"immigrants don't have to pay taxes"

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Yeah, if you think for one second that the IRS would give anybody a grace period on income tax, you have no clue. They are going to squeeze every red cent they can from anyone they can track. Legal immigrants included.

Now illegal aliens don't pay income tax if they're working off the books. They also probably won't get minimum wage either. They still have to pay sales tax when they buy shit though. And tax when they register their cars. So they're still chipping in.

So if you were on fire and I had a fire extinguisher, would you want me to put the flames out some or would you want me to put them out totally?

They're only chipping in when and where they can't get around it. Don't be such an apologist for cheating, mooching scumbags. Sorry, chipping in doesn't cut it. You don't get a get out of jail free card for "only breaking the law some."

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: wiredspider
illegal immigrants probably don't pay taxes...

I realize this. I'm talking about the myth that they don't have to pay federal taxes for the first X number of years.

I don't KNOW that it's true, but back in the 70's when they first started bringing in Vietnamese refugees, that was one of the rumors going around.

No federal taxes for 5(?) years
No hunting/fishing license required for 5(?) years
No hunting/fishing limits for same period
"Free" state/federal welfare and food stamps with on limit per household

Were any of those true? I don't know, but it was common "knowledge" at the time.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Foreigners have some tax breaks when it comes to income tax - they are being expected to pay some type of the income tax on what they earn back to their home government.

There may have been laws to allow legal immigrants a grace period - that if it did exist, no longer is available.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: boomerang
Legal immigrants did not have to pay federal income tax for the first 7 years they were here. I've worked with several people over the years that were in that situation. One was from Korea and the other from Hungary. They were crying like babies when the clock ran out. Didn't feel it was right or fair, etc.

I don't know when the policy was implemented, or if or when it was rescinded. It may very well be still in force.

This was for legal immigrants. The idea behind it was to give them a boost in the new land they lived in.

http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/immigrants.asp

I'll accept that I was wrong. This was back in the early eighties. I worked closely with the guy from Hungary. He may have just been blowing smoke up our asses. He sounded very sincere when he was bellyaching about income tax kicking in. Whatever.

It was never true. My family came here in lat 70's and had to pay taxes from day 1.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: wiredspider
illegal immigrants probably don't pay taxes...

I realize this. I'm talking about the myth that they don't have to pay federal taxes for the first X number of years.

I don't KNOW that it's true, but back in the 70's when they first started bringing in Vietnamese refugees, that was one of the rumors going around.

No federal taxes for 5(?) years
No hunting/fishing license required for 5(?) years
No hunting/fishing limits for same period
"Free" state/federal welfare and food stamps with on limit per household

Were any of those true? I don't know, but it was common "knowledge" at the time.

My family was one of those refugees from that era.

The last item on the list was because refugees that came over were basically without anything so the government assisted them as they do any poor person here. Not sure if that was the case for all nationalities since Vietnamese refugees came over under different circumstances.

The rest is complete and utter baloney.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Svnla
LOL @ some of the replies... "heard" .."rumor"..."a friend of a friend".."so and so".. Any of you ever have first hand experience of anything before you open your mouth? :disgust:

As a first generation legal immigrant myself, I did and do have to pay ALL taxes as any Americans.

/thread

Natural born citizens would not have any first hand experience. So, it stands to reason that all we would have to offer would be what we'd heard. Get off your high horse.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: wiredspider
illegal immigrants probably don't pay taxes...

I realize this. I'm talking about the myth that they don't have to pay federal taxes for the first X number of years.

I don't KNOW that it's true, but back in the 70's when they first started bringing in Vietnamese refugees, that was one of the rumors going around.

No federal taxes for 5(?) years
No hunting/fishing license required for 5(?) years
No hunting/fishing limits for same period
"Free" state/federal welfare and food stamps with on limit per household

Were any of those true? I don't know, but it was common "knowledge" at the time.

Yeah, but you see, we're just a couple of old fucks who don't know what we're talking about.

My understanding is the same as yours, I've done a little research to try and prove it out and am coming up empty handed. I've devoted all the time to it I'm going to. If it was true in the past, it looks as though it's changed.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Svnla
LOL @ some of the replies... "heard" .."rumor"..."a friend of a friend".."so and so".. Any of you ever have first hand experience of anything before you open your mouth? :disgust:

As a first generation legal immigrant myself, I did and do have to pay ALL taxes as any Americans.

/thread

Natural born citizens would not have any first hand experience. So, it stands to reason that all we would have to offer would be what we'd heard. Get off your high horse.

See the bolded part? That is all you've got, then DO NOT repeat those stupid rumors/stereotypes.

As several immigrants already posted in this thread, it is NOT true. I am more than welcome that you and your kind to prove me otherwise. Please cite any section of the IRS about permanant LEGAL immigrants (not H1/Student Visa/Vistors/Temporary workers/etc.) don't have to pay taxes.

...well....still waiting.

Edit: I do not want to come across as arrogant or obnoxious but it is tick me off big time whenever some idiots (see the guy in the OP post) say "well, those legal immigrants, especially from Asia, they only make it that big and that soon in America ONLY because they did NOT have to pay any taxes and we have to help them out big time". We busted our tail off for years to get where we are.

 

[hanoverphist]

i knew a guy that had 6 kids with 5 different women. he also maintained his official residence in a 180 a month beat up trailer in the ghettoest ghetto area there was in south phx. he didnt actually live there, he lived with his girlfriend in paradise valley. she made bank, he got paid 45k a year under the table and collected benefits for his 6 kids and himself. he was a scammer to the max, and i giggled much when he was busted from an anon tip. did jail time and owed a ton in fines. no more escalade for him hehe.

 

[her209]

PAYROLL TAXES!!!

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: wiredspider
illegal immigrants probably don't pay taxes...

I realize this. I'm talking about the myth that they don't have to pay federal taxes for the first X number of years.

My GF has her green card and she absolutely pays taxes on her income (when she can find a job, that is ).

The only difference b/w the US and back home is that here she pays ~30-32% of her income in taxes with no health care. back home it's 33% of her taxes and all health care covered, no question.

curious, no?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: wiredspider
illegal immigrants probably don't pay taxes...

I realize this. I'm talking about the myth that they don't have to pay federal taxes for the first X number of years.

I never heard this either, and I don't see why it would really matter. What matters is the millions of illegals NOT being taxed on anything.

again, sales tax.

booze tax

tobacco tax

etc.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: MrYogi
Bull ShIt.

Most of the illegal immigrants do not pay taxes.

Legal immigrants like people who are on H-1B, J1 visas, or on Green Card have to pay Federal and State taxes.

They also pay Social Security and Medicare.

And? They reap the benefit of FICA, why shouldn't they pay?

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: wiredspider
illegal immigrants probably don't pay taxes...

I realize this. I'm talking about the myth that they don't have to pay federal taxes for the first X number of years.

I never heard this either, and I don't see why it would really matter. What matters is the millions of illegals NOT being taxed on anything.

again, sales tax.

booze tax

tobacco tax

etc.

You know what he means, hair splitter.

 

[Zedtom]

The word immigrant seems to conjure up an image of a Spanish speaking person from south of the United States border. There are a huge number of them here that pay taxes in some form, (property, sales, income, etc.) but also there are many working under aliases and off the books.

There is an overlooked group of immigrants that are really ripping the taxpayers off. They are the elderly poor, mostly from Eastern Europe and Russia. Many come here to visit relatives and stay. The fear of being deported is strong, so most go through the process of becoming legal residents. This presents a problem for social security, medicare, and medicaid. They are destitute and have needs that can only be serviced by the taxpayers who are taking care of people who never pitched in when they were younger.

 

[Circlenaut]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Legal immigrants did not have to pay federal income tax for the first 7 years they were here. I've worked with several people over the years that were in that situation. One was from Korea and the other from Hungary. They were crying like babies when the clock ran out. Didn't feel it was right or fair, etc.

I don't know when the policy was implemented, or if or when it was rescinded. It may very well be still in force.

This was for legal immigrants. The idea behind it was to give them a boost in the new land they lived in.

Wait WHAT!!? I've been paying taxes all these years for nothing? Please point me to the source of this!

Never Mind, snopes

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Svnla
LOL @ some of the replies... "heard" .."rumor"..."a friend of a friend".."so and so".. Any of you ever have first hand experience of anything before you open your mouth? :disgust:

As a first generation legal immigrant myself, I did and do have to pay ALL taxes as any Americans.

/thread

Natural born citizens would not have any first hand experience. So, it stands to reason that all we would have to offer would be what we'd heard. Get off your high horse.

See the bolded part? That is all you've got, then DO NOT repeat those stupid rumors/stereotypes.

As several immigrants already posted in this thread, it is NOT true. I am more than welcome that you and your kind to prove me otherwise. Please cite any section of the IRS about permanant LEGAL immigrants (not H1/Student Visa/Vistors/Temporary workers/etc.) don't have to pay taxes.

...well....still waiting.

Edit: I do not want to come across as arrogant or obnoxious but it is tick me off big time whenever some idiots (see the guy in the OP post) say "well, those legal immigrants, especially from Asia, they only make it that big and that soon in America ONLY because they did NOT have to pay any taxes and we have to help them out big time". We busted our tail off for years to get where we are.

Too late. You've already come off as arrogant and obnoxious. Your reading comprehension could use some help too. The OP is on your side. I'm not taking sides at all, just relating my experiences.

You've got a real big chip on your shoulder. It's not very attractive.

You lost me when you used the words "your kind". Whatever, I'm done with you.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

wow, i'm always amazed at how many stupid people there are on atot.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

i hate immigrants.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Too late. You've already come off as arrogant and obnoxious. Your reading comprehension could use some help too. The OP is on your side. I'm not taking sides at all, just relating my experiences.

You've got a real big chip on your shoulder. It's not very attractive.

You lost me when you used the words "your kind". Whatever, I'm done with you.

Whateve rocks your boat.

I am still waiting for some information from you AND YOUR KIND (the kind that have zero experience or any true knowledge with legal immigrants) besides "we heard" to show me where legal immigrants don't have to pay taxes. What was your experience with legal immigrants beside "we heard" or "know so and so who was an immigrant"?

Well?? Yup, just what I thought.

BTW, you AND YOUR KIND need to read my post again. I did not bash the OP. I bashed the idiot(s) and HIS KIND that spread rumors and innuendoes such as "we heard" but zero/nada/zilch solid evidences/links/sources to support their statements.

Still waiting for evidences from the IRS website to support the argument that legal immigrants don't have to pay taxes. Please pwzned me, please ..pretty please do so I can go to the IRS and get back all the taxes that I paid for the last 20 years or so.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Svnla
LOL @ some of the replies... "heard" .."rumor"..."a friend of a friend".."so and so".. Any of you ever have first hand experience of anything before you open your mouth? :disgust:

As a first generation legal immigrant myself, I did and do have to pay ALL taxes as any Americans.

/thread

Natural born citizens would not have any first hand experience. So, it stands to reason that all we would have to offer would be what we'd heard. Get off your high horse.

See the bolded part? That is all you've got, then DO NOT repeat those stupid rumors/stereotypes.

As several immigrants already posted in this thread, it is NOT true. I am more than welcome that you and your kind to prove me otherwise. Please cite any section of the IRS about permanant LEGAL immigrants (not H1/Student Visa/Vistors/Temporary workers/etc.) don't have to pay taxes.

...well....still waiting.

Edit: I do not want to come across as arrogant or obnoxious but it is tick me off big time whenever some idiots (see the guy in the OP post) say "well, those legal immigrants, especially from Asia, they only make it that big and that soon in America ONLY because they did NOT have to pay any taxes and we have to help them out big time". We busted our tail off for years to get where we are.

Too late. You've already come off as arrogant and obnoxious. Your reading comprehension could use some help too. The OP is on your side. I'm not taking sides at all, just relating my experiences.

You've got a real big chip on your shoulder. It's not very attractive.

You lost me when you used the words "your kind". Whatever, I'm done with you.

I get mad and this myth doesn't apply to. I'd be super pissed if people used this as a rumor to discriminate against me even though its not true.

There is way too much ignorance fueled hate out there.

 

[oogabooga]

That'd have been nice for my parents, but they paid the same taxes everyone else did. Of course they were poor so it didn't end up being a ton I guess..

 

[AAjax]

Well since their wages are predominantly under the table (you are talking about illegal immigrants right?) They do not pay taxes.


Ok read the thread and until the US is their home (I think 5 years?) they don't pay federal income tax. (legal immigrants)

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
The word immigrant seems to conjure up an image of a Spanish speaking person from south of the United States border. There are a huge number of them here that pay taxes in some form, (property, sales, income, etc.) but also there are many working under aliases and off the books.

There is an overlooked group of immigrants that are really ripping the taxpayers off. They are the elderly poor, mostly from Eastern Europe and Russia. Many come here to visit relatives and stay. The fear of being deported is strong, so most go through the process of becoming legal residents. This presents a problem for social security, medicare, and medicaid. They are destitute and have needs that can only be serviced by the taxpayers who are taking care of people who never pitched in when they were younger.

The bolded portion pisses me off. I was always under the impression that immigrants were banned from collecting government services...that they were required to NOT be a burden on the US, that if anything, their sponsor (if they have one) assumed financial responsibility for them.

If they don't pay, they shouldn't collect.

The USA is NOT the world's welfare agency...or at least it SHOULDN'T be such.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i hate immigrants.

Ah how refreshing. Finally somebody who actually says what stupid people are thinking.