I'm voting republican

nageov3t

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demonizing 51% of america is fun... shouldn't you liberals be too busy with your gay orgies and drive-through government subsidized 3rd term abortions to make web sites? :p
 

bamacre

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Funny.

Mainly because much of that could easily be describing Democrats as well.
 

Capitalizt

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Originally posted by: loki8481
demonizing 51% of america is fun... shouldn't you liberals be too busy with your gay orgies and drive-through government subsidized 3rd term abortions to make web sites? :p

lol, try 28% of Americans :D

Dubya has destroyed the republican party.
 

tweaker2

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I like how the video uses rovian tactics against the very folks that originated it and turned into a form of art.

"There is iron in those words"..... a bastardized version of a script line from Josey Wales seems apropos for the content of the video.

Worshipping wanna-be dictators with visions of granduer.......no thank you.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: loki8481
demonizing 51% of america is fun... shouldn't you liberals be too busy with your gay orgies and drive-through government subsidized 3rd term abortions to make web sites? :p

It's only demonizing when it's false! :p

Yea Yea Yea It's douchey and all but it's true...
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Tab

It's only demonizing when it's false! :p

Yea Yea Yea It's douchey and all but it's true...

Which elevates it to satire. Definitely worthy of a play on the Daily Show. :thumbsup:
 

Deudalus

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Don't you have an election to lose?

If this wasn't a step up from the normal P&N threads I'd probably be more inclined to find it amusing though.

 

bamacre

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The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.
 

SAWYER

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Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

*applauds*

Party fanboys on either side are so blind
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

< cough > War in Iraq based on lies.

< cough > 4,096 American troops DEAD as of 6/12/2008!
rose.gif


< cough > Tens of thousands of American troops wounded, scarred and disabled for life. :(

< cough > TRILLIONS of dollars of current and future debt.

< cough > Torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :shocked:

< cough > Gutting of Constitutional rights of American citizens.

< cough > War profiteering by administration contributors and business associates.

< cough > Selective release of classified information for political gain.

< cough > Disclosure of identity of a covert CIA operative.

These are the crimes of the administration of only ONE party. :thumbsdown: :|
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

< cough > War in Iraq based on lies.

< cough > 4,096 American troops DEAD as of 6/12/2008!
rose.gif


< cough > Tens of thousands of American troops wounded, scarred and disabled for life. :(

< cough > TRILLIONS of dollars of current and future debt.

< cough > Torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :shocked:

< cough > Gutting of Constitutional rights of American citizens.

< cough > War profiteering by administration contributors and business associates.

< cough > Selective release of classified information for political gain.

< cough > Disclosure of identity of a covert CIA operative.

These are the crimes of the administration of only ONE party. :thumbsdown: :|

And they had PLENTY of support for all of it with the OTHER party. :thumbsdown:

It's the "my party is ok because the other one is worse" mentality that has destroyed this country. If only people would as easily find fault with their own party, this country would be much better off.
 

ranmaniac

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

< cough > War in Iraq based on lies.

< cough > 4,096 American troops DEAD as of 6/12/2008!
rose.gif


< cough > Tens of thousands of American troops wounded, scarred and disabled for life. :(

< cough > TRILLIONS of dollars of current and future debt.

< cough > Torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :shocked:

< cough > Gutting of Constitutional rights of American citizens.

< cough > War profiteering by administration contributors and business associates.

< cough > Selective release of classified information for political gain.

< cough > Disclosure of identity of a covert CIA operative.

These are the crimes of the administration of only ONE party. :thumbsdown: :|

And majority of the Democrats haven't done anything to try to stop it, and the Democratic leadership are too scared, or too paid off, to impeach Bush/Cheney.


 

JohnnyGage

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

< cough > War in Iraq based on lies.

< cough > 4,096 American troops DEAD as of 6/12/2008!
rose.gif


< cough > Tens of thousands of American troops wounded, scarred and disabled for life. :(

< cough > TRILLIONS of dollars of current and future debt.

< cough > Torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :shocked:

< cough > Gutting of Constitutional rights of American citizens.

< cough > War profiteering by administration contributors and business associates.

< cough > Selective release of classified information for political gain.

< cough > Disclosure of identity of a covert CIA operative.

These are the crimes of the administration of only ONE party. :thumbsdown: :|

Which one?
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

Republicans = Started the war and continue to support the war.
Democrats = Joined on the bandwagon (Obama and several others didn't) and now don't support the war.

Am I wrong?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

Republicans = Started the war and continue to support the war.
Democrats = Joined on the bandwagon (Obama and several others didn't) and now don't support the war.

Am I wrong?

except that with control of both houses of congress, the democrats have made no moves to end the war or hold GWB accountable.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

Republicans = Started the war and continue to support the war.
Democrats = Joined on the bandwagon (Obama and several others didn't) and now don't support the war.

Am I wrong?

No, you're really not. But you simply cannot put all the blame on the Republicans. Clinton pretty much laid the groundwork, he demonized Iraq, bombed Iraq, sanctioned Iraq, and made it US policy the removal of Saddam from power in Iraq. Now, was he stupid enough to invade? No. But look at what Obama will do to Iran. He will continue to demonize Iran, and will further sanctions against Iran.

Will he invade Iran? No, but what he'll do is continue a failed, fear-mongering foreign policy against a nation, like Iraq, that is nowhere near a threat to the USA. And as long as Americans are led to believe the false notion that they are a threat to us, then all it takes is another Neo-conservative administration and "another Perl Harbor" and we're at war again.

Both parties are following the exact same failed, dangerous, and expensive foreign policy, arguing only over the details.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

< cough > War in Iraq based on lies.

< cough > 4,096 American troops DEAD as of 6/12/2008!
rose.gif


< cough > Tens of thousands of American troops wounded, scarred and disabled for life. :(

< cough > TRILLIONS of dollars of current and future debt.

< cough > Torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity. :shocked:

< cough > Gutting of Constitutional rights of American citizens.

< cough > War profiteering by administration contributors and business associates.

< cough > Selective release of classified information for political gain.

< cough > Disclosure of identity of a covert CIA operative.

These are the crimes of the administration of only ONE party. :thumbsdown: :|
Here's some NyQuil for that whooping cough. BTW, the democratic congress could have done something about any of those items in the past 1.5 years. I'm with bamacre on this one, both parties are to blame (obviously the GOP moreso).

 
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Originally posted by: loki8481
except that with control of both houses of congress, the democrats have made no moves to end the war or hold GWB accountable.

They don't have veto-proof control over the House and Senate and they don't have enough of a majority in the Senate to block a filibuster.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: loki8481
except that with control of both houses of congress, the democrats have made no moves to end the war or hold GWB accountable.

They don't have veto-proof control over the House and Senate and they don't have enough of a majority in the Senate to block a filibuster.

couldn't they just... not finance the war? seems like you wouldn't need a veto-proof majority to not do something.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: loki8481
except that with control of both houses of congress, the democrats have made no moves to end the war or hold GWB accountable.

They don't have veto-proof control over the House and Senate and they don't have enough of a majority in the Senate to block a filibuster.

couldn't they just... not finance the war? seems like you wouldn't need a veto-proof majority to not do something.
IIRC, they rubber-stamped that shiny new bill to further finance the war. So yes, the Dem's are just as much to blame.

 

Tab

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: bamacre
The real joke is the notion that the Democrats are much better. Sure it seems so after 7+ years of Bush/Cheney, but both parties are leading us straight into a fiscal brick wall, and both continue a failed foreign policy which causes the US to be looked upon as a hypocritical tyrant instead of an example of a prosperous, peaceful democracy.

Republicans = Started the war and continue to support the war.
Democrats = Joined on the bandwagon (Obama and several others didn't) and now don't support the war.

Am I wrong?

No, you're really not. But you simply cannot put all the blame on the Republicans. Clinton pretty much laid the groundwork, he demonized Iraq, bombed Iraq, sanctioned Iraq, and made it US policy the removal of Saddam from power in Iraq. Now, was he stupid enough to invade? No. But look at what Obama will do to Iran. He will continue to demonize Iran, and will further sanctions against Iran.

Will he invade Iran? No, but what he'll do is continue a failed, fear-mongering foreign policy against a nation, like Iraq, that is nowhere near a threat to the USA. And as long as Americans are led to believe the false notion that they are a threat to us, then all it takes is another Neo-conservative administration and "another Perl Harbor" and we're at war again.

Both parties are following the exact same failed, dangerous, and expensive foreign policy, arguing only over the details.

Clinton, did exactly what he was suppose to do when it came to handling Iraq. They pushed, we pushed back - equally. The country was in fiscal ruin due to our sanctions and there was a massive amount of animosity building against Saddam's regime. Ex. The attempted assassination on Saddam's sons.

In my opinion I don't believe Iran is a credible threat and there leaders words are nothing but saber-rattling. Given Obama education, past experience and open additude towards middle east affairs - leaving Iraq I seriously doubt he wants war unlike John "Bomb Iran" McSame.