I'm not gullible, stupid , or an idiot

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gsellis

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
the fact that you tried cashing one from nigeria in the first place...


Read the post. It was drawn on an EAST COAST bank I don't remember the name
But this has been a popular scam for almost 2 years. Overwrite the check and get you to send the refund. Takes about 2 weeks to find out it is bogus. I am surprised your bank does not have a clue either.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: talyn00
Stop trying to defend your actions. The fact is you fell for the scam, and luckily found out before you lost anything. First of all, you never do business with anyone from Nigeria, second you shouldn't accept personal checks, certified money order is probably preferrable, and what really should have raised a red flag is why would anyone pay over twice the amount for something, and trust that you would give them money back as change. And this is why you are an idiot.

Right, and you were aware of the fact your bank can call back a check
"several months" later even though they have told you the check is good.

By the way this means technically no ckeck is ever "good".
 

Indolent

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Originally posted by: talyn00
Stop trying to defend your actions. The fact is you fell for the scam, and luckily found out before you lost anything. First of all, you never do business with anyone from Nigeria, second you shouldn't accept personal checks, certified money order is probably preferrable, and what really should have raised a red flag is why would anyone pay over twice the amount for something, and trust that you would give them money back as change. And this is why you are an idiot.



Yeah, I don't see how he could have even remotely thought that this was legitimate.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
the fact that you tried cashing one from nigeria in the first place...


Read the post. It was drawn on an EAST COAST bank I don't remember the name
But this has been a popular scam for almost 2 years. Overwrite the check and get you to send the refund. Takes about 2 weeks to find out it is bogus. I am surprised your bank does not have a clue either.

RIGHT, Bank Of America the second largest bank in the world "doesn't have a clue". Are you serious? Yeah their gullible.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: Indolent
Originally posted by: talyn00
Stop trying to defend your actions. The fact is you fell for the scam, and luckily found out before you lost anything. First of all, you never do business with anyone from Nigeria, second you shouldn't accept personal checks, certified money order is probably preferrable, and what really should have raised a red flag is why would anyone pay over twice the amount for something, and trust that you would give them money back as change. And this is why you are an idiot.



Yeah, I don't see how he could have even remotely thought that this was legitimate.

I didn't think it was legitimate, until my Bank of America told me the check was good. Read the post

 

talyn00

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: talyn00
Stop trying to defend your actions. The fact is you fell for the scam, and luckily found out before you lost anything. First of all, you never do business with anyone from Nigeria, second you shouldn't accept personal checks, certified money order is probably preferrable, and what really should have raised a red flag is why would anyone pay over twice the amount for something, and trust that you would give them money back as change. And this is why you are an idiot.

Right, and you were aware of the fact your bank can call back a check
"several months" later even though they have told you the check is good.

By the way this means technically no ckeck is ever "good".

I'm fully aware of the fact that a bank can reverse a transaction. It happened to my last direct deposit from my last job.
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Indolent
Originally posted by: talyn00
Stop trying to defend your actions. The fact is you fell for the scam, and luckily found out before you lost anything. First of all, you never do business with anyone from Nigeria, second you shouldn't accept personal checks, certified money order is probably preferrable, and what really should have raised a red flag is why would anyone pay over twice the amount for something, and trust that you would give them money back as change. And this is why you are an idiot.



Yeah, I don't see how he could have even remotely thought that this was legitimate.

I didn't think it was legitimate, until my Bank of America told me the check was good. Read the post
You told them the situation, right? If so, your branch sucks.

 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: talyn00
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: talyn00
Stop trying to defend your actions. The fact is you fell for the scam, and luckily found out before you lost anything. First of all, you never do business with anyone from Nigeria, second you shouldn't accept personal checks, certified money order is probably preferrable, and what really should have raised a red flag is why would anyone pay over twice the amount for something, and trust that you would give them money back as change. And this is why you are an idiot.

Right, and you were aware of the fact your bank can call back a check
"several months" later even though they have told you the check is good.

By the way this means technically no ckeck is ever "good".

I'm fully aware of the fact that a bank can reverse a transaction. It happened to my last direct deposit from my last job.

Explain please ....Can you revese transactions? Can I, No.

 

Ranger X

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"Gullible", "Stupid", or "Idiot" is not nearly enough to describe what a moron you are. How long has this African businessman/prince crap been going on? Just give me your money NOW before someone with half a brain scams you first.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: Ranger X
"Gullible", "Stupid", or "Idiot" is not nearly enough to describe what a moron you are. How long has this African businessman/prince crap been going on? Just give me your money NOW before someone with half a brain scams you first.


Shut up you idiot, you don't even know what the point of this topic is.
 

SlowSpyder

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This is an oooold scam, but going around the internet for years now. I can't believe I'd actually ever hear from someone who fell for it. Good luck getting it sorted out, but the warning signs were there... live and learn I guess.
 

dullard

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I would probably put you in the "gullibile" category. Or at least "sheltered". The fact that only a last minute comment by a teller saved you is the proof.

But you still haven't made the link to your original post. You got a $6500 check. You deposited it. A couple weeks later, it was no good. However, in your original post you asked about someone who "decided to not accept the funds". Clearly it wasn't you who "decided to not accept the funds", it was the bank who said it was no good.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
This is an oooold scam, but going around the internet for years now. I can't believe I'd actually ever hear from someone who fell for it. Good luck getting it sorted out, but the warning signs were there... live and learn I guess.

Get what sorted out? Can't you read. It already is sorted out..............

I immediately had the Money order voided and that was the end of it
I lost nothing.

epilogue: 2 weeks later I get a notice from my bank that the check was indeed counterfeit and the 6,500.00 was taken back. Back where I started from. I finaly sold my kart up in San Jose cal several months later for 900.00
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: dullard
I would probably put you in the "gullibile" category. Or at least "sheltered". The fact that only a last minute comment by a teller saved you is the proof.

But you still haven't made the link to your original post. You got a $6500 check. You deposited it. A couple weeks later, it was no good. However, in your original post you asked about someone who "decided to not accept the funds". Clearly it wasn't you who "decided to not accept the funds", it was the bank who said it was no good.


Here 's why it is linked...When my bank told me the check was good and in fact showed me the money deposited in my account I would never question them. Would you? Therefore I would not tell them NO I DON"T TRUST YOU, AND I WILL NOT ACCEPT THE FUNDS. Would you?
 

ManyBeers

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Well so far out of 41 votes we have 37 no and 4 yes votes. Itseems to me it is pretty obvious to me that most people believe when their bank says a check is good they believe it without question. And why shouldn't they?

And the yes votes won't explain themselves so I am skeptical of those votes.
 

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SampSon
So the check was counterfeit, everything has been resolved, and you posted this thread long after the fact?

What is the question here?

I don't know were you aware of the fact that your bank can call back a check on you "months" after you have used the funds and you are responsible EVEN THOUGH YUOR OWN BANK TOLD YOU MONTHS EALI
NOT ONLY WAS THE CHECK GOOD BUT YOU CLEARLY SAW THE FUNDS IN YOUR ACCT>? Youknew this. I don't believe you if you say you did.
Are you 15, do you need all caps and condescending remarks to get your point across?

Yes I knew this and frankly I don't give a sh!t if you believe me or not.

Funds in your account mean nothing when a federal crime is involved. Funds in your account really don't mean a damned thing. The ISSUING bank must clear the check, not just your bank. Of course you knew that, but I wouldn't believe you even if you say you did. :roll:

Even small potatos stuff such as the scams people pull through paypal would show you the same result.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: kranky
Not accepting the funds means not depositing the check.



NO it is not the same thing. "Not accepting" the funds means after depositing the check and having your bank declare it valid and crediting you account with the funds, you decide not to trust what their telling you and THEN refuse the funds.
 

MrChad

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http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp

From the bank's perspective, the check did appear to clear. That is the brilliance of this scam. The check itself is a forgery, and it usually takes a few weeks before the bank becomes aware of it. Meanwhile, you've paid the scammer and are out a couple of grand.

The scam works because the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC) requires banks to make money from cashier's, certified, or teller's checks available in one to five days. Consequently, funds from checks that might not be good are often released into payees' accounts long before the checks have been honored by their issuing banks. High quality forgeries can be bounced back and forth between banks for weeks before anyone catches on to their being worthless, by which time victims have long since wired the "overpayments" to the con artists who have just taken them for a ride.

The moral of the story: don't accept cashier's checks for anonymous transactions.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SampSon
So the check was counterfeit, everything has been resolved, and you posted this thread long after the fact?

What is the question here?

I don't know were you aware of the fact that your bank can call back a check on you "months" after you have used the funds and you are responsible EVEN THOUGH YUOR OWN BANK TOLD YOU MONTHS EALI
NOT ONLY WAS THE CHECK GOOD BUT YOU CLEARLY SAW THE FUNDS IN YOUR ACCT>? Youknew this. I don't believe you if you say you did.
Are you 15, do you need all caps and condescending remarks to get your point across?

Yes I knew this and frankly I don't give a sh!t if you believe me or not.

Funds in your account mean nothing when a federal crime is involved. Funds in your account really don't mean a damned thing.

Even small potatos stuff such as the scams people pull through paypal would show you the same result.

I don't believe you.
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I will show relevance soon

And you didn't "show relevance" in the original post because...?

Because attention is fun?

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
OK this is what my question was about:

I lived in Las Vegas, Nev. From April 2003-April 2004, one year..... I finaly sold my kart up in San Jose cal several months later for 900.00
Originally posted by: trinketsummoner
I would disagree with your topic title
 

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SampSon
So the check was counterfeit, everything has been resolved, and you posted this thread long after the fact?

What is the question here?

I don't know were you aware of the fact that your bank can call back a check on you "months" after you have used the funds and you are responsible EVEN THOUGH YUOR OWN BANK TOLD YOU MONTHS EALI
NOT ONLY WAS THE CHECK GOOD BUT YOU CLEARLY SAW THE FUNDS IN YOUR ACCT>? Youknew this. I don't believe you if you say you did.
Are you 15, do you need all caps and condescending remarks to get your point across?

Yes I knew this and frankly I don't give a sh!t if you believe me or not.

Funds in your account mean nothing when a federal crime is involved. Funds in your account really don't mean a damned thing.

Even small potatos stuff such as the scams people pull through paypal would show you the same result.

I don't believe you.
READ!
This has been posted numerous times.

Since you're obviously unable to read or comprehend english I'll quote this for you.

The scam works because the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC) requires banks to make money from cashier's, certified, or teller's checks available in one to five days. Consequently, funds from checks that might not be good are often released into payees' accounts long before the checks have been honored by their issuing banks. High quality forgeries can be bounced back and forth between banks for weeks before anyone catches on to their being worthless, by which time victims have long since wired the "overpayments" to the con artists who have just taken them for a ride.

If you accept a cashier's check as payment for something you have sold or rented, make sure it has cleared the issuing bank before you refund any money or surrender possession of the vended item. It may take two to three weeks for the banking system to determine the check is counterfeit, so even if the funds look like they're available (and even if your bank tells you they are), hold onto whatever it was you sold and the funds you received for it for three weeks.

What you believe is irrelevant because you've proven yourself to be a complete dolt, incapable of reading your own thread, comprehending what people are saying in your thread, and thinking "hey, mabey I really don't know what I'm talking about".

Now stfu and sit down.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: MrChad
http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp

"From the bank's perspective, the check did appear to clear."

That's funny, then why did they tell me It was good? Isn't that kind of a way for a bank to defraud it's own customers.

Did you read my post? The check cleared. The bank has to make the funds available in 1-5 days according FDIC regulations. So the funds are released to your account before the check is honored by the issuing bank. This is how cashier's checks work. And yes, it is VERY susceptible to fraud.