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Im Not A Bush Hater

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Pelinor, your arguments are childish and so completely right-winged biased I often wonder if you are being serious with us or not. Anyways, back on topic, so far there is nothing that anyone can agree on other than going after the Taliban that Bush has done right. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. The fact that someone made a movie hating on our president, and that the movie was #1 in the box office, means a lot and shows how badly Bush has messed up. He's literally turned our country against each other.
 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
The fact that someone made a movie hating on our president, and that the movie was #1 in the box office, means a lot and shows how badly Bush has messed up.
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Yes, they sure chose a competitive weekend on which to release the film. No deliberate planning to inflate the impact of the movie there. :roll: What was second? Dodgeball? LOL.

All that movie proves is that pandering to partisan hatred is profitable. Hell, I may get in on the action and make some easy money with some anti-Bush T-Shirts or something.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
The fact that someone made a movie hating on our president, and that the movie was #1 in the box office, means a lot and shows how badly Bush has messed up.
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Yes, they sure chose a competitive weekend on which to release the film. No deliberate planning to inflate the impact of the movie there. :roll: What was second? Dodgeball? LOL.

All that movie proves is that pandering to partisan hatred is profitable. Hell, I may get in on the action and make some easy money with some anti-Bush T-Shirts or something.
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Nah, actually White Chicks was number 2 and Dodgeball #3 (I believe?)..but you should consider that Fahrenheit 9/11 opened in ~850 theaters, as opposed to its competitors which had 3 times the screens. Fact of the matter is people wanted to see it and they did; breaking a number of records on the way.
 
re: Sudheer Anne

I'm not so sure everyone agrees we should have gone after the Taliban. (You all know where I stand on that.)

Bush has also set forth some education initiatives. Schools are now being held to a higher standard. It's about time they were held accountable.

someone else also mentioned earlier about the prescription coverage for senior citizens. But I know, you probably think that's a terrible thing too.

In regards to Moore's film: as stated, it was a non competitive weekend, but I agree even at that, it did well. However, don't assume that everyone who went hates Bush and agrees with it. A lot of people will show up to see any controversial movie (including reporters and media personnel) just to see what all the fuss is about). Hey, a lot of people went to see Blair Witch Project which was a horrible movie. For those who did go to see it, most of them already hated him anyway and felt obligated to join in on the party. It seems to be the "in thing" to hate Bush. You see all the celebrities on TV showing up for it. In the beautiful people's world, you're nobody if you haven't taken a stab at Bush.

Turned our country against each other? Have you followed past presidential elections? Past wars (like Viet Nam)? Actually, any time there?s war, there are strong oppositions.

As far as - Clinton, Clinton republicans take responsibility...
What's that about?
 
Originally posted by: DeMeo

Bush has also set forth some education initiatives. Schools are now being held to a higher standard. It's about time they were held accountable.
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Hmm, but no money to pay for all these wonderful initiatives...

Guess that's why we need yearly double digit property tax increases...

someone else also mentioned earlier about the prescription coverage for senior citizens. But I know, you probably think that's a terrible thing too.
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Steaming pile of rubbish...only ones that benefit are the card issuers and the drug companies (surprise surprise...people actually figured that out by themselves)
 
re: education / double digit tax hikes

You have double digit property tax increases? Where are you living?
Besides, I thought liberals were FOR tax increases.

re: presicription benefits for seniors

So, seniors will not get part of their prescription costs paid for?
 
Originally posted by: TheSiege
isnt he the one that sent it into a downword spiral to begin with?
he entered the office with highest US economy ever, now look at us
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I've gathered from your few responses that you are ignorant of the facts. No, he did not send the economy into a downward spiral. He inherited a recession, and that is an undisputable fact. We were then hit with the 9/11 attacks, which put off any potential recovery. No, we were not removed from the human rights commission. We withdrew because Libya and Sudan are on it, which is like having Adolph Hitler on an anti-semitism commission. We avoid the Human Rights Court because it would be a favorite tool by our enemies for politically motivated prosecutions, which is evident because someone has already tried to indict Bush for war crimes or some silly sh!t like that.

And why do you bother posting a post like this?? You arent hoping to learn anything new, you are looking for reinforcements for an obvious anti-Bush position youve already taken.
 
Originally posted by: cougarls88
Originally posted by: DeMeo

Bush has also set forth some education initiatives. Schools are now being held to a higher standard. It's about time they were held accountable.
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Hmm, but no money to pay for all these wonderful initiatives...
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The one I know of is just not passing kids who don't meet requirements to the next grade. I'm not sure dumping money on schools will get kids to pay attention and do their work, but I understand that's the liberals answer for everything...dump money on it and hope it fixes itself.
 
re: money = better schooling

I can't speak for the rest of the country, but wher I live (NH) we've had a school funding crisis for a few years now. I don't have the exact figures on hand, but when the governers office a few years ago came up with a "$ per student" figure that they were using to base funding on. Well, I can tell you that there are a number of private schools that have very good results and the tuition is substantially lower than the state's "per child" figure. I don't see why the public schools can not provide an equal eduction for near the same amount.
 
Originally posted by: DeMeo
re: money = better schooling

I can't speak for the rest of the country, but wher I live (NH) we've had a school funding crisis for a few years now. I don't have the exact figures on hand, but when the governers office a few years ago came up with a "$ per student" figure that they were using to base funding on. Well, I can tell you that there are a number of private schools that have very good results and the tuition is substantially lower than the state's "per child" figure. I don't see why the public schools can not provide an equal eduction for near the same amount.
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Here in Cleveland, at least back when my aunt worked in the Cleveland public school system, they had made series of deals with the unions that totally screwed the system up. In return for political support during campaigns for new levies, the unions got progressively better contracts (I'm talking about unions besides the teachers union, the janitors, electricians, plumbers, etc). For example, my aunt could not change a light bulb. She had to call it in to the office at her grade school, who would call a union electrician, who would change the bulb. But it was in their contract that no matter how long it took to do whatever the school wanted done, they'd get paid 8 hours minimum.

The unions f***ing own the Cleveland school system to the point that it isnt even funny anymore.
 
Fahrenheit 9/11 opened in 1/3 as many theaters as its competition. It still made $21 million in its opening weekend. That is DAMN impressive for a documentary. geez the Repub. will try and spin anything.
 
In America money means more then our freedom, this is why it is so corrupted today. Scam are instantaneous; just so those who work their ass off just to get by have to be slaves to those who made money illigimately. I'm tired of being a sheep who can never save for the future; believing that investment is a an easy way to make more money with very little work. I'm very tired of being brainwashed, tired of being lied to; the end.
 
Originally posted by: DeMeo
Bush has also set forth some education initiatives. Schools are now being held to a higher standard. It's about time they were held accountable.
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Oh yeah, in my state (VA), we now have Standard of Learning tests (SOLs - Acronym fits very well for some kids) that students have to pass or they do not graduate. Now, in addition to AP tests and exams, we now have standardized testing to waste parent's money and student's/teacher's time.

I remember hearing from teachers: Oh, I'm sorry, we can't cover that very interesting life-changing topic, we have to stick to the SOL curriculum so that everyone passes the test and my ass doesn't look bad.

Isn't standardized testing just great?
 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Fahrenheit 9/11 opened in 1/3 as many theaters as its competition. It still made $21 million in its opening weekend. That is DAMN impressive for a documentary.
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Well it had a few weeks of 24/7 coverage by the liberal media to give it just a teensy weensy bit of publicity.

geez the Repub. will try and spin anything.
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I find it amazing that you managed to use the phrase "Fahrenheit 9/11" and the word "spin" in the same post and somehow kept them out of the same sentence and did it with a straight face.
 
red: taliban still there and saddam loyalsts still there


Yeah, and nazis are still ther ein Germany. What's your point? Did you think every single one of them would be captured and/or killed immediatley?
 
Originally posted by: DeMeo
red: taliban still there and saddam loyalsts still there


Yeah, and nazis are still ther ein Germany. What's your point? Did you think every single one of them would be captured and/or killed immediatley?
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The Taliban are a serious matter, being quite strong, the Saddam Loyalists are harder to account for, but wouldn't be surprised if Actions increase in Iraq as Saddam gets more exposure in the near future.
 
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