I'm sick of war! What the U.S. should have done.

[Kirby]

"What the US should've done" to prevent such a blatant lie that got us into Iraq?

1) What the US should've done is investigated its own coverups and corruption at the highest levels preceeding the lie to Iraq. One of many examples: the ongoing coverup of Oklahoma City, where multiple bombs were found and defused. How on earth did Timothy Mcveigh plant those extra bombs you say? :hmm:

2) Of course, your US government would be able to identify and charge some of the extra bombers, but refuse to release any footage of the extra suspects or any footage of the ryder truck.

3) Not to worry! When the US government was finally cornered and had to release "some" video footage, they edited out all video footage that could've identified the extra suspects, and flat out refused to show our public the ryder truck before the bombing.

So, in conclusion, what the US should've done was to clear out the criminal elements within its own government. That would've certainly prevented the lie that is the Iraq war. Then again, the US failed to properly investigate the conspiracy that assassinated its own president JFK decades ago (see sig), along with RFK, JFK Jr, MLK, 9/11, etc etc etc. So much for justice, you silly americans.

Enjoy America, you get many more decades of lies, deaths of your own citizens, and conspiracies for your outright refusal to weed out the criminals embedded in your government Oh, inc hateful "tinfoil hat comments" from idiots and liars who refuse to acknowledge the above links that prove the Oklahoma City coverup is still in place :awe:

What the US should have down is mandated required abortions for mothers with drug and alcohol abuse, to spare AT of your retardation.

 

[al981]

What the US should have down is mandated required abortions for mothers with drug and alcohol abuse, to spare AT of your retardation.

Funny how you completely dodged the links proving the Oklahoma City bombing coverup continues. Pussy.

As I stated previously: "Oh, inc hateful "tinfoil hat comments" from idiots and liars who refuse to acknowledge the above links that prove the Oklahoma City coverup is still in place :awe:"

You fail yet again, nkgreen. Eat those links and enjoy the taste :thumbsup:

 

[Kirby]

Funny how you completely dodged the links proving the Oklahoma City bombing coverup continues. Pussy.

As I stated previously: "Oh, inc hateful "tinfoil hat comments" from idiots and liars who refuse to acknowledge the above links that prove the Oklahoma City coverup is still in place :awe:"

You fail yet again, nkgreen. Eat those links and enjoy the taste :thumbsup:

The only fail is your mother not squeezing your dad's gimped jizz out of her diseased twat.

The world lulz and cries at your stupidity.

 

[ebaycj]

I believe, though, that eventually Yemen and Iran and Pakistan are going to realize that we're not going to do anything to them, no matter what they do, and they are going to effect another huge terrorist attack on us.

Really? What gives you that idea?

 

[StageLeft]

Most of America initially supported going into Iraq so anything else is crying over spilled milk and the past can't be changed so there's no use whining about it.

America supported it because they were lied to about the evidence supporting Iraq's WMD plans and efforts. I disagree about leaving it, though. I think that if those who were pivotal in pushing the war on known false information were held accountable it would give pause to those in the future who might do the same.

Is Mr. Obama not then an accessory to the crime?

Nope, he actually didn't support going into Iraq, did he?

Bush and Cheney may have betrayed virtues, but they did not betray the nation. Afghanistan was simply not a big enough war to vent the collective rage, and Bush knew this.

A stronger man would have denied them their blood lust. He had the power to do so.

 

[al981]

The only fail is your mother not squeezing your dad's gimped jizz out of her diseased twat.

The world lulz and cries at your stupidity.

Keep on dodging the OKC links that prove an ongoing coverup, mental midget. Obviously your father and mother forgot to teach you courage and guts. Might as well have aborted you

 

[nageov3t]

I checked the OP like 3 times to see if this was a bump from 2003/4

what we "should" have done is meaningless.

 

[FalseChristian]

I checked the OP like 3 times to see if this was a bump from 2003/4

what we "should" have done is meaningless.

Take it easy. We're having a discussion of 2 wars that are still relevant even today.

 

[Moonbeam]

The problem is America is not actually a strong enough country to nationally admit fault to the extent required to charge Bush. It could only do that if it was ready to admit that it had as a combined whole completely fvcked that one up and with Bush as a figure head.

There are still to many people with "well maybe" and "but if we hadn't..."; they lack the self-esteem to admit they are part of the problem and willing to grow from the lesson.

Holy shit, next thing you know and you will be seeing self hate as the key to everything.

 

[Moonbeam]

Most of America initially supported going into Iraq so anything else is crying over spilled milk and the past can't be changed so there's no use whining about it.

Time will tell but, in 20+ years, going into Iraq could very well be viewed as the best thing the US ever did in the ME. So few ever want to consider the long term aspect of it though.

He already whined about it so there is no use in me pointing out that you aren't following your own advise because you already didn't follow it in whining about something he already did.

 

[Kirby]

Keep on dodging the OKC links that prove an ongoing coverup, mental midget. Obviously your father and mother forgot to teach you courage and guts. Might as well have aborted you

So 99.9999999999% of every goddamn person on earth are just sheeple, and you and a couple other wackos are the only people that know the truth? Bill couldn't keep a knob-slobbing covered up, but our perfectly organized, super efficient government covered up a bombing? GTFO. If making up shit makes you feel special, more power to you. But at least pick something more interesting, like Elvis, Jimmy Hoffa, or Tupac. Even the moon landing would be a welcome change.

 

[al981]

So 99.9999999999% of every goddamn person on earth are just sheeple, and you and a couple other wackos are the only people that know the truth? Bill couldn't keep a knob-slobbing covered up, but our perfectly organized, super efficient government covered up a bombing? GTFO. If making up shit makes you feel special, more power to you. But at least pick something more interesting, like Elvis, Jimmy Hoffa, or Tupac. Even the moon landing would be a welcome change.

You are wrong again. I would say 99% of the population has never seen the footage of multiple bombs being found and disarmed in the federal building, along with the news footage of multiple witnesses on record stating multiple bombers emerged from the ryder truck. In fact, I didn't see or hear about it until a few years ago. Nor the fact that the US government continues to sit on video tapes from multiple angles and multiple streets that could identify the extra bombers. Now we have that out of the way, you have continually dodged those corroborated reports that destroy the official lies about what happened that day.

Dodge more, and enjoy that crow, mental midget.

Inc another post from nkgreen where he refuses to address the links. pussy.

 

[werepossum]

I think Bush removed Hussein mostly because he had become a symbol to the Muslim world's rulers that you could defy the USA, attack them and not suffer consequences personally - personification of the bin Ladin statement that America is a paper tiger. I think Iraq may be one of the greatest things we've ever done as a country. I still believe that most people, including Arabs and Muslims, desire peace and freedom and prefer fear of terrorists over fear of government. I believe that in spite of our muddling it from time to time, Iraq as a democracy will take root and become a shining beacon of freedom in the Middle East. Time will tell though.

Regardless of that no one should hold Obama responsible for Iraq and Afghanistan. He owns them now, but just surrendering would be the absolute worst thing he could possibly have done, even if it made him and his followers feel morally superior. Even if you otherwise despise everything the man does (and I'm not far from that point) you should give him credit for manning up and doing the best he can with a bad situation he inherited, when he could just have run away and claimed they "couldn't be won".

 

[sportage]

THis is why (i.e. war) Obama and democrats are in trouble.
People just wanted what Obama promised when running...

End to these war(s).
Public option in healthcare.
End to DADT in the military.
End of tax cut extension for the top 2%.
No wall street bailouts. PERIOD!

Pretty simple.
They failed to deliver on any of it.
So people are in a purge process i.e. tea party anger and all.
Its not that people want crazy Sarah Palin types in office,
its that they feel the currents must be replaced by whatever, anything.
Then in 2012 you'll see another purging. And in 2014. And so on and so on.
Tea party might has a good run temporally, but they are just part of the purge process.
They'll be gone and replaced too, in the next few election cycles.

But Obama had it right.. once upon a time.. with demanding these war(s) end.
Then he got elected. Nuff said. Typical.

 

[werepossum]

THis is why (i.e. war) Obama and democrats are in trouble.
People just wanted what Obama promised when running...

End to these war(s).
Public option in healthcare.
End to DADT in the military.
End of tax cut extension for the top 2%.
No wall street bailouts. PERIOD!

Pretty simple.
They failed to deliver on any of it.
So people are in a purge process i.e. tea party anger and all.
Its not that people want crazy Sarah Palin types in office,
its that they feel the currents must be replaced by whatever, anything.
Then in 2012 you'll see another purging. And in 2014. And so on and so on.
Tea party might has a good run temporally, but they are just part of the purge process.
They'll be gone and replaced too, in the next few election cycles.

But Obama had it right.. once upon a time.. with demanding these war(s) end.
Then he got elected. Nuff said. Typical.

Right. All you lefties remember that the Tea Party people are actually disaffected liberals disappointed at the lack of liberality when next you're tempted to call them right-wing loons marching in lockstep.

 

[piasabird]

I did not support the Iraq War. I thought it a bit pointless. Even if we did somewhat stabilize Iraq it is still a muslim nation populated by people that hate non-muslims. If we leave I doubt they can hold the country together. I wish them well, but I dont see how we did that much good for what we paid for it. It does show many shortcomings for our ability to help rebuild a nation.

I guess my problem is I dont believe in a nicer gentler war. We should either destroy our enemies or stay the hell out of it.

 

[brandonbull]

We should have used the attacks to rally the country behind removing ourselves from depending on oil from the ME and advancing ourselves into new areas of manufacture. The Saudis and now the Chinese have us by our "financial balls" so we can't give them a big FU when we know they are screwing around.

The US would be light years ahead of everyone else on alternative fuels and techs to where we don't have to think about giving the Chinese tech secrets so they will share rare earth resources. The Saudis couldn't be sharing the billions that we send them for oil each year with terror groups they help support.

 

[brandonbull]

The way it looks now all we should have done was to send everyone in the ME a friend request.

 

[Zebo]

lol

 

[dmcowen674]

I understand going into Afghanistan because the Taliban were harboring the murderous Al-Qeada but not Iraq.

Bush and his cronies lied so boldly about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. It is an illegal war. People are dieing left and right for nothing.

What?

He used those WMD planes and flew them into the Trade Towers and Pentagon, how can you forget so soon?