I'm okay with 3 day per week mail delivery

[IronWing]

I've been reading up on the USPS' budget problems:
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20120928&id=15611621
and I'm okay with going past the loss of Saturday service and going for alternating days service. Half of routes could be M-W-F while the other half could be T-R-Sat. Cuts the number of carriers by half (probably not quite half but by a lot anyway). Given the rise in online transactions the case for six day mail service or even five day service is fading.

I'd rather the USPS maintain the fully funded retirement requirement (and apply a similar standard on all defined benefit plans) for fewer workers than continue with the current work force in an underfunded plan. Underfunded plans will eventually fall back on the taxpayers so it is better to fund the plans now when the benefit of the expense is realized rather than sticking future taxpayers who will not benefit from the expense.

 

[MixMasterTang]

I only check my mailbox a few times a month, or whenever my mail carrier yells at me because he cannot stuff any more junk mail in it.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Every other day service may be acceptable for residential service but, it's unacceptable for businesses.

 

[OutHouse]

Every other day service may be acceptable for residential service but, it's unacceptable for businesses.

this.

 

[LurkerPrime]

Every other day service may be acceptable for residential service but, it's unacceptable for businesses.

If you need everyday pickup/delivery for your business, then just use UPS/FEDEX for the important time sensitive stuff. I dont give a shit if the electric company mails me my bill on monday or a tuesday, its not going to impact when I pay them.

I could go for once a week or twice a month mail delivery to be honest.

 

[xBiffx]

I'm okay with one day a week delivery. As long as it coincides with trash pickup day.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

If you need everyday pickup/delivery for your business, then just use UPS/FEDEX for the important time sensitive stuff. I dont give a shit if the electric company mails me my bill on monday or a tuesday, its not going to impact when I pay them.

I could go for once a week or twice a month mail delivery to be honest.

Every day service is not just important to businesses in order to send mail, it's important for them to be able to receive mail daily. Somehow, I don't believe all of a company's customers will be willing to send their mail by UPS/FEDEX.

 

[IronWing]

I really don't see the issue for businesses. In the worst case scenario there would be a two day delay for door to door mail delivery. A wee bit of planning would knock that down to a single day delay, not that significant relative to the uncertainty in current delivery schedules.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I really don't see the issue for businesses. In the worst case scenario there would be a two day delay for door to door mail delivery. A wee bit of planning would knock that down to a single day delay, not that significant relative to the uncertainty in current delivery schedules.

I agree. However, we're talking about corporate America and time value of money. Anything that disrupts the flow of money is an attack on industry, the American way and, not to mention, quarterly bonuses.

 

[Moonbeam]

A lot of businesses are in homes.

 

[BoberFett]

A lot of businesses are in homes.

But they're evil Republicans evading taxes through home based businesses and should simply be killed. Right Moonie?

 

[OutHouse]

If you need everyday pickup/delivery for your business, then just use UPS/FEDEX for the important time sensitive stuff. I dont give a shit if the electric company mails me my bill on monday or a tuesday, its not going to impact when I pay them.

I could go for once a week or twice a month mail delivery to be honest.

lol are you on drugs?

 

[Infohawk]

I'd rather the USPS maintain the fully funded retirement requirement (and apply a similar standard on all defined benefit plans) for fewer workers than continue with the current work force in an underfunded plan.

That is the problem with these outdated benefits. They're hurting employment and service.

Underfunded plans will eventually fall back on the taxpayers so it is better to fund the plans now when the benefit of the expense is realized rather than sticking future taxpayers who will not benefit from the expense.

That is a fair concern but what the government (read the people) needs to do is push back and change the retirement / compensation package going forward.

 

[Xellos2099]

Can we add the topic on WTH govenment REQUIRE USPS to prepay the health benefit?

 

[lotus503]

or we could just get rid of the absolutely insane requirement for them to pre fund pensions for the next 75 years.

 

[Moonbeam]

But they're evil Republicans evading taxes through home based businesses and should simply be killed. Right Moonie?

You seem to be prone to delusional thinking. I do not, have not, and won't advocate killing anybody. That is wrong and evil. I demonize conservatives that demonize other people. I rely only on truth and the power of speech and the very very very limited power shame has of hypocrites. I think people who own and run their businesses are terrific and there are probably as many who are democratic as republican.

 

[IronWing]

That is the problem with these outdated benefits. They're hurting employment and service.



That is a fair concern but what the government (read the people) needs to do is push back and change the retirement / compensation package going forward.

I don't see defined benefit packages as outdated. The trouble is employers who don't want to fund the commitments they make. I agree that if these plans are to be phased out then it needs to be done in a fashion that honors commitments already made.

 

[hal2kilo]

or we could just get rid of the absolutely insane requirement for them to pre fund pensions for the next 75 years.

:thumbsup:

This was done on purpose to, yes, another conservative agenda, destroy to largest union left in the U.S.

 

[Infohawk]

I don't see defined benefit packages as outdated. The trouble is employers who don't want to fund the commitments they make. I agree that if these plans are to be phased out then it needs to be done in a fashion that honors commitments already made.

Maybe I'm mistaking you with someone else, but I thought you were more conservative. Defined benefit packages are outdated in that they are essentially non-existent in the private sector. At some point you can only grow the pie so much and if you allocate more of the pie to Cadillac retirement plans instead of hiring more workers or keeping service the same, it's no in the best interest of the people.

 

[lotus503]

:thumbsup:

This was done on purpose to, yes, another conservative agenda, destroy to largest union left in the U.S.

Exactly not fooling anyone but conservatives.

 

[Spungo]

If you need everyday pickup/delivery for your business, then just use UPS/FEDEX for the important time sensitive stuff. I dont give a shit if the electric company mails me my bill on monday or a tuesday, its not going to impact when I pay them.

I could go for once a week or twice a month mail delivery to be honest.

My company already does this. I asked for a letter of reference so I could get approved for a loan and they next day shipped it.

Once per week mail would be ok. I live in Washington state where it takes a long time to ship anything. Stuff from California takes 3 to 4 days.

 

[Xecuter]

or we could just get rid of the absolutely insane requirement for them to pre fund pensions for the next 75 years.

yuuupppp

 

[sixone]

I've been reading up on the USPS' budget problems:
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20120928&id=15611621
and I'm okay with going past the loss of Saturday service and going for alternating days service. Half of routes could be M-W-F while the other half could be T-R-Sat. Cuts the number of carriers by half (probably not quite half but by a lot anyway). Given the rise in online transactions the case for six day mail service or even five day service is fading.

I'd rather the USPS maintain the fully funded retirement requirement (and apply a similar standard on all defined benefit plans) for fewer workers than continue with the current work force in an underfunded plan. Underfunded plans will eventually fall back on the taxpayers so it is better to fund the plans now when the benefit of the expense is realized rather than sticking future taxpayers who will not benefit from the expense.

The postal workers union will never allow it. Never.