I'm such a chump

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TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Because I don't want fellow co-workers to look bad infront of corporate I've agreed to work through June. During that time I'll be making about $300/wk. more by working than sitting on my @ss at home and watching the world go round.

Right now there are not enough experienced people for my Die-room to support the tooling out in production. I've already done a voluntary 30 day stint and now I've agreed to do another to train more people.

I'm such a pushover. :eek:

way better than i make.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: Old Hippie
but now all the classifications have been removed so the overtime will never be as lucrative.
What's this mean? Skilled and craft jobs aren't compensated?

Just all the classifications in the Die Room. We are represented by IAM not the UAW which represents the other 6000 employees at the original 6 plants. We are small, comprising only 120 employees between the two Die Rooms, one here in Detroit and the other one in Tanawanda, NY. The company seeing our weakness started playing one Die Room against the other. We signed a concessionary agreement in February that along with a bunch of monetary givebacks consolidated four classifications (Tool and Die, Die Repair, Die Sinker, and Welder).

Don't worry the UAW's time for givebacks will be next year.
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm confused.

You worked there for 19 years and quit? What about retirement/pension? :confused:

Also, were you making more than $10/hr before you quit? If so, why only $10/hr now that you so nicely volunteered to come back?
Not quit, retiring.
Part of the agreement involved the adoption of a 2 tier wage and benefit package along with a buyout package.
Those with 30 years got $60K to retire, those with at least 26 years get to retire early (this is me with 28 3/4 years), those with 10 years can quit and get $100K, less than 10 years could get $70K.
Those last two options, those quiting outright, will get $50 per month for every year of credited service when they turn 65 with no benefits.

I'm getting about $300 more per week to be there working rather than sitting at home collecting a buy-into-retirement check.

 

Old Hippie

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We signed a concessionary agreement in February that along with a bunch of monetary givebacks consolidated four classifications (Tool and Die, Die Repair, Die Sinker, and Welder).
I read about the money thing, but as usual, details are listed as "contract language".
I don't know how you feel about retiring, but I think it's great. I'm 55 and retired with full benefits @ 2 1/2 yrs ago. I thought maybe I'd become bored and want a part time job. It just ain't happening. I'm pretty sure I've become unemployable.:laugh:
I'm the "Hut Slut", while my wife still works. :)
 

TheKub

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Interesting--What do you think of the people who blame unions for contributing to US heavy industries problems?


No crap! My most recent experience with the union (UAW no less) working in IT for the government was painfull. Most people worked JUST hard enough to not get fired. The would fight and dig at everything that management wanted to do. It got really bad that the head union rep guy refused to have meetings with several of the members.

Currently working for IT in the government in a non union envrionment and love it!
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: panipoori
How much do you normally get

<---union die maker in Detroit at a tier one supplier. I hope that helps you out.

So how's the weather in Detroit right now? And yes, you sound like a chump. Especially in your field.

The weather's great. 80F Although, where I often have to work 10 feet down in a machine wedged into a 2' X 2' area in between the tooling that's maybe 200F and covered in water and oil. Oh yeah, you get push on an air chisel until your arms fail then you rest for a minute then go back to trying to push metal around. Then eat and breath the grinding and polishing dust you'll be throwing.

Don't worry you'll barely notice your underwear soaked with sweat compared with your eyes stinging from all the salty sweat that'll have run into them.

Now you understand why nobody knows the job well. It used to pay an extra $15K to $25K a year, but now all the classifications have been removed so the overtime will never be as lucrative.


I would have held out for $12 an hour.