Imagine if there are no lawyers, imagine if you can...

[SSSnail]

Imagine all the people, living life in peace.

You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. :awe:


Another 'what if' moment brought to you by yours truly.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

If there were no lawyers then someone would just read the laws and charge people for the knowledge that they now posses.... and then we'd have lawyers again.

 

[blackdogdeek]

If there were no lawyers then someone would just read the laws and charge people for the knowledge that they now posses.... and then we'd have lawyers again.

but then we'd need a governing body to give accreditation only to people who actually qualify to give legal advice so that people couldn't just claim to know the law and then charge people for advice.

 

[SSSnail]

If there were no lawyers then someone would just read the laws and charge people for the knowledge that they now posses.... and then we'd have lawyers again.

That's fine. We'll just have public defenders and prosecutors.

 

[ViviTheMage]

That's fine. We'll just have public defenders and prosecutors.

I would expect a few bucks in the face of a prosecutor could get you off real quick then.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I would expect a few bucks in the face of a prosecutor could get you off real quick then.

that way, even the middle class could be above the law, not just the rich, like today?

 

[SearchMaster]

Remember this thread if you ever get accused of a crime.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

that way, even the middle class could be above the law, not just the rich, like today?

If we can socialize medical care why can't we socialize the essential service of law?

 

[CPA]

Hate that song.

 

[CPA]

That's fine. We'll just have public defenders and prosecutors.

You think that would be fine? You ever been defended by a Public Defender?

 

[PottedMeat]

<shudder>

 

[etrigan420]

Imagine all the people, living life in peace.

You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. :awe:


Another 'what if' moment brought to you by yours truly.

Meh, they serve their purpose...

I think the concept of "jury of your peers" needs more work than the concept of lawyers.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Meh, they serve their purpose...

I think the concept of "jury of your peers" needs more work than the concept of lawyers.

concept of a jury is flawed.

 

[Jeff7]

<shudder>

That scene was my first thought as well.

 

[BladeVenom]

Remember this thread if you ever get accused of a crime.

Remember this thread if you are ever charged with a crime, and are innocent, but the prosecutors record is more important to him than destroying someone's life.

 

[lxskllr]

Lawyers are government sanctioned con artists. They make a living convincing people the color blue is really red :^S

 

[darom]

What I don't understand is why lawyers are considered an 'elite' group of professionals who are entitled to charging their customers hundreds dollars per hour. Their guild has perfected this to an anal detail - each minute costs you money.

The education aspect is not an issue - 4 years of law school do not equate, for example, to the medical school one has to undertake. I am talking about fair payment for the amount of knowledge and money invested.

The whole concept of class action law suits is revolting when a law firm picks up millions when the injured parties are only getting pennies. John Grisham's book "The King of Torts" is an excellent example of this shitty business.

I will paraphrase the OP's topic, and suggest, let's keep lawyers but apply different rules on how much they can charge us. Yes, I do need a government involvement here otherwise nothing will change.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Where do judges come from them? No lawyers no constitution. Would you like that?

 

[SSSnail]

Where do judges come from them? No lawyers no constitution. Would you like that?

Laws were prescribed by government, I'm sure they can manage it. Everything from interpreting it to enforcing it.

 

[BurnItDwn]

If we can socialize medical care why can't we socialize the essential service of law?

We absolutely should! that would do a lot to help the little guys to fight back against the big guys every time they get stepped on!

 

[Dr. Zaus]

What I don't understand is why lawyers are considered an 'elite' group of professionals who are entitled to charging their customers hundreds dollars per hour. Their guild has perfected this to an anal detail - each minute costs you money.

The education aspect is not an issue - 4 years of law school do not equate, for example, to the medical school one has to undertake. I am talking about fair payment for the amount of knowledge and money invested.

The whole concept of class action law suits is revolting when a law firm picks up millions when the injured parties are only getting pennies. John Grisham's book "The King of Torts" is an excellent example of this shitty business.

I will paraphrase the OP's topic, and suggest, let's keep lawyers but apply different rules on how much they can charge us. Yes, I do need a government involvement here otherwise nothing will change.

It will probably thrill you to know, then, that lawyers only get paid well if they are exceptional: otherwise they tend to be out of the profession of law very quickly. Many people have 120k in student loan debt and a no-name law-degree (which is all but 5% of them) and didn't graduate in the top 5% of their class and are getting paid 50k a year to be ADA in some backwater burg.

You could make that as a teacher and not be 120k in debt and get summers off.

 

[Dirigible]

Lawyers are awesome. OP should be banned for proposing such a horrible idea.

 

[IronWing]

Laws were prescribed by government, I'm sure they can manage it. Everything from interpreting it to enforcing it.

Welcome to Saudi Arabia. Do you prefer the axe or the sword?



If you love your country, thank a soldier. If you love your freedoms, thank a lawyer.

 

[lxskllr]

It will probably thrill you to know, then, that lawyers only get paid well if they are exceptional: otherwise they tend to be out of the profession of law very quickly. Many people have 120k in student loan debt and a no-name law-degree (which is all but 5% of them) and didn't graduate in the top 5% of their class and are getting paid 50k a year to be ADA in some backwater burg.

You could make that as a teacher and not be 120k in debt and get summers off.

I feel privileged then to live near so many exceptional lawyers. I could line them up from town(2 miles away), and walk on their backs to my house without touching the ground. I sure would like to try that...

 

[PatrickBateman]

mine kept me out of jail...but I see what your saying