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I'm proud to be a Californian!

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gdansk said:
It'll be fun to see how proud they are when they run out of water.

Spend some more money on desalination plants. You got the coast, use it.
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We don't need desalination plants, we need high speed rail. That's the way we roll here. Run out of water, build a train. A flood of illegals coming across the border, give them health care, welfare, and drivers licenses. We know how to get shit done, and we're proving to the world that we can do it at a higher cost than anyone else on earth.
 
It is the best state, IMO. I live in Sunnyvale, moved out here from CT ten years ago for school and decided to stay.


Weather is always tolerable, skiing, surfing... whatever you want basically. The downside is everything costs more out here, especially a house. Gas is more expensive because they know they we'll pay it. If you aren't liberal, I could see how it might get frustrating to live in SFC or the Bay, but San Diego leans conservative and so do most of the inland cities (which suck... but whatever). CA is great. I like Colorado and Utah too.
 
AMCRambler said:
High cost of living, highest income tax, smog, hybrids, traffic, crime, crappy government, high murder rate, gangs, illegal immigrants, drugs freely flowing from Mexico(good or bad depending on your lifestyle), high gas taxes, large number of families on temp assistance, earthquakes, droughts and lack of drinking water, ridiculous gun control laws, carbon taxes, the list is endless.

California sucks ass. The only place worse is NY.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/55-reasons-why-california-is-the-worst-state-in-america
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Good points, posting from FL where all of the loonies in the country seem to migrate to eventually. Taxes are cheap in comparison to most other states but wages are well below average as well as we are a "right to work" state, in reality that means "even mention union and your ass is gone in 60 seconds" LOL.
 
This hasn't quite devolved into a 'my state is better than your state' argument yet...but I eagerly await reaching that breaking point...
 
The only states I'd want to live in are California, New York, Oregon and Washington. Unfortunately, so does everyone else and the cost of living is high in the cities I'd want to be in, so it doesn't bother me so much in California. I will probably have to move out though when I'm too old to have a decent job.
 
Childs said:
The only states I'd want to live in are California, New York, Oregon and Washington. Unfortunately, so does everyone else and the cost of living is high in the cities I'd want to be in, so it doesn't bother me so much in California. I will probably have to move out though when I'm too old to have a decent job.
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I'd live in California, Oregon, or Washington, but I won't tolerate high costs of living. It makes no sense to me, so I just let all of you pay those high taxes to keep those states beautiful and I'll come and visit whenever I feel like it. 😀
 
California is a large state, more than LA and Orange County, which is what most people are really referring to when bashing it. Visit the central coast, Yosemite and the other national parks and forests, the Mojave, Catalina, and most other places outside the mega-urbs and you'll find places of great beauty.

Totally agree there are problems with the state as a whole, but balance those with the positives. Its like saying New Jersey as state sucks because of Newark or Michigan because of Detroit.
 
mistercrabby said:
California is a large state, more than LA and Orange County, which is what most people are really referring to when bashing it. Visit the central coast, Yosemite and the other national parks and forests, the Mojave, Catalina, and most other places outside the mega-urbs and you'll find places of great beauty.

Totally agree there are problems with the state as a whole, but balance those with the positives. Its like saying New Jersey as state sucks because of Newark or Michigan because of Detroit.
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California is the most beautiful state I've seen. Yeah, LA/Orange County really suck but I LOVE the central coast and would live in Monterey if I could.

With that being said, the high cost of living doesn't make sense for me.
 
AMCRambler said:
High cost of living, highest income tax, smog, hybrids, traffic, crime, crappy government, high murder rate, gangs, illegal immigrants, drugs freely flowing from Mexico(good or bad depending on your lifestyle), high gas taxes, large number of families on temp assistance, earthquakes, droughts and lack of drinking water, ridiculous gun control laws, carbon taxes, the list is endless.

California sucks ass. The only place worse is NY.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/55-reasons-why-california-is-the-worst-state-in-america
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I love how nearly every single point listed on that website you linked is wrong. :thumbsdown:
 
Cons:
Taxes are stupid high.
Gas tax too.
Politicians here are out of touch with reality. More so than any other state. We are the 7th or 8th largest economy, but we are perpetually broke. They really do hate freedom. There isn't a rational argument to prove otherwise.
Land value is too high. 6 figures isn't a great living.
SoCal people are fake friendly, generally speaking. NoCal, not so much.

Pros:
Weather.
Geography. Beaches, mountains, desert, etc. We have just about everything.
Attractions, we have everything to do.

Advice: if you want to live in SoCal, avoid LA and Ventura counties. Even nice areas. Traffic is always an issue. And it's been getting ugly the past several years with no end in sight.
LA has a high sales tax. And their freeway projects are 15 or 20 years behind the times. Not enough lanes, narrow lanes, and potholes that will make Michigan feel good about themselves.
 
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