I'm on a PowerMacG4 with 1.5 GB of RAM

[TNTrulez]

Running OSX and yet somehow it still seems really slow. I don't know what the big buzz about OSX is. I am using it right now and I have to say I am severly disliking it.

 

[BillGates]

But! You can use photoshop!! And, play games such as.... Breakout, and Super Breakout, and.....photoshop!

 

[TNTrulez]

Bah not to mention the single mouse button that comes standard with these.

 

[Viper GTS]

10.2 is supposed to be significantly more responsive.

Viper GTS

 

[BillGates]

Originally posted by: TNTrulez
Bah not to mention the single mouse button that comes standard with these.

That's really going to make that one Mac fanatic come in here to yell at us. I think he has special filters and every time somebody talks smack about Macs he gets paged and has to come and defend them.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
10.2 is supposed to be significantly more responsive.

Viper GTS

think the word is expensive

 

[Kadarin]

...and I'm on an iMac with 512MB of RAM, also running OSX. I do agree that the GUI is notably less responsive than the Explorer interface on Win2K, but I do like the layout and the Dock, and don't feel that the single-button mouse is a handicap (try the click-and-hold maneuver to replace the right-click).

 

[notfred]

And I'm using a 700mhz G3 iBook with 384 megs of ram, and yeah, the GUI isn't as "snappy", but it doesn't feel slow. I think it's jsut the way the different machines do the animations for opening and closing windows and things. I think the ones on the mac are smoother, and the ones on windows just kinda snap into place.

 

[shabby]

I think the single button mouse is slowing down the gui, no?

 

[Kenazo]

and I'm on a PowerBook G4 667 with 1GB of RAM and 10.2 feels just fine...except for #@%#$$ IE. There is something seriously wrong with this program...I hate switching back and forth between IE and Chimera.

I like OS X and good for you if you don't. I don't really care.

 

[Lucky]

run 10.2

 

[oniq]

I believe one of the major differences (drawing wise, anyway) between Mac OS X and Windows 2000, XP, etc. is that Mac OS X application's windows are drawn in the background, then when they pop up they are already drawn to the screen. However, in Windows the application may start faster but the windows are still being drawn onto the screen. I run Mac OS X on my iMac G3 400mhz w/512mb ram, and I don't find the GUI to be slow. Its all a matter of which you like to happen, the application to popup then be drawn, or the application drawn and then popup. I personally could care less, as long as it happens sooner or later .

 

[Ameesh]

windows has full hardware acceleration for the gui being drawn, poor ass osx does not.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
windows has full hardware acceleration for the gui being drawn, poor ass osx does not.

I wont quibble with you (too much ) but I believe quartz extreme does this to some extent.

 

[ultimatebob]

It looks like Apple is "only" charging about $1200 for an extra 1.5GB of memory now in a new G4. The sad thing is that most Mac addicts probably think that is a bargain, when it's really a 100% markup over PC memory prices. Suckers!

 

[Draco]

You could get that extra memory a lot cheaper from Crucial.com....

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: Draco
You could get that extra memory a lot cheaper from Crucial.com....

Crucial.com still has pricing from the great DDR boom of July 2002.

There are cheaper sources. Crucial rates a 256 of PC2100 @ $63 which is $7 higher than market.

-PAB

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
windows has full hardware acceleration for the gui being drawn, poor ass osx does not.

"poor ass osx" is actually a step ahead of Windows. They've already moved to using 3D rendering for the GUI(windows are textures, etc), as opposed to just hardware accelerating the 2D drawing as under Windows.

 

[Phil21]

I'd pay 20-30% over market for crucial rather than other random generic crap that is hit or miss.

Crucial just works. Period.

Not going to take chances with RAM, $20 more now saves a lot of money later when you can't meet an install date because you have no box to deliver since you're waiting on a RAM replacement.

-Phil

 

[kgraeme]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: Ameesh
windows has full hardware acceleration for the gui being drawn, poor ass osx does not.

I wont quibble with you (too much ) but I believe quartz extreme does this to some extent.

Not really. QE just takes some shortcuts and offloads some textures onto OpenGL. It doesn't actually do any true hardware acceleration of the 2D APIs. Basically, it's another example of Apple coded for sh1t on the first attempt and now have something that works like a 1.0 attempt now.

You can read a good overview here.