Imagine still being a Trump supporter?

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

"Eisenhower also gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system, the first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn network, as a necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe during World War II."

Interstate Highway System - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And who was it that pushed development of the Autobahn?

 

[fskimospy]

"Eisenhower also gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system, the first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn network, as a necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe during World War II."

Interstate Highway System - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And who was it that pushed development of the Autobahn?

Right.

What was Eisenhower’s infrastructure used for and what was Hitler’s infrastructure used for? Once you figure that out you’ll know why one was good and one was bad.

 

[fskimospy]

I mean does anyone really want to argue that the railheads the Nazis built to send people to the gas chambers were good because they were infrastructure?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The goal of both was to move troops and equipment fast and efficiently.

 

[fskimospy]

The goal of both was to move troops and equipment fast and efficiently.

So fill out this questionnaire:

The goal of Eisenhower to move troops and equipment fast and efficiently was to accomplish ___________________

The goal of Hitler to move troops and equipment fast and efficiently was to accomplish ____________________

Then explain why one is meaningful to the other. As a somewhat relevant example Zyklon B was developed as a pesticide so presumably a bunch of farmers used it. Would you draw a distinction between their use of a neutral product and say, someone else’s?

 

[fskimospy]

I am a big fan of building more housing. Maybe I should just be happy about all the housing Hitler built at Auschwitz.

 

[rommelrommel]

I don't even like to link it but:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ough-electoral-college-votes-switch-election/

On November 10, 2020, we reported that there were still a number of avenues for President Trump to win the 2020 Election.

We knew if President Trump were to be awarded the electoral college votes for Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania, that would easily be enough for the win.

The President at that time, with the states of Wisconsin (10), Michigan (16), Pennsylvania (20), Georgia (16), Arizona (11), and Nevada (6), still under review or counting, was leading Joe Biden with 232 electoral college votes to Biden’s 226. We knew based on these numbers that President Trump had more avenues to win the election than Biden did. We also knew that the only way these states could go to Biden was with massive fraud.

With President Trump’s 232 electoral college votes, if you add Pennsylvania (20), Georgia (16), and Arizona (11), three states currently performing or requesting audits on a portion of their state’s results, President Trump wins with 279 votes (270 are needed to win).

This is why the corrupt Democrats are screaming and freaking out. With these three states, Trump wins the electoral college, and the Democrats, the Media, Social Media, and RINOs are proven liars once again.


THIS IS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE

 

[rommelrommel]

The goal of both was to move troops and equipment fast and efficiently.

Are you making a point beyond "he made the trains run on time" here?

 

[VRAMdemon]

I don’t think that there was anything particularly special about Trump that made the personality cult. As I see it, there are three main keys to Trumps success.

1. First, get the attention of the media
2. Shamelessly pander to the base,
3. Don’ let anything else (the truth, ethics, consequences, policy goals, legality etc.) get in the way of parts one and two.

This is a formula that any of todays Republicans could follow. The only reason he succeeded so well is that up until then, the conventional wisdom was that making an asshole of yourself to get attention, telling obvious lies, and having no realistic policies would doom your candidacy. Now that that has been proven false its open to anyone.

The only thing standing in the way of someone following the above formula is that the spot of media pandering asshole is already filled so its hard for others to get the same attention, and that once he does fall, there will be a crab bucket fight over who gets to take his place.

 

[fskimospy]

I don’t think that there was anything particularly special about Trump that made the personality cult. As I see it, there are three main keys to Trumps success.

1. First, get the attention of the media
2. Shamelessly pander to the base,
3. Don’ let anything else (the truth, ethics, consequences, policy goals, legality etc.) get in the way of parts one and two.

This is a formula that any of todays Republicans could follow. The only reason he succeeded so well is that up until then, the conventional wisdom was that making an asshole of yourself to get attention, telling obvious lies, and having no realistic policies would doom your candidacy. Now that that has been proven false its open to anyone.

The only thing standing in the way of someone following the above formula is that the spot of media pandering asshole is already filled so its hard for others to get the same attention, and that once he does fall, there will be a crab bucket fight over who gets to take his place.

An important thing to remember though is that this formula really didn't work very well! Yes he won in 2016 against a historically unpopular opponent, but he lost every other election he tried to use the above formula in, and in so doing lost control of Congress as well.

 

[gothuevos]

An important thing to remember though is that this formula really didn't work very well! Yes he won in 2016 against a historically unpopular opponent, but he lost every other election he tried to use the above formula in, and in so doing lost control of Congress as well.

Very true, but with many GOP state legislatures now able to overturn election results on a whim, it doesn't matter anymore. He could lose a state by 20 points and they will cry fraud and overturn it.

Absolutely at least one state will do this in 2024, if not more than one. Our system of checks and balances barely made it out of 2020...how do you think this will fare? Total collapse?

 

[amenx]

I am a big fan of building more housing. Maybe I should just be happy about all the housing Hitler built at Auschwitz.

Hitler didnt build Auschwitz housing, Himmler did. (what Trump might say).

 

[fskimospy]

Very true, but with many GOP state legislatures now able to overturn election results on a whim, it doesn't matter anymore. He could lose a state by 20 points and they will cry fraud and overturn it.

Absolutely at least one state will do this in 2024, if not more than one. Our system of checks and balances barely made it out of 2020...how do you think this will fare? Total collapse?

I doubt they would do that if he lost by 20, but I share your concern that they will attempt to subvert a close election.

If they are stealing the election anyway though, his strategy doesn’t really matter.

 

[VRAMdemon]

An important thing to remember though is that this formula really didn't work very well! Yes he won in 2016 against a historically unpopular opponent, but he lost every other election he tried to use the above formula in, and in so doing lost control of Congress as well.

I agree ... But Republicans still control most state legislatures - which leads to control of a disproportionate number of House seats. An unbalanced number of conservative judges, thanks to McConnell/Trump. The filibuster rule in the Senate. The Electoral College, giving undue weight to small (conservative) states. Progress to overcome these obstacles will be glacial, but relentless. But it hasn't happened yet. Biden won in 2020 by about 7 million votes, but he really only won by <200k votes in the right states. There will come a time when house districts are decided impartially. There will come a time when the Senate has a solid Democratic majority, and doesn’t depend on politicians like Joe "bipartisan or bust" Manchin to get anything done. I don't think this will happen soon though . What’s happening is that the mechanisms within our political system are being exploited.. Conservatives have been losing ground in terms of popular vote over the last 20 years, and yet they have disproportionate power thanks to gerrymandering.

 

[zzyzxroad]

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Is that spray tan color matched to flamin hot cheetos?

 

[MrSquished]

Is there any website taking bets on whether American democracy will survive 2024?

I'm curious as to what they have the odds at right now.

 

[woolfe9998]

"Eisenhower also gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system, the first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn network, as a necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe during World War II."

Interstate Highway System - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And who was it that pushed development of the Autobahn?

Yeah, in Hitler's final days, he ordered Albert Speer to destroy Germany's infrastructure so the allies could not make use of it. Speer did not comply. Hitler's narcissism was so extreme that he was content to leave Germany in a state of wreckage since he knew he would soon be dead.

Uh, what exact point are you trying to make here?

 

[Pohemi]

I wonder how many of you know what the basis for the U.S. Interstate Highway system was.

Do you know, or don't you?

And who was it that pushed development of the Autobahn?

Are you making a point beyond "he made the trains run on time" here?

Uh, what exact point are you trying to make here?

He's forgotten his meds again and is rambling on some unrelated tangent. Relevant point will not be found.

Lost_in_the_Hippocampus is more like it... navigation needs recalibration.

 

[brandonbull]

I mean how fucking terrible is that?

All future wanna-be Nazi's just really waiting and hoping for their future Hitler to truly arise and unleash their passion and hate.

Probably better than a Biden/Harris supporter. One day Libtards will start charging Trump rent for him living in their heads. Please don't ask Biden a question while he is paying for some pie or he will get confused and refer to his flash cards. LOL!!

 

[compcons]

Probably better than a Biden/Harris supporter. One day Libtards will start charging Trump rent for him living in their heads. Please don't ask Biden a question while he is paying for some pie or he will get confused and refer to his flash cards. LOL!!

"Person, woman, man, camera, TV."

But good try.

 

[Pohemi]

Please don't ask Biden a question while he is paying for some pie or he will get confused and refer to his flash cards. LOL!!

herpderp...such a clever boy your mother must think you are. Polly want a cracker, clown?

Gonna be a long few years for you if that's the best you can come up with.

 

[brycejones]

herpderp...such a clever boy your mother must think you are. Polly want a cracker, clown?

Gonna be a long few years for you if that's the best you can come up with.

Has Brandonbull ever done any better? He is a forum advert for why your kids should never go to USF.

 

[kage69]

Something like 7 million republicans quit their affiliation after January 6th. That was the group that recognized this is now not about just divisive politics anymore, that outright insurrection was where they got off that (short) bus.

Show me a Trump supporter today and I'll show you a traitor in a cult, the most dangerous enemy to American democracy to date IMO. Hard to feel sad the delta variant will continue to thin them out.

 

[cytg111]

Something like 7 million republicans quit their affiliation after January 6th. That was the group that recognized this is now not about just divisive politics anymore, that outright insurrection was where they got off that (short) bus.

Show me a Trump supporter today and I'll show you a traitor in a cult, the most dangerous enemy to American democracy to date IMO. Hard to feel sad the delta variant will continue to thin them out.

Maybe, between them, they will come up with an "Alpha and Omega" variant to really speed things up.

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away​

 

[Fenixgoon]

Something like 7 million republicans quit their affiliation after January 6th. That was the group that recognized this is now not about just divisive politics anymore, that outright insurrection was where they got off that (short) bus.

Show me a Trump supporter today and I'll show you a traitor in a cult, the most dangerous enemy to American democracy to date IMO. Hard to feel sad the delta variant will continue to thin them out.

I'll believe it when I see an overwhelming rejection of the GQP in 2022 and 2024