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And yet you bill yourself here as Fanatical Meat! :p:eek:;)

I know, as I’ve said Bill Gates gave me this forum name.
Dudes I worked with were into Shadow Run on the Xbox. I had zero interest in buying an Xbox to play with them. They ended up allowing PC to Xbox cross play and I finally gave in.
I had to create a windows live games whatever account. The site asked a few random questions and gave you suggestions. My first was Fanatical Red or something with a color. I didn’t like the color, so I hit the second randomizes button and “Meat” appeared.
 

brianmanahan

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You know how I know I'm not addicted? I have never even once contemplated something like this:

i remember seeing bull calves walking around the barnyard like that

they didn't seem to mind too much, but then again, they couldn't talk
 

clamum

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"And just because watching porn releases pleasure-inducing neurotransmitters or changes the structure of our brain, that also doesn’t mean it’s addictive." Haha, right. I'd be willing to bet my former therapist, an addiction specialist, would think otherwise. "Oh people just do it because it makes them feel good," he says. Lmao yeah and that's why people do drugs too.

I don't really get these people who think porn is harmless. If you can't stop watching porn, for say six months, then you're addicted.
 

BUTCH1

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That's some crafty wordplay just to distinguish between obsession and addiction and using a speciific qualifier



Switch the noun with video games and the professor would be justifiably torn apart. A video addict in Korea who just gamed without end for 3 days or 7 days would never report it as an addiction but if he drops dead....it's kind of obvious the level of self-harm is far greater than his own perception of his addiction.

Me, I'll probably never really bother with hardcore porn.

Yeah, I've watched some video from pornos...but strictly in the "seduction phase". I don't have interest in the jerky phase and probably never will. So, I consider myself clean of addiction from porn or alcohol or the usual vices.
So you have to seduce yourself before you jerk off?, that's different..
 
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I don't really get these people who think porn is harmless. If you can't stop watching porn, for say six months, then you're addicted.
There are people with a shoe fetish, literally addicted to smelling and licking shoes. That doesn't mean we should ban shoes, or that shoes are the problem.

Seriously, if you don't quickly get bored of watching a ton of porn, the problem isn't porn per se, it's you. You may just need to get out more, you know?

Some folks smoke way too much pot than is good for them. Other folks are serious alcoholics. That doesn't mean we should criminalize the use of either.

None of this is to say that the entire porn "industry" is a lovely enterprise full of high minded people, or that some, if not many of the women who turn to porn don't have serious emotional problems.

It just means that, historically, trying to legislate morality has never really worked well.
 
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"And just because watching porn releases pleasure-inducing neurotransmitters or changes the structure of our brain, that also doesn’t mean it’s addictive." Haha, right. I'd be willing to bet my former therapist, an addiction specialist, would think otherwise. "Oh people just do it because it makes them feel good," he says. Lmao yeah and that's why people do drugs too.

I don't really get these people who think porn is harmless. If you can't stop watching porn, for say six months, then you're addicted.

well first I would have to ask, is it the porn that you find to be bad (or NOT harmless to use your words) - or is it the masturbation part?

You realize it's kind of natural human biology to relieve oneself, right?

I mean, if it makes you feel better than you can keep it to nocturnal wet-dreams, but I assure you that isn't the natural way it was intended lol.
 

BUTCH1

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There are people with a shoe fetish, literally addicted to smelling and licking shoes. That doesn't mean we should ban shoes, or that shoes are the problem.

Seriously, if you don't quickly get bored of watching a ton of porn, the problem isn't porn per se, it's you. You may just need to get out more, you know?

Some folks smoke way too much pot than is good for them. Other folks are serious alcoholics. That doesn't mean we should criminalize the use of either.

None of this is to say that the entire porn "industry" is a lovely enterprise full of high minded people, or that some, if not many of the women who turn to porn don't have serious emotional problems.

It just means that, historically, trying to legislate morality has never really worked well.
I knew a guy who was, (back a ways when Ebay let you sell anything) selling his wife's used panties, (she was pretty hot) and making good dime doing it. I guess the thing was to sniff them during masturbation to "enhance" the experience.
 

Torn Mind

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There are people with a shoe fetish, literally addicted to smelling and licking shoes. That doesn't mean we should ban shoes, or that shoes are the problem.

Seriously, if you don't quickly get bored of watching a ton of porn, the problem isn't porn per se, it's you. You may just need to get out more, you know?

Some folks smoke way too much pot than is good for them. Other folks are serious alcoholics. That doesn't mean we should criminalize the use of either.

None of this is to say that the entire porn "industry" is a lovely enterprise full of high minded people, or that some, if not many of the women who turn to porn don't have serious emotional problems.

It just means that, historically, trying to legislate morality has never really worked well.
Criminalization merely means the government's policing arm can get involved. De-stigmatization or removing the taboo on something is entirely another matter and not necessarily tied with decriminalization. Something like cigarettes should be taboo because they provide no benefit but a reliable income stream to the manufacturers and the medical system.

The reason certain things are legal is simply that the resistance won out against the state. That is, economic demand could not be controlled.


Alcohol's kill and damage count is very high. But because people simply make their own when banned, the cost of banning simply is too much for the government to be worth it.

Temperance was strictly a 19th century movement in response to particular deleterious effects, and it is foolishly common to project the morality of the 19th to generations prior when the attitude towards booze was far more accepting. Proper social drinkers can simply dine and wine and not ever have to repeatedly buy it.

There are numerous official "disorders" to distinguish the various forms and degree of severity with regards to drink. Someone who could be just a "problem drinker". Or someone is big-time addicted.
 

clamum

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There are people with a shoe fetish, literally addicted to smelling and licking shoes. That doesn't mean we should ban shoes, or that shoes are the problem.

Seriously, if you don't quickly get bored of watching a ton of porn, the problem isn't porn per se, it's you. You may just need to get out more, you know?

Some folks smoke way too much pot than is good for them. Other folks are serious alcoholics. That doesn't mean we should criminalize the use of either.

None of this is to say that the entire porn "industry" is a lovely enterprise full of high minded people, or that some, if not many of the women who turn to porn don't have serious emotional problems.

It just means that, historically, trying to legislate morality has never really worked well.
Yeah that is a good point. But I wasn't saying we should ban pornography. My post was more a reaction to people (like the guy in that article from the OP) denying that porn addiction is a thing, or that there's nothing wrong with a porn addiction.
 

Baked

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I watch it for the great acting. My favorite genre right now is films from Japan.

I don't really get these people who think porn is harmless. If you can't stop watching porn, for say six months, then you're addicted.
Based on your logic, everyone who's in a sexual relationship, and has sex on a regular basis is by your definition, a sex addict.
 

dank69

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I never thought I was addicted, just fatigued.
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