I'm proud to be a Canadian.

FalseChristian

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We up here in the Great White North we have almost as much freedom as our dear friends of that very friendly (thankfully) reluctant Superpower to the south, America.

I think we could learn from each other. We have a government-run healthcare system that is the envy of the world. Up here we have Capitalism with a human face. It is something America needs as well. Our military is small but extremely modern and well-equipped that the U.N. considers us a great power which is 1 step lower than a superpower.

Our population just passed 35,000,000 last month. Although small in comparison to the 3 giants of the world China, India and the U.S. we have more people than 75% of all the countries here on Earth.

I am mentally disabled and cannot work because of the stigma of mental illness and my inability to work with others who mock me and make fun of me. Yet, the government supplies me with a disability pension worth almost $1,200 a month. I don't work yet my income would be the envy of 90% of the world's population.

We have a Conservative government which I routinely criticize without any fear of reprisals. In fact it would be neglecting our civic duty to not air our grievances to anyone who will listen.

Of course we have poor people but our country and its many caring charities such as the United Way and the Salvation Army make sure everyone who wants to eat eats. There is no reason for anyone to go hungry in Canada unless they want to.

To me America must remain the strongest nation the world has ever known and is even prophesied in the Bible along with Great Britian as the last Empire before the 1,000 year reign of Christ begins very shortly.

There is so much more I want to say but it is time to take my meds.

We are free here because of America and for that I am truly grateful for my 2nd most favourite nation in the world, America.
 

FalseChristian

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Technically, Yes, but in the War of 1812 it was the U.S. who started it because of Manifest Destiny. You burned York (now Toronto) to the ground so I guess we're even! LOL!
 

monovillage

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Yeah, what's up with Theresa Spence, the Attawapiskat tribe and the "Idle No More" movement.

Just curious.
 

Doppel

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Thought it would be a Canada wins America sucks type thread, glad I was wrong, OP :0
 

glenn1

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We up here in the Great White North we have almost as much freedom as our dear friends of that very friendly (thankfully) reluctant Superpower to the south, America.

I think we could learn from each other. We have a government-run healthcare system that is the envy of the world. Up here we have Capitalism with a human face. It is something America needs as well. Our military is small but extremely modern and well-equipped that the U.N. considers us a great power which is 1 step lower than a superpower.

Our population just passed 35,000,000 last month. Although small in comparison to the 3 giants of the world China, India and the U.S. we have more people than 75% of all the countries here on Earth.

I am mentally disabled and cannot work because of the stigma of mental illness and my inability to work with others who mock me and make fun of me. Yet, the government supplies me with a disability pension worth almost $1,200 a month. I don't work yet my income would be the envy of 90% of the world's population.

We have a Conservative government which I routinely criticize without any fear of reprisals. In fact it would be neglecting our civic duty to not air our grievances to anyone who will listen.

Of course we have poor people but our country and its many caring charities such as the United Way and the Salvation Army make sure everyone who wants to eat eats. There is no reason for anyone to go hungry in Canada unless they want to.

To me America must remain the strongest nation the world has ever known and is even prophesied in the Bible along with Great Britian as the last Empire before the 1,000 year reign of Christ begins very shortly.

There is so much more I want to say but it is time to take my meds.

We are free here because of America and for that I am truly grateful for my 2nd most favourite nation in the world, America.

Yeah, but for every good like poutine or Tim Hortons, you come up with something just as equally and oppositely horrible like Nickelback or Celine Dion.
 

yllus

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Yeah, what's up with Theresa Spence, the Attawapiskat tribe and the "Idle No More" movement.

Just curious.

Idle No More has some legitimate grievances, while Ms. Spence, via her fake hunger strike and incredible corruption (or incompetence, if you choose to believe she is innocent) has no legitimacy whatsoever.

Ultimately the idea of reserves has been a complete failure; one wonders how we collectively decided communism was a bad road yet foisted it upon aboriginal peoples. Maybe we do owe them a little bit more.
 

Iron Woode

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Yeah, what's up with Theresa Spence, the Attawapiskat tribe and the "Idle No More" movement.

Just curious.
please, don't get me started.

the first 2 are related to each other as she is their chief. She is on a so called hunger strike. Her reserve has wasted millions of dollars. She goes on a hunger strike (really a liquid diet) to show solidarity with the oppressed natives. She really did this because the results of her band's audit were given to her back in September. This report shows her and her cronies have absconded with over $104 million dollars. To deflect this issue from causing embarrassment, she goes on a hunger strike. The audit was publicly released last Monday and now the media is no longer giving a damn about her. She is now claiming that this is all a set-up by the Federal Government to discredit her.

she is a criminal and needs to go to jail.

Idle No More is just a bunch of natives taking the example of OWS and making it even more irrelevant. No goal or purpose; just random demands. It is also imploding slowly. Should be interesting once they start arresting them for their stupid protests.

I thought INM would mean they would go out and get a job, pay taxes and be responsible members of society.
 

Silver Prime

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No offence

But hey if tommy chong dident like canada an came to america, than thats saying something.
 

Whiskey16

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Yeah, what's up with Theresa Spence, the Attawapiskat tribe and the "Idle No More" movement.

Just curious.
Surviving nations that were not devastated by state actioned and militarized genocide. Yes, the recorded facts were of many tribes in the USA who did endure such extremes.

The reality was that the governments in British North America into that of Canada actively opposed and acted against militarised strikes against these aboriginal populations.

Plenty of history to regret but to have the morality to actively oppose the extreme racist and violent routes of the US internal warfare are glaring examples of a more civilised society as opposed to a relatively uncivilised state tarnished by its criminally violent excess.

We are free here because of America and for that I am truly grateful for my 2nd most favourite nation in the world, America.

By the way, the OP's fantasy is out of touch with reality to declare that Canada as being "free" thanks to the USA. By the recorded history, Canada remains free due to the past aggressive failings by the USA in its past expansionist intentions against its northern neighbour. All post New France defensive forts in this region had the sole defensive purpose against ONLY US aggression. That said, no other state other than the USA had nor retains the ability to act in terms of territorial aggression against British North American/Canadian territory. I am not stating that USA may act again against Canada, but the recorded history is that it was the only state that has.

Let me reaffirm. The OP is wrong. Canada is free not thanks to but despite the USA. Canada is a free state due to that of the will of Canadians, geographical happenstance, and finally that of US failings.

...This post ought to tweak the jingoistic hearts among some of our southern neighbours who don't dare face what may be deemed as 'bad'... :sneaky:
 
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monovillage

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please, don't get me started.

the first 2 are related to each other as she is their chief. She is on a so called hunger strike. Her reserve has wasted millions of dollars. She goes on a hunger strike (really a liquid diet) to show solidarity with the oppressed natives. She really did this because the results of her band's audit were given to her back in September. This report shows her and her cronies have absconded with over $104 million dollars. To deflect this issue from causing embarrassment, she goes on a hunger strike. The audit was publicly released last Monday and now the media is no longer giving a damn about her. She is now claiming that this is all a set-up by the Federal Government to discredit her.

she is a criminal and needs to go to jail.

Idle No More is just a bunch of natives taking the example of OWS and making it even more irrelevant. No goal or purpose; just random demands. It is also imploding slowly. Should be interesting once they start arresting them for their stupid protests.

I thought INM would mean they would go out and get a job, pay taxes and be responsible members of society.

Thank you for an honest and rational answer, it's appreciated.
 

Whiskey16

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Yeah, what's up with Theresa Spence, the Attawapiskat tribe and the "Idle No More" movement.

Just curious.
For a decent overview, here is a question and answer sessions with the former Prime Minister Paul Martin, who's Kelowna Accord between the governments of Canada and First Nations was scrapped by the current government and a one of the flashpoints for frustration with the Idle No More protests:

Q: The Kelowna Accord was criticized by some as overly ambitious and expensive. Do you feel this type of mass funding in social welfare programs for aboriginal communities is exactly what's needed now?

A: The Kelowna Accord was not mass funding. It was very targeted to education, healthcare, clean water, economic development, housing and accounting — which is to build up financial capacity, to provide coherent books of account and that sort of thing.

It was very directed. [For example], there is a gross underfunding in terms of primary and secondary schools for education on reserve. The students there are receiving 20 to 30 per cent less per capita than a school off-reserve funded by the provinces. That’s immoral and it’s discrimination. It’s one of the reasons why graduation rates are so much lower for First Nations kids.

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Q: What are your thoughts on the complex debate over privatization of reserve lands?

A: Manny Jules [Chairman of the First Nations Tax Commission], who is First Nations and who has pioneered this idea, makes a very strong case. But it is not one that has been accepted by the vast majority of the bands across the country. This [privatization] is an issue that the bands themselves must decide. It’s not up to the federal government to decide for them. What happened here is the federal government refused to debate the issue and refused to let Parliament debate the issue. It just simply slipped it into a budget bill.

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Q: If one were to draw up a master plan to heal this relationship, what would be the key measures to take now?

A: Explain to Canadians the truth of the issues that are being raised. Canadians do not receive an adequate explanation of this. Some of the incredible misconceptions are fostered by the fact that Canadians don’t know and have never been taught aboriginal history adequately. I think that Idle No More is going to force that kind of explanation of why it is that so many people are taking to the streets.

And then you need to establish priorities. But you can’t build a strong economy without decent education or fair and good healthcare. So let’s have that. It’s not reasonable to expect people to drink toxic water. It is not reasonable to say that you are going to come and explore on traditional lands without sitting down with the people who claim those lands and who you are going to eventually want to employ. Those are the issues that I think are the priority ones.
 

diesbudt

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Can I put a return to sender label on Justin Bieber and you guys take him back?
 

AnitaPeterson

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"We have a government-run healthcare system that is the envy of the world."

Stop right there!

I am Canadian myself, but having lived and traveled extensively throughout Europe, I know very well that statement is patently, blatantly false. It is a cheap system, I'll grant you that, but it's far from enviable. There's a rather nasty shortage of doctors going on, the system is corrupt, and there are long waiting lines for more complicated procedures. To say otherwise is just disinformation. Any European can get better healthcare than your average Canadian.
 

Ausm

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"We have a government-run healthcare system that is the envy of the world."

Stop right there!

I am Canadian myself, but having lived and traveled extensively throughout Europe, I know very well that statement is patently, blatantly false. It is a cheap system, I'll grant you that, but it's far from enviable. There's a rather nasty shortage of doctors going on, the system is corrupt, and there are long waiting lines for more complicated procedures. To say otherwise is just disinformation. Any European can get better healthcare than your average Canadian.

Where they European countries who also have Socialized Healthcare? Just wondering.
 

AnitaPeterson

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yllus and Iron Woode have perfectly summed up the whole ongoing First Nations debacle. It's all an immense joke, made worse by political interests and political correctness.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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You guys are about to have a really nasty housing crash coupled with a reduced demand for natural resources.

Good luck :(
 

AnitaPeterson

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Where they European countries who also have Socialized Healthcare? Just wondering.

Some yes, some not. Some of them were former Communist countries, some of them (like Austria and Germany) were as capitalist as it gets (in European terms).