Imperials vs Rebels, Star Wars "Werewolf" Game 1 **SIGNUPS CLOSED**

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Chiropteran

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I have a bad feeling about this.

Once a vote is made but before it's final, can anyone change their vote. I know it's too late for this one, but for future task votes.

Yes, until majority is reached re: plans and until I post the results post, you can change your vote by sending a new PM or posting an alternate vote. Of course once the task plan is accepted it's too late to change the team members.

Also: don't edit old posts to change a vote.
 

baoytl

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It's not my fault! It's not my fault!
I did misunderstood though. I thought the scanner could be use at the start of the turn not at the time the task is finalized. Otherwise I would have not have given it to DixyCrat since he won't be able to use it till after the team is assembled. Ideally I would have given it to the 3rd or 4th manager.
 

PenguinPower

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It's not my fault! It's not my fault!
I did misunderstood though. I thought the scanner could be use at the start of the turn not at the time the task is finalized. Otherwise I would have not have given it to DixyCrat since he won't be able to use it till after the team is assembled. Ideally I would have given it to the 3rd or 4th manager.

I think you are protesting a bit too much unprovoked. It was your team, you picked them, they failed...you are responsible. You are Rebel scum!
 

PenguinPower

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Hmm...I was kidding a bit above, but now that I look at it the Success, Success, Failure lines up with how the team was picked in baoytl's post and Chiropteran's followup.

akenbennu - Success
Charmonium - Success
baoytl - Catastrophic Failure

Coincidence?
 

PenguinPower

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Can Dixy share the results of his force scan afterward? Or is the knowledge restricted to him? If he can share, I would suggest he scan baoytl.
 

Chiropteran

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Dixy is free to say whatever he wants, which may or may not reveal the results of the scan. But that isn't until after the next task is accepted.
 

Storma

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Hmm...I was kidding a bit above, but now that I look at it the Success, Success, Failure lines up with how the team was picked in baoytl's post and Chiropteran's followup.

akenbennu - Success
Charmonium - Success
baoytl - Catastrophic Failure

Coincidence?
Oh snappp. I think your right.
 

baoytl

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I was quoting Han but I guess quoting a rebel sympathizer isn't the smartest move. I couldn't resist.
 

Charmonium

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Dixy is free to say whatever he wants, which may or may not reveal the results of the scan. But that isn't until after the next task is accepted.
Dixy is a sneaky, lying wolf . . . I mean Cylon . . . what are we playing again?
 

baoytl

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Or the order of the success/fail could be the order the PMs were submitted. Or it could be randomized. Because it's definitely not the order I listed.
 

Charmonium

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As much as I would like to have proof of my undying loyalty to the Empire, I don't think we can infer anything from the order of pm's - can we? And how would we even know the order. I guess we're assuming that Chiro listed them in the order received. But that might be a dangerous assumption. As game master, it's in his interest to reveal only as much as the game requires - right? Otherwise, if we know we can rely on him to give away who voted for what, that makes things too easy for the empire.

Of course it's completely possible (likely) I have no idea what's going on.
 

PenguinPower

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As much as I would like to have proof of my undying loyalty to the Empire, I don't think we can infer anything from the order of pm's - can we? And how would we even know the order. I guess we're assuming that Chiro listed them in the order received. But that might be a dangerous assumption. As game master, it's in his interest to reveal only as much as the game requires - right? Otherwise, if we know we can rely on him to give away who voted for what, that makes things too easy for the empire.

Of course it's completely possible (likely) I have no idea what's going on.

Who says it's proof that you're an Imperial? It's quite possible that baoytl chose you knowing you were a rebel, because it only takes one to cause the mission to fail.

What I know...at least one of those three is a Rebel. Success, Success, Failure implicated baoytl in the order that baoytl submitted. Dixy should check baoytl and report.
 

keird

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As much as I would like to have proof of my undying loyalty to the Empire, I don't think we can infer anything from the order of pm's - can we? And how would we even know the order. I guess we're assuming that Chiro listed them in the order received. But that might be a dangerous assumption. As game master, it's in his interest to reveal only as much as the game requires - right? Otherwise, if we know we can rely on him to give away who voted for what, that makes things too easy for the empire.

Of course it's completely possible (likely) I have no idea what's going on.

I'm not even playing but you are being sneaky and manipulative... like a Cylon with a ground fault. Masterfully sneaky.
 

Charmonium

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Who says it's proof that you're an Imperial? It's quite possible that baoytl chose you knowing you were a rebel, because it only takes one to cause the mission to fail.

What I know...at least one of those three is a Rebel. Success, Success, Failure implicated baoytl in the order that baoytl submitted. Dixy should check baoytl and report.
The way you listed the responses, it looked like you were listing me as having voted 'success' which is in fact true and I would love to be able to prove that fact. I'm just saying that we don't really know who to trust at this point unless we can infer something from the way the votes are reported. I mean technically, all I'm doing is observing the obvious - at least I think I am since I'm not really clear on how the game is played yet.

I'm not even playing but you are being sneaky and manipulative... like a Cylon with a ground fault. Masterfully sneaky.
As a complete newb to this style of play, I don't know enough to even think about trying to be deceptive. If I did try, I'm virtually certain I would end up shooting myself and my beloved Empire in its metaphorical foot.
 

PenguinPower

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The way you listed the responses, it looked like you were listing me as having voted 'success' which is in fact true and I would love to be able to prove that fact. I'm just saying that we don't really know who to trust at this point unless we can infer something from the way the votes are reported. I mean technically, all I'm doing is observing the obvious - at least I think I am since I'm not really clear on how the game is played yet.

That's fair. However, we have nothing else to go on as far as the force scanner, so it would still be wise for Dixy to check as I mentioned above. Maybe the order meant nothing...maybe it did. Let's have Dixy check and report.
 

baoytl

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Yes. I meant the order it was posted definitely is not link to the way I listed it. Otherwise it would have been either pass, fail, pass or fail, pass, pass.

All I know is one of them is a rebel for sure. And the way you're trying to deflect attention away from the rebel makes me suspicious. Either you're a rebel scum too or just an overzealous imperial trooper.
 

Dr. Zaus

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I'm loving this.

Clearly the order doesn't matter or it wouldn't much be a game:

What I know is that I have 33% suspicion on
akenbennu: 33
Charmonium: 33
baoytl: 33


DixyCrat: 0%
dustb0wlkid: 28.5%
Krazy4Real: 28.5%
Bubbleawsome: 28.5%
PenguinPower: 28.5%
SSSnail: 28.5%
Storma: 28.5%
JujuFish: 28.5%

NOW, this follows exactly the pattern of a game I have on my shelf called "avalon" + a scanner. Supposing that the distributions are the same that means there are 3 people on team Rebel-Scum. So that leaves 2 out of 7 since I know I'm team Empire. Just imagine your name in place of mine if you know you're no Rubble Scum.

I'm going to send a group of people with the least suspicion, but also in a telling way. I'm going to send people from the bottom of the list so that there is no long-con incentive on the part of the Rebel Scum. This way if there's a fail we can narrow down the Rebels.

Proposed Team:
DixyCrat
Charmonium
Storma
JujuFish


I'm also going to force scan the person with the most suspicion that's coming up as a manager: akenbennu
 
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Dr. Zaus

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Thinking about it, there may be SOME long-con incentive. So we can't just "clear" the group if they don't fail things; however there isn't enough long-con incentive given the relatively minor change in probabilities.
 

akenbennu

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I'm loving this.

Clearly the order doesn't matter or it wouldn't much be a game:

What I know is that I have 33% suspicion on
akenbennu: 33
Charmonium: 33
baoytl: 33


DixyCrat: 0%
dustb0wlkid: 28.5%
Krazy4Real: 28.5%
Bubbleawsome: 28.5%
PenguinPower: 28.5%
SSSnail: 28.5%
Storma: 28.5%
JujuFish: 28.5%

NOW, this follows exactly the pattern of a game I have on my shelf called "avalon" + a scanner. Supposing that the distributions are the same that means there are 3 people on team Rebel-Scum. So that leaves 2 out of 7 since I know I'm team Empire. Just imagine your name in place of mine if you know you're no Rubble Scum.

I'm going to send a group of people with the least suspicion, but also in a telling way. I'm going to send people from the bottom of the list so that there is no long-con incentive on the part of the Rebel Scum. This way if there's a fail we can narrow down the Rebels.

Proposed Team:
DixyCrat
Charmonium
Storma
JujuFish


I'm also going to force scan the person with the most suspicion that's coming up as a manager: akenbennu

I approve this team, and I think your logic is sound Dixy.
 
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