience might be worth a (moral) two-year commitment -- but only if management is a career goal.
Good luck either way.
I'm guessing (perhaps incorrectly) that the offers you are waiting on do not involve management responsibilities. An early career opportunity to gain supervisory experience might be worth a (moral) two-year commitment -- but only if management is a career goal.
Good luck either way.
purbeast0
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- Sep 13, 2001
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definitely don't stay then. he basically gave you a counter offer before you received an offer. terrible idea to accept.
why didn't he offer you this promotion prior to you searching for jobs? gotta ask yourself that question.
OBLAMA2009
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