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Ameesh

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: 308nato
I'd buy the guy a beer for that one. Maybe several. Then we could go kick the @ss of every bleeding heart PC liberal we could find.


you mean dawn your white caps and caps so you could go out lynching and then come home and vote for sstrom thurmand and pat buchanan?
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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The moron who wrote this article really needs to learn what "freedom" really means. It includes:

* Being able to choose your OWN religion, without having one forced opon you by the government

* Being able to speak any damn language you feel like, even if it isn't the majority language.

* The ability to expression your opinion about things that you don't like. Whether it be the flag, our laws, our government, or our lifestyle, or anything else for that matter. It even gives morons like this guy the right to author borderline racist religious tripe like this column.

Although I certainly don't agree with most of this person's viewpoints, I do respect his right to express them. THAT, my friend, is what freedom is about.
 

PsychoAndy

Lifer
Dec 31, 2000
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Whatever happened to "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."?

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation,and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture." Apparently, someone doesn't know about things like the 1st amendment or seperation of Church and State
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Kadarin

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Nov 23, 2001
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The United States has a robust culture buoyed by the spirit of generations of immigrants; this is a great strength and in large part makes America what it is. However, I do believe that anyone who chooses to immigrate to the United States does bear certain responsibilities:

* Do it legally. There is a process in place for this which is designed to make it as fair as possible for everyone. I have no sympathy for you if you try to enter the country illegally and die out in the desert (and no, your family should NOT have the right to sue the US for not putting "water stations" out in the desert to facilitate your illegal entry into this country).

* At least make SOME effort to learn the language. If you lack the mental capacity to do so, at least make sure that your kids do. Schools should be taught in English, and English only. Lack of communication and extensive multi-lingual education will possibly lead to ethnic separation, and other countries provide an excellent example that this is a bad thing (read: Yugoslavia)

Edit: WTF is up with the whole "multilingual ballot" thing? How can you make any kind of informed decision upon whom to vote for when you cannot understand the issues? Once again, LEARN ENGLISH.
 

ed21x

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Oct 12, 2001
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i guess it makes sense that newcommers should just enter and expect an entire nation to change in it's behalf just to accomodate him. As an immigrant myself, we had to earn the right to legally enter, and after all that work, contribute productively to society. People who just waltz in here and sit around complaining about why it's so hard piss the fvck out of me.:frown:
 

Pocatello

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Oct 11, 1999
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This guy is a fool. The immigrants long ago (we call them pilgrim?) didn't adapt to the way of the Indians, didn't learn their language. I'm glad they didn't, else we wouldn't have the country we have today. The god paragraph proves how ignorant this guy is, one thing he should learned that's great about this country, the freedom to practice any religion or not too.
 

Hossenfeffer

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Jul 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
There you go again, banging your "Fund A Mental Cases" drum. You're starting to sound like a broken record, Red.
Hey I thought "Fund A Mental Case " was clever and I really enjoy using it. If it bothers you then that makes it even better.

BTW, please go **** yourself, I bet when you get some you aren't such an A*** little b****.
 

Dragnov

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Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
Whatever happened to "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."?

We didn't write that! The French did! ;):D
 

SmackdownHotel

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May 19, 2000
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Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion, so that wanker has no fvcking clue what he's babbling about.


"If God offends you, then I
suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home,
because God is part of our culture."


Hahahaha, funny schit.


However, there are a few things that those who have recently
come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.


The ones born here, as he calls them, are citizens, not immigrants. What a dumbass.

 

308nato

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Feb 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: 308nato
I'd buy the guy a beer for that one. Maybe several. Then we could go kick the @ss of every bleeding heart PC liberal we could find.


you mean dawn your white caps and caps so you could go out lynching and then come home and vote for sstrom thurmand and pat buchanan?


Sure. Why not? Got a problem with that dickhead?







 

BlueApple

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Jul 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: 308nato
Originally posted by: Ameesh
you mean dawn your white caps and caps so you could go out lynching and then come home and vote for sstrom thurmand and pat buchanan?


Sure. Why not? Got a problem with that dickhead?
1) Name calling = childish ways to 'win' argument and try to boost self-esteem
2) Might as well start with Brandon and Anand. Two of the nicest, most honest, hardest working people here at AT. But that doesn't matter, since they aren't white? :disgust:

The moron who wrote this article really needs to learn what "freedom" really means. It includes:

* Being able to choose your OWN religion, without having one forced opon you by the government

* Being able to speak any damn language you feel like, even if it isn't the majority language.

* The ability to expression your opinion about things that you don't like. Whether it be the flag, our laws, our government, or our lifestyle, or anything else for that matter. It even gives morons like this guy the right to author borderline racist religious tripe like this column.

Although I certainly don't agree with most of this person's viewpoints, I do respect his right to express them. THAT, my friend, is what freedom is about.
WELL SAID BRO!!! :)

 

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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Since we are evolving backwards to the "original" state, lets go back to when the Native Americans first lived here before any European even set foot. :Digust;
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
Jun 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: her209
Since we are evolving backwards to the "original" state, lets go back to when the Native Americans first lived here before any European even set foot. :Digust;
:D

And the great nation they built ;)

 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: 308nato
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: 308nato
I'd buy the guy a beer for that one. Maybe several. Then we could go kick the @ss of every bleeding heart PC liberal we could find.


you mean dawn your white caps and caps so you could go out lynching and then come home and vote for sstrom thurmand and pat buchanan?


Sure. Why not? Got a problem with that dickhead?

um, i can't speak for ameesh, but yes, i do have a problem with that.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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one of the things that bothers me most about this stuff is how "immigrant" and "american" seem to be thought of by the author as mutually exclusive.
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Editorials like the one at the beginning of this post remind me of the great wisdom and forethought of our founding fathers, who insisted on
"The seperation of church and state"
Oppressed by the majority in their home countries, largely for their beliefs, these wise leaders made certain that no one in this new land could be oppressed based on beliefs, or lack of them.

 

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: her209
Since we are evolving backwards to the "original" state, lets go back to when the Native Americans first lived here before any European even set foot. :Digust;
:D

And the great nation they built ;)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Indians enslaved a group of people for trade and profit.
:disgust:
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Indians enslaved a group of people for trade and profit.
:disgust:

Some Native American tribes enslaved other ones.

Americans as they are today are for the most part conquerors, not immigrants, at least as far as their forefathers go..
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: her209
Since we are evolving backwards to the "original" state, lets go back to when the Native Americans first lived here before any European even set foot. :Digust;
:D

And the great nation they built ;)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Indians enslaved a group of people for trade and profit.
:disgust:

first off, they were never a complete group... we just lump them together, but it's not like they were all unified... many tribes did have practices enslaving members of other tribes.
 
Oct 16, 1999
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This guy has a valid point even if he doesn't express it very eloquently. America was a melting pot, but now it's turning into a muffin sheet.
 

Martin

Lifer
Jan 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This guy has a valid point even if he doesn't express it very eloquently. America was a melting pot, but now it's turning into a muffin sheet.


Yeah, and what exactly are you gonna do about it? If a person is an american citizen he has the same rights as you, no matter if he/she was born here, or came here.

What do you and guys like the writer want to do? Ban personal freedoms of all minorities?


Yes, america is changing, so is Canada and so is every other dammned country on earth and there's nothing we can do about it. Globalization is more than just free trade. In 100 years, our countries will look nothing like they do now. The only way to stop is to become an isolationist, xenophobic state that has Hitler-like policies.




IMO the writer simply doesn't like minorities and is expressing his dislike by writing an editorial piece so full of bullsh!t that it makes fertilizer smell like flowers .
 

308nato

Platinum Member
Feb 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: BlueApple
Originally posted by: 308nato
Originally posted by: Ameesh
you mean dawn your white caps and caps so you could go out lynching and then come home and vote for sstrom thurmand and pat buchanan?


Sure. Why not? Got a problem with that dickhead?
1) Name calling = childish ways to 'win' argument and try to boost self-esteem
2) Might as well start with Brandon and Anand. Two of the nicest, most honest, hardest working people here at AT. But that doesn't matter, since they aren't white? :disgust:

The moron who wrote this article really needs to learn what "freedom" really means. It includes:

* Being able to choose your OWN religion, without having one forced opon you by the government

* Being able to speak any damn language you feel like, even if it isn't the majority language.

* The ability to expression your opinion about things that you don't like. Whether it be the flag, our laws, our government, or our lifestyle, or anything else for that matter. It even gives morons like this guy the right to author borderline racist religious tripe like this column.

Although I certainly don't agree with most of this person's viewpoints, I do respect his right to express them. THAT, my friend, is what freedom is about.
WELL SAID BRO!!! :)



Well I guess you told me off. Gonna tell your mommy? Don't chide me about name calling dickie. Heres a partial list of names in this thread.....

MORON
STUPID F@CK
IDIOT
IGNORANT DUMB@SS
SWINE
VERMIN
AN@L LITTLE B!TCH

So do you little hand wringing types get an exclusive right to use the names you wish but us big bad mean bast@rds have to play nicey nice? I don't think so. The aforementioned d!ckhead gets to call me a Klansman and I can't return fire. You can shove your white comment as far up your little bird rump as you can as well. As far as arguments and winning, I don't remember arguing with anyone. I don't get a woodie over the forum games like some do. You highbrow bleeding hearts kill me. Anyone who doesn't think your way is a racist, lynching Klansman. You can kiss my white Norwegian @ss.