I'm not impressed with the 9700pro :( UPDATED!

[optimistic]

Originally posted by: element®
Hey Stevie Wonder, nice to see some famous people visiting these boards too. Enjoy your gf2mx.

OMG! That made me laugh! Cause it was so mean!:Q LOL

 

[mcveigh]

OK now I have more problems....when I start UT2003 it locks up then reboots.
this is after I set all the game details to their highest. including brightness and contrast.

I updated the bios to the latest, used the latest drivers from the shuttle website. (using the intel ones gave me a SM bus errror in the device manager)

I have the monitor connected via the dbi->vga adapter. (before I had it connected via the 2nd vga adapter).

It also locked up earlier while running the windows 3D screen saver. I had to do a hard reset.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[FishTankX]

Try a different set of drivers like the 2.4 or the 2.3 catalysts.

 

[warrenpeace]

"Try a different set of drivers like the 2.4 or the 2.3 catalysts"

Use the 2.3 or the 2.5 (released dec 10th). The 2.4 driver has all kinds of issues. Tigerwoods 2002 had the whole course under water and you couldn't see the golfer with the 2.4... And thats just one example (my 75 yr old dad likes golf games and i have fun playing against him, so no flames now !

I had a GF2mx in my first computer. dumped it for a radeon 64ddr, and saw a HUGE improvement in visual quality and frame rates. I swapped that for an ATI 8500, and again, huge difference. The 9700 was an even bigger jump in quality and speed.

If you see no real difference in games between the gf2mx and a 9700, it is time to dig out the torque wrench and tighten the nut behind the keyboard to factory specs.

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: mcveigh
well I got the new system together.

P4 2.4B w/533 bus
256MBcrucial ram
80GB wd SE hard drive 8mb cache
9700 pro
xppro w/ sp1
845ge chipset

SO I downloaded the UT2003 demo.
I set all setting to their highest in the display settings.
then I set the game settings to their highest.

I tried 1600x1200x32 but the screen was jerky and big white squares were everywhere.
if I set it to 16bit color it ran fine or any lower resolution.

Hey mcveigh,

Which motherboard are you using and did you install the drivers for it? That may be one cause, but other than that, UT2K3 should be running like dream on that rig.

Let us know.

 

[mcveigh]

it's a shuttle mobo. comes with their tiny SFF pc's it's an intel 845ge chipset

well I ran the 2.4 drivers and didn't lock up in UT2003, I saw a few screen errors at high res. but no lockups.
I'll keep testing it but it looks like drivers to me.

link to shuttle description

 

[Sid59]

have you tried deleting all the REG entries for the old Nvidia card and uninstall the current ATI drivers and it's reg?

Have you tried what i suggested up above?

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: mcveigh
well I got the new system together.

P4 2.4B w/533 bus
256MBcrucial ram
80GB wd SE hard drive 8mb cache
9700 pro
xppro w/ sp1
845ge chipset

SO I downloaded the UT2003 demo.
I set all setting to their highest in the display settings.
then I set the game settings to their highest.

I tried 1600x1200x32 but the screen was jerky and big white squares were everywhere.
if I set it to 16bit color it ran fine or any lower resolution.

Sounds like your onboard Intel Graphics may still be turned on in the BIOS. I had mine on when I first installed my 8500 and it cut scores in half for benchmarks. Go into the BIOS and make sure onboard video memory has no memory shared to it and set it from onboard to AGP initial boot video. Just make sure nothing that looks like it may have to deal with onboard video is turned on pretty much.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: mcveigh
it's a shuttle mobo. comes with their tiny SFF pc's it's an intel 845ge chipset

well I ran the 2.4 drivers and didn't lock up in UT2003, I saw a few screen errors at high res. but no lockups.
I'll keep testing it but it looks like drivers to me.

link to shuttle description

Do you happen to see through the floor when using the demo like I do? The textures dissapear for the floors on my 8500 ...they have since even the past 3 driver sets, and yes I do install them correctly.

 

[mcveigh]

I wasn't watching all of them. which one was it?

the floor appeared black at one point in ut2003

 

[mcveigh]

Originally posted by: Sid59
have you tried deleting all the REG entries for the old Nvidia card and uninstall the current ATI drivers and it's reg?

Have you tried what i suggested up above?

it's in the new computer now, no nvidia drivers were ever on this one.

it's doing much better, I can play ut2003 at highest settings, 3dmark completes with out errors. I guess it was the latest drivers.

 

[mcveigh]

OK I just played some ut2003 capture the flag, now I'm impressed I didn't even know there was grass there before!!

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: mcveigh
OK I just played some ut2003 capture the flag, now I'm impressed I didn't even know there was grass there before!!

lol

 

[Telsari]

Hehe, know what you mean! I can barely get anywhere from 20-60 fps on my GF2 MX 400, and that's overclocked... time to get a new card! Thinking about getting a Radeon 8500 LE 128 MB, or a Radeon 9500 Pro 128 MB when it gets cheaper.

 

[FishTankX]

From my personal experience an 8500LE gets from 40-60 in single player with a decent CPU (Personally on a 1.7GHZ Williamette so anything over a 1.4GHZ T-bird should smoke that)

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: obeseotron
The 9700 pro is probably close to 5 times as fast across the board compared to an gf2mx, not noticing a difference is next to impossible.

I'm quite certain this estimate is missing some digits. only 5x faster than a Geforce 2 MX would still make it slower than a plain vanilla GeForce 2.

 

[Mallow]

I just upgraded from a Geforce2 MX 400 to a Geforce4 Ti-4200 and I don't see a whole lotta difference. Besides higher sustained frame rates and a little more detail in UT2k3. I put everything on UT2k3 on highest in an open map and it brought the card to it's knees... not exactly what I expected

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Mallow
I just upgraded from a Geforce2 MX 400 to a Geforce4 Ti-4200 and I don't see a whole lotta difference. Besides higher sustained frame rates and a little more detail in UT2k3. I put everything on UT2k3 on highest in an open map and it brought the card to it's knees... not exactly what I expected

You mean you set the graphics on UT2003 at 1600x1200, highest detail, 16x FSAA, 4x Aniso on a Ti4200? Yeah, that'll definitely bring it to its knees. A 9700 Pro could take it pretty well, though you may get a few framerate dips below 40 on some maps.

 

[Rhombuss]

I won't bother supporting the 9700Pro's superiority over a GF2MX, since that's entirely evident. What I will do is ask when you plan on giving your client his Radeon9700Pro back?

 

[mcveigh]

everything is built, tested, burned in, I'm waiting on newegg to send me the right color memory card reader:| supposed to be black. I finally found a RF wireless keyboard. and I'm wwaiting on a stick of 512mb corsair pc2700 from googlegear. Hopefully by this weekend, I want my money !

 

[Mallow]

actually, I only play games @ 800x600... anything more hurts my eyes for whatever reason... and no not everything was totally maxed out... I put detail @ normal or right above normal, lol... not impressive.

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Mallow
actually, I only play games @ 800x600... anything more hurts my eyes for whatever reason... and no not everything was totally maxed out... I put detail @ normal or right above normal, lol... not impressive.

Okay, then something is very broken. Basically, my original Radeon 32MB DDR gets better performance than that. Go back to the start of this thread, and start following the same suggestions that everybody gave mcveigh for hsi 9700 (proper driver installation, etc, etc)