Impending Custody Battle to move out of State

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GiggleGirl

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i live in a small town... when it comes to affording a lawyer, im fucked. basically
i might have to ask my dad for some money if thats what it comes down to

daughters father cannot afford a lawyer either that is for certain....
 

QED

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
i live in a small town... when it comes to affording a lawyer, im fucked. basically
i might have to ask my dad for some money if thats what it comes down to

daughters father cannot afford a lawyer either that is for certain....

Not to be flip, but why don't you actually talk to the father about it like two responsible grown-ups?

If he's not that bad of a father, and you are as noble as you make yourself out to be, then you *should* be able to come to some sort of agreeable terms if you keep the welfare of your daughter in mind.

 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
i live in a small town... when it comes to affording a lawyer, im fucked. basically
i might have to ask my dad for some money if thats what it comes down to

daughters father cannot afford a lawyer either that is for certain....

Not to be flip, but why don't you actually talk to the father about it like two responsible grown-ups?

If he's not that bad of a father, and you are as noble as you make yourself out to be, then you *should* be able to come to some sort of agreeable terms if you keep the welfare of your daughter in mind.

im not trying to sound noble. and these things have been lightly discussed before, with no resolution. you cant talk to this man reasonably. because all he wants to do is argue and call people "dumb idiots" when he gets mad. we arent going to agree because I am adamant about moving and i already know that he is going to be adamant about my taking our daughter. therefore, i have no choice but to go through the courts.

also, while i have never tried to hang him out to dry or screw him over legally, he has tried on many occasions to hurt me legally and emotionally, and hes very vindictive in doing so.

hes not going to be thinking of her welfare, hes going to be concerned only (ok, mostly only) solely what he WANTS rather than the reality of what is BEST.

and to be honest, he is not the sharpest tool in the shed as far as intelligence or raising a child. unfortunate but true.
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
i live in a small town... when it comes to affording a lawyer, im fucked. basically
i might have to ask my dad for some money if thats what it comes down to

daughters father cannot afford a lawyer either that is for certain....


All the more reason for you to have proper legal representation ... go to your father for the money if you have to but if your serious about wanting to move make sure you get it done somhow.

Having an attorney vs your ex representing himself will place you in a position of power & this can only work to your advantage ... it may even convince him that his best move is to play nice & work out a compromise.

 

skywhr

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as long as he's ok with it then there isnt a problem, you will have to come to a custody agreement that will work with long distance exchange.
 

GiggleGirl

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yea i have already thought about what i would do for visitation and i have been looking online for jobs. i am almost certain that i would initially be able to work for my uncle when i moved there so as to at least have something lined up for the judge to see. and then i would just keep looking and get something better when i got there as it is hard to interview from a different state.

i have no qualms with letting him have her for time over the summer or on some holiday breaks. im not one to be a stickler or fickle over who she spends vacations or holidays with so long as we got to share for the most part. i would want her to obviously maintain that relationship with her dad (even though i would worry about how well shes being cared for over a duration of weeks without me, but thats another story...)

i do need to look into my options as far as lawyers go because i do not have money and im not sure my father will be able or willing to lend or give me what i need. we shall see. i do know that he is not going to be ok with this decision for the most part, but you never know. maybe if he really looked at how much he is struggling on his own right now, he will see too that this would be a better situation.

randay, why?
 

Killerme33

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
firstly, i have been documenting his indiscretions since well over a year ago. Even when we were "together" I was keeping a log of lax parenting and mishaps.

Why would you be doing that?
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: Killerme33
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
firstly, i have been documenting his indiscretions since well over a year ago. Even when we were "together" I was keeping a log of lax parenting and mishaps.

Why would you be doing that?

i use the term together loosely. we had been broken up but living under the same roof due to convenience in taking care of our daughter.
from very early on after having had our child, things went downhill and I knew that I would need to get out of the situation. Toward the very bitter end of things, I started keeping a log at the advice of my father, mother, and cousin who divorced her husband and obtained custody of her son, to do so as they knew I would need the information when the tame came for me to be able to move on and get out of a bad situation.
Many people do this, and its not an uncommon practice to be prepared with this information when going in front of a judge.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
im moving out of state. well, im going to try. im going to be taking my daughter with me.
there is currently in effect legal paperwork requiring a court order for either parent (myself or daughters father) to remove her from the state...
does anyone have any knowledge about where to start this process or to whom i go to in order to start the legal process of getting this court order?
i dont have a lot of money, what are my options in terms of getting a lawyer for free or cheap?

has anyone had to file for physical custody before? has anyone moved away from the other parent and taken the child with?

advice or information is appreciated

Find your nearest law school and call the legal clinic there.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
If you can show that you have employment and a better life for the child by being out-of-state, your chances are better.

Otherwise to the courts, it looks like you are just being vindictive.
Going to where family is with no job vs having employment and not family: Employment wins.

Child custody fights (which this will turn into) can be expensive.
Figure at least $100/hr and 20-40 hours of legal work for paperwork, meetings and court hearings if it is contested.



Sound a bit conservative on both the hourly rate and the total number of hours required in my opinion, but its certainly in the ballpark.

OP whatever you do GET YOURSELF A LAWYER or theres a very good chance things won't go your way when this gets ugly. (and it will)

the cheapest custody guy ive had was $160/hr and that went for everything his firm did.

the most expensive was $200/hr but he billed that rate only for *his* time, and lesser rates if his assistants did various things

local legal aid will often help, but they probably wont help if the OP doesnt have good evidence and a good chance to change things, and they wont help if the situation can or will become complicated (trust me, i have a terrifically complicated case and got turned down). yours doesnt sound anywhere near as bad as mine, so it would be worth looking in to.

personally, as a dad who has had to deal with his kids being taken away for something the mother made up, i hope to hell the OP is honest about any neglect that may be taking place or harm that is coming to the kids. my ex basically fabricated a story about me and i didnt even *see* my kids for weeks. after that, despite her initial request being denied, a judge still left the kids with her and never even listened to my side of the story.

and try to weigh the negative effect of moving far away from the father. when i moved, my ex was supposed to be leaving town immediately anyway. its been hell on my kids to have their parents live so far apart, and they still have 3 years of it, at least, to deal with :(

perhaps you should also consider asking for a custody agreement that leaves the kids with you more often and restricts how much time they live with him?you can move to another city and raise them without his problems affecting them so much.

without agreement from him, unless you have pretty strong evidence, this is going to be a legal pain in the ass, even if your state laws favor your situation. running this stuff through the courts is such a bitch. start by calling the nearest Legal Aid office. theyll ask some questions about your finances and the basics of your situation, maybe set up an appointment, and tell you whether or not they may be able to help.