I'm sorry, but aluminum is a terrible material for handheld devices

desura

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1. It is pretty soft.
2. Easy to dent and nick
3. Cold to the touch
4. Slips and slides
5. hard edges and not very ergonomic.
6. Blocks signals.

Plastic and rubber are better on all of those cases.

The only good thing about metal construction is that the space it saves makes it easier to put it in a case.
 

poofyhairguy

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After having a M8 for over a year I agree, but the masses have spoken. People want phones that look pretty over ones that look functional.

We nerds all hate to admit this, but when a device is on you all day every day for some people the fashionability of it is a major consideration.
 

sweenish

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They could pick a better metal.

Soda, pizza, and $600+ dollars of electronics housed in the same material.

I also hate the way they throw out "aero-grade" without EVER mentioning the temper. If you don't the full spec of the metal, it's always assumed to just be as strong as foil. Which these phone exteriors are.

Premium materials are the cheapest metal they can find, and everyone bought it up.
 

BoberFett

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After having a M8 for over a year I agree, but the masses have spoken. People want phones that look pretty over ones that look functional.

We nerds all hate to admit this, but when a device is on you all day every day for some people the fashionability of it is a major consideration.

People say that, and then the first thing they do is stick their pretty phones in an Otterbox. I don't get it. I prefer my phones to be function over form.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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Its for aesthetic. It certainly looks more premium than cheap plastic. Besides, its so much lighter than metal. more conformable to carry and hold in your hands and less impact force when it falls.
 

jhu

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That's why I custom made an osmium shell for my phone and discarded the old shell.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Its for aesthetic. It certainly looks more premium than cheap plastic. Besides, its so much lighter than metal. more conformable to carry and hold in your hands and less impact force when it falls on the faces of people who read them in bed ....

Completed that for you.. :p
 

lxskllr

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I agree. I'd pay extra for a plastic case. Semi-durable goods are the ideal use for plastics. Not disposable junk.
 

thilanliyan

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I prefer the aluminum build of my old M7 to a Nokia 1020 I have. I do like the steel frame of my BB Passport but there's too much plastic for my taste. TBH, plastic if pretty soft too...it's not easy to dent but it's definitely easy to nick. Probably the best built phone I had was a Nokia E72...stainless steel all around...that was nice.
 
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For some reason people equate metal = being better built.

It's really weird. I guess cars should be made of solid steel because steel = better build quality.
 

Crono

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I'll agree that aluminum isn't ideal if your phone takes any kind of physical impact, and yes there are engineering challenges to keep the metal from blocking the radios. A metal body doesn't need to have hard edges or be unergonomic (is that a word? :hmm:), but I'll agree that aluminum does dent more easily (versus cracking for plastic, which usually takes more force).

Most aluminum body phones are unibody and a bit more svelte than the standard plastic body phone. That's partly a visual design choice that does come with drawbacks, but I, for one, am glad we have options. I don't think all phones should be plastic even if it has more things going for it as a material vs aluminum. Equivalent argument for cars would be saying, "I'm sorry, but leather is a terrible material for car interiors". Sure, you could make the argument that cloth is better for more situations, but plenty of people prefer leather. Personal taste is a factor when you are talking about the design and material choices of things that you touch and use.

But there are other metals than aluminum that are better suited for other reasons for phone construction than aluminum, and even aluminum itself has different grades and thicknesses... it need not be a worse choice overall than plastic. I love the magnesium alloy Microsoft uses for the Surface line, for instance, though that's still not as sturdy as a plastic body would be.

I actual prefer the feel of metal versus plastic, though certain soft touch plastics aren't bad and are less slippery. Some materials like steel (at least for the frame) or carbon fiber may give phones a higher quality feel and sturdier construction in the future, but cost and weight are the main reasons plastic and aluminum are the main choices right now. We'll probably see more mixed material/composite bodies in the future, with metal frames, plastic or metal backs, and other materials like ceramic (LG is already using ceramic coatings) for good measure. The original Motorola Droid for instance was nigh indestructible, but smartphones have trended towards lighter bodies since then.

Titanium would be great to use as well if it weren't so expensive, though I'm sure it could be done for the highest end flagships. The Turing phone uses some exotic metal that's supposedly stronger than titanium.

The last aluminum body phone I owned was the HTC One M8, and I found it to be rather sturdy (the M7 - though prettier - had some issues). It may not have been as tough as its primary competitor, the Galaxy S5, but I think it's good enough proof that aluminum can be used in a design without majorly compromising usability or durability*.

* Just speaking from my own experience... I'm sure you can find someone with an anecdote about how easily their phone broke from a fall or something, but the same is true of almost any phone given the right circumstances.
 
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Auric

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I prefer the aluminum build of my old M7 to a Nokia 1020 I have. I do like the steel frame of my BB Passport but there's too much plastic for my taste. TBH, plastic if pretty soft too...it's not easy to dent but it's definitely easy to nick. Probably the best built phone I had was a Nokia E72...stainless steel all around...that was nice.

It's eerie how tough and durable those E-series are.
 
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Mopetar

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For some reason people equate metal = being better built.

It's really weird. I guess cars should be made of solid steel because steel = better build quality.

For cars, they intentionally design them to deform in certain ways when impacted. The kinetic energy from the crash needs to go somewhere, and it's much safer to the driver if it's absorbed by parts of the chassis crumples.

Also depending on the particular alloys being used, an aluminum phone might be more damage resistant than one using stainless steel.
 

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neither plastics nor aluminum are good choices... I wish we had some other bio degradable material like wood that could be used
 
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I remember Seiko having titanium watches, i used to have one before it broke down :(. It would be great to have a brushed titanium body for a mobile phone. Would make it a bit more expensive though. It would be impervious for skin acid.

Why is titanium an ideal material to be used inside the body and on it ?
Anybody know ?

Titanium with rubber edges phone... :wub:
 
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MarkizSchnitzel

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Completely agree with OP.
When I am having sex, I still HAVE TO use a condom. But in phones, I don't want to have to do it. It's just counter productive and ridiculous. Bizzare, goes against all reason.
 
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Am I the only one that feels like the aluminum phones actually feel cheap? Its not the aluminum that does it either, its how they use it. Like HTC and the iPhone unibody frame is ok, but I think the overall design (especially the plastic sections for the antennae) just seemed cheap in a way that I can't quite define. I personally preferred the faux leather and steel that Samsung was using as the overall in hand feel just seemed better to me. The new Samsung designs are kinda chintzy due to it being glossier with all the glass they slathered on (which I don't like the glass backs at all).

I think design is a big part of it. Like how Nokia was able to make polycarbonate feel premium because they had a good design.

My lgv10 has steel edges. Not some pussy aluminium.

I like the steel edge and even the heft, although that does actually make the V10 a bit problematic to hold. The mix of weight and slippery edges has made me fumble the phone a bit and a few times. I'm not worried about dropping it as it is sturdy enough that it should hold up fine. I do wish they'd find a way to keep the sturdy feel, but cull the weight a bit. Would a polished aluminum with just a bit of recessed texture down the middle (there's like a chamfer or something on the steel edges now, so about in that spot) be able to offer similar sturdy feel but with less weight? Bonus if they'd be able to anodize it and match the other accent colors (and if they'd make the camera ring actual magnetic and then release some good quality magnetic lenses).
 

Zaap

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Agreed.
What amazes me more is that glass is accepted as a logical handheld device material.

I wonder sometimes at some point did some think tank of marketing gurus get together to solve the conundrum of "How do we build planned-obsolescence into these devices, but not have people balk at the *OBVIOUSLY* stupidly fragile materials we're using to achieve it?"

Some genius perhaps hit upon the notion of just marketing the materials as 'premium' rather than the previous 'substandard' and it's been off to the races ever since.
 

desura

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Agreed.
What amazes me more is that glass is accepted as a logical handheld device material.

I wonder sometimes at some point did some think tank of marketing gurus get together to solve the conundrum of "How do we build planned-obsolescence into these devices, but not have people balk at the *OBVIOUSLY* stupidly fragile materials we're using to achieve it?"

Some genius perhaps hit upon the notion of just marketing the materials as 'premium' rather than the previous 'substandard' and it's been off to the races ever since.

Well, glass is necessary for touchscreens. Ever used a plastic touchscreen? Scratch city.

But glass anywhere else but the touchscreen is dumb.