I'm really annoyed

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It is all very complicated though if you're not an IT professional. Amongst my family and peers, I'm deemed a "computer expert". I'm nothing of the sort I just grew up with computers and in the computer age. If I was I wouldn't be on here so much. I have never used a pirated OS, but it has never been so tempting.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: fisher
sorry you've had so many problems, but i still don't think it condones pirating the operating system.

I'm not saying I condone piracy per se (I've jumped into the illegal-music-downloading debate on these forums several times arguing against piracy), I'm just saying I understand the temptation sometimes when manufacturers start taking such draconian measures to protect their copyright in whatever (software, movies, music) they produce that the legit user is affected. I understand that people work hard creating intellectual property, and I agree that they have a right to be compensated for it, but between things like Windows Activation, the whole Starforce controversy, DRM restrictions in digital music downloads, etc., my fair-use rights are getting seriously restricted, and as a paying customer, I don't appreciate that. I really don't know what the answer is, and I hate piracy with a passion, but it just seems some of these copyright protection schemes hurt legit users much more than the pirates. I'm just ranting, I guess.

 

[igowerf]

Oddly enough, I've used my copy of WinXP on two completely different sets of hardware (not simultaneously) without having to call in. I recently built a new rig after my old one died, and I just reused the same legal copy of WinXP and activated online after I installed all of my drivers.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: fisher
sorry you've had so many problems, but i still don't think it condones pirating the operating system.

I'm not saying I condone piracy per se (I've jumped into the illegal-music-downloading debate on these forums several times arguing against piracy), I'm just saying I understand the temptation sometimes when manufacturers start taking such draconian measures to protect their copyright in whatever (software, movies, music) they produce that the legit user is affected.

What draconian measures are you talking about? He just can't his CD-key working... this kind of problems has been around since the first CD-key software were produced.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: fisher
sorry you've had so many problems, but i still don't think it condones pirating the operating system.

I'm not saying I condone piracy per se (I've jumped into the illegal-music-downloading debate on these forums several times arguing against piracy), I'm just saying I understand the temptation sometimes when manufacturers start taking such draconian measures to protect their copyright in whatever (software, movies, music) they produce that the legit user is affected. I understand that people work hard creating intellectual property, and I agree that they have a right to be compensated for it, but between things like Windows Activation, the whole Starforce controversy, DRM restrictions in digital music downloads, etc., my fair-use rights are getting seriously restricted, and as a paying customer, I don't appreciate that. I really don't know what the answer is, and I hate piracy with a passion, but it just seems some of these copyright protection schemes hurt legit users much more than the pirates. I'm just ranting, I guess.

i agree with you on starforce, to the point that i won't buy any games with it. with windows i accept it because 1) i have used OEM copies in the past and they seem to be more finicky and 2) i am an enthusiast who is going to be reinstalling windows more than the average user. i haven't had any drm problems, i buy cds second hand (for the most part) and rip them with itunes or cdex depending on which pc they are on.

i don't know what the answer is either, but i do know that it's unfortunate companies have had to go this far to protect their ability to make money.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: fisher
sorry you've had so many problems, but i still don't think it condones pirating the operating system.

I'm not saying I condone piracy per se (I've jumped into the illegal-music-downloading debate on these forums several times arguing against piracy), I'm just saying I understand the temptation sometimes when manufacturers start taking such draconian measures to protect their copyright in whatever (software, movies, music) they produce that the legit user is affected.

What draconian measures are you talking about? He just can't his CD-key working... this kind of problems has been around since the first CD-key software were produced.

I was speaking about copyright protection schemes generally.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: fisher
i haven't had any drm problems, i buy cds second hand (for the most part) and rip them with itunes or cdex depending on which pc they are on.

This is another thing that drives me nuts - the music industry's insistence on full albums or nothing. I love the theory of itunes - I think consumers should be able to buy individual tracks instead of having to buy whole albums just to get 2-3 songs, but it seems the single is all but dead. I used to love Real's Rhapsody service, which sold .cda files burned right to CD-R, with no DRM. I'd buy mix albums (every track selected by me) off them which I could play in my car, home CD player, etc., and could also rip to my MP3 player, and it was all legal. Now, however, Rhapsody uses DRM, and the files are so much more restricted. Plus, labels will have albums listed in the catalog, with every track but the biggest, most popular track (for which you have to buy the whole album)! Grrrr....

i don't know what the answer is either, but i do know that it's unfortunate companies have had to go this far to protect their ability to make money.

Agreed.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: djmihow
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR MATEY.

Read the thread. OP: This is a problem for the seller. Call them and say that your sending the XP back because the CD key doesnt work. Ask for a refund, or exchange.