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Moonbeam

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For idNut and other corporate drones:

McFacts abut the McDonalds Coffee Lawsuit

Everyone knows what you're talking about when you mention "the McDonald's lawsuit." Even though this case was decided in August of 1994, for many Americans it continues to represent the "problem" with our civil justice system.

The business community and insurance industry have done much to perpetuate this case. They don't want us to forget it. They know it helps them convince politicians that "tort reform" and other restrictions on juries is needed. And worse, they know it poisons the minds of citizens who sit on juries.

Unfortunately, not all the facts have been communicated - facts that put the case and the monetary award to the 81-year old plaintiff in a significantly different light.

According to the Wall Street journal, McDonald's callousness was the issue and even jurors who thought the case was just a tempest in a coffee pot were overwhelmed by the evidence against the Corporation.

The facts of the case, which caused a jury of six men and six women to find McDonald's coffee was unreasonably dangerous and had caused enough human misery and suffering that no one should be made to suffer exposure to such excessively hot coffee again, will shock and amaze you:

McFact No. 1: For years, McDonald's had known they had a problem with the way they make their coffee - that their coffee was served much hotter (at least 20 degrees more so) than at other restaurants.

McFact No. 2: McDonald's knew its coffee sometimes caused serious injuries - more than 700 incidents of scalding coffee burns in the past decade have been settled by the Corporation - and yet they never so much as consulted a burn expert regarding the issue.

McFact No. 3: The woman involved in this infamous case suffered very serious injuries - third degree burns on her groin, thighs and buttocks that required skin grafts and a seven-day hospital stay.

McFact No. 4: The woman, an 81-year old former department store clerk who had never before filed suit against anyone, said she wouldn't have brought the lawsuit against McDonald's had the Corporation not dismissed her request for compensation for medical bills.

McFact No. 5: A McDonald's quality assurance manager testified in the case that the Corporation was aware of the risk of serving dangerously hot coffee and had no plans to either turn down the heat or to post warning about the possibility of severe burns, even though most customers wouldn't think it was possible.

McFact No. 6: After careful deliberation, the jury found McDonald's was liable because the facts were overwhelmingly against the company. When it came to the punitive damages, the jury found that McDonald's had engaged in willful, reckless, malicious, or wanton conduct, and rendered a punitive damage award of 2.7 million dollars. (The equivalent of just two days of coffee sales, McDonalds Corporation generates revenues in excess of 1.3 million dollars daily from the sale of its coffee, selling 1 billion cups each year.)

McFact No. 7: On appeal, a judge lowered the award to $480,000, a fact not widely publicized in the media.

McFact No. 8: A report in Liability Week, September 29, 1997, indicated that Kathleen Gilliam, 73, suffered first degree burns when a cup of coffee spilled onto her lap. Reports also indicate that McDonald's consistently keeps its coffee at 185 degrees, still approximately 20 degrees hotter than at other restaurants. Third degree burns occur at this temperature in just two to seven seconds, requiring skin grafting, debridement and whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and disability to the victims for many months, and in some cases, years.

The most important message this case has for you, the consumer, is to be aware of the potential danger posed by your early morning pick-me-up. Take extra care to make sure children do not come into contact with scalding liquid, and always look to the facts before rendering your decision about any publicized case.

Courtesy of Legal News and Views, Ohio Academy of Trial Lawyers

 

Amused

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I see Moonie is still parotting the same tired BS about the stupid old lady who neglegently spilled coffee between her own legs..

Pssst, Moonie, if they're corporate drones, you're an ambulance chaser drone. Guess which is worse?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: idNut
When I read the topic I thought you were suing because you spilled it on your crotch, thank God you didn't. Don't need another stupid lawsuit like that.

No no no, Frapps are cold, silly.

Wait, maybe I should spill it, and sue for "shrinkage."
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: idNut
When I read the topic I thought you were suing because you spilled it on your crotch, thank God you didn't. Don't need another stupid lawsuit like that.

No no no, Frapps are cold, silly.

Wait, maybe I should spill it, and sue for "shrinkage."

hehehe...mmmmm..... frappacinno.... vanilla.... mmmm......
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Even Folger's instant beats the crap out of the slop Scarbutts sell as coffee. The place has real charm though for the insecure, which is the kind of customer it gets. They are all the same. Once you master a few key words you can go into any of them anywhere and act like you know what you are doing. No need to feel intimidated by a real life experience. You're part of the scene, part of the routine, a corporate trained drone, another worker ant. Not to worry though, you have also been trained not to have a spare moment to think or even realize how empty life has become.

I get most of mine at the supermarket, Moonbeam. I own my own business and do much of my work at home, Moonbeam.

I'm sorry you got confused in a coffee shop and felt intimidated.

Go try psychoanalyzing a rat. You might get lucky and come up with some bullsh!t that's somewhat close.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: gonzo2k
Order this for best caffeine/$$ ratio @ starbucks:

Grande "REDEYE" (houseblend with shot of espresso) About $2.30. Pay first and ask nicely to drop in both shots (they always make 2 and are "supposed" to toss the unused one away YMMV). Tipping doesn't hurt if you're a regular.

Now drive 500 miles to a movie!;)

I hate people like you so much. You don't pay, you don't get the shot. That comes out of my paycheck.

Oh quit yer bitchin', you glorified drug dealer.


Look who's talking. You're the one too weak to say no to a cup of coffee.

Pssst! Hey little boy, wanna try a Frappucino?

We all know how you drug dealers operate.

 

Gaard

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I'm one of those people who wouldn't have a clue what's what when looking up at the menu in one of those coffee shops. I tried one of those whipped, butterfinger flavored drinks out of the coffee machine at work once, what a waste of 45 cents. :| Other than that drink, I don't have a clue what any of the fancy named drinks are...or what they taste like. I'll take a cup of regular coffee with a splash of milk and a little sugar any day...that's all the farther I'm willing to sugarcoat my addiction. ;)

ps - cold coffee just sounds gross.
 

Platypus

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I fear for you Amused One.

And to moonbeam, thanks for the laugh, but since when hasn't a natiowide food service business looked just like every other one in existance? You can apply your silly arguement on McDonalds if you consider it. Those corporate bastards! They all carry the same product!!!

And no, any person with half a mouth full of tastebuds knows that folgers is no comparrison to our coffee. Perhaps it's too strong for you? And also, how do you know so much about how we operate if you are such a rebel against the system?
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: b1er
Sorry................. I'll let it go longer next time................... They didn't even have a clue.................LOL

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obviously you missed my post stating, "a little obvious, don't ya think?"
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
I fear for you Amused One.

As well you should!! Fear for all of us who have been sucked in by Big Caffeine and their insidious Juan Valdez commercials and subliminal TV show advertising on teen shows like Friends... enticing little kids to get hooked!! They are poisoning us with their deadly, addictive drugs! We can't possibly be held responsible for our own actions in the face of addictions like this! Caffeine needs to be outlawed and a full scale War on Caffeine waged!

 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
I fear for you Amused One.

As well you should!! Fear for all of us who have been sucked in by Big Caffeine and their insidious Juan Valdez commercials and subliminal TV show advertising on teen shows like friends... enticing little kids to get hooked!! They are poisoning us with their deadly, addictive drugs! We can't possibly be held responsible for our own actions in the face of addictions like this! Caffeine needs to be outlawed and a full scale War on Caffeine waged!

I think you're insane.

/takes another drink of his coffee...wondering how i got it and where.

oh well. /drinks again.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Gaard


ps - cold coffee just sounds gross.

That's what they said about tea once, too. ;)

Next time you're at the minimarket getting gas, pick up a vanilla Frappucino in the cold drink section and give it a try. Don't think that the powdered crap they have in machines compares to this.

 

Noriaki

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ps - cold coffee just sounds gross.

What, you've never had a coffee slurpee like drink from 7-11?

Cold coffee is gross. I don't know how they manage to stomach that stuff.

Of course I barely like regular coffee...so...


I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw through it...but to those who spoiled AmusedOne by letting the cat out of the bag. Don't worry most people don't read the whole post before replying. So you'll see plenty still suckered in.
 

Mr N8

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You're a stupid A$$. An addiction can be overcome, so be a man and take some responsibility for your own actions. Why the hell would you pay $4 for a cup of sugar and cream anyway? I make those things at home for around $.10. All you need is a blender, ice, sugar, milk, and brewed coffee. Save yourself some cash, make your own, and don't waste the courts time with blaming your own weaknesses on someone else.
 

element

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You're a stupid A$$. An addiction can be overcome, so be a man and take some responsibility for your own actions. Why the hell would you pay $4 for a cup of sugar and cream anyway? I make those things at home for around $.10. All you need is a blender, ice, sugar, milk, and brewed coffee. Save yourself some cash, make your own, and don't waste the courts time with blaming your own weaknesses on someone else.

Let's start a class action suit against Skoorb for emotional distress!
 

Moonbeam

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CorporateRecreation, hehe, I do apply exactly the same thing to MacDonalds and all other destroyers of small business entities, where human personality was stamped on their services. It's all about hurry up and die, sterile certainty. People are afraid of the unknown and miss the chance to live. I only have to try to take people to a real coffee shop that fresh roasts the beans on site daily to see the reaction.
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Amused Quote:

I get most of mine at the supermarket, Moonbeam. I own my own business and do much of my work at home, Moonbeam.

I'm sorry you got confused in a coffee shop and felt intimidated.

Go try psychoanalyzing a rat. You might get lucky and come up with some bullsh!t that's somewhat close.
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Are you OK, Amused?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: b1er
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You guys are slipping...........

Ok, what the hell is the Skoorb Effect? I've been reading this board for more than a year, and I have no idea what it is. Someone please explain!

BTW, if coffee doesn't have chickory, it's not coffee to me :)

 

Last Sunday I had no coffee left in my house to make, so I stuffed my money I had in my wallet and got on my bike and drove to Starbucks, about a mile from me. It turns out I was a buck short, so I just went home and said I could live without coffee for a day. Really bad idea. By 8:00 at night I was totally in withdrawl. My mouth was all craving coffee and my body felt really sick.

That's from drinking only one large Starbuck's coffee a day.

Where do I sign up?

 

Palek

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Originally posted by: hammer09
nicely done :)
Thank you, master hammer! You have always been a great source of inspiration. :D

I wonder how many people actually read past the original post. Not many, it seems, from the incredibly high number of casualties. The Skoorb Effect also seems to have not lost any of its power, taking down even such battle-hardened platinum members as oldsmoboat. It's gives me a weird feeling of satisfaction to know I was told off for a skoorb post. :D

And people actually took AmusedOne's rambling seriously? Wa-hahahahahaaaaaa!!!!
 

Moonbeam

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It's just a shame that Skarbutts doesn't search people before letting them in.

I could use a cup of fresh roasted Clelebes Kalosi right about now.