I'm no Michael Moore fan but...

[Homerboy]

... this should be entertaining nonetheless

http://theweek.com/speedreads/65598...mp-didnt-tell-anyone-getting-released-tonight

The 73-minute surprise release, titled Michael Moore in Trumpland, is "an iteration of Moore's one-man play, which he had hoped to perform at a central Ohio theater" before it was allegedly banned for being too controversial, The Hollywood Reporter reports. The synopsis says: "See the film Ohio Republicans tried to shut down. Oscar-winner Michael Moore dives right into hostile territory with his daring and hilarious one-man show, deep in the heart of Trumpland in the weeks before the 2016 election."

Although New Yorkers will be able to watch the film for free at the IFC Center on Tuesday night, Michael Moore in Trumpland starts its regular run on Wednesday,Indiewire reports. Further details about where it will be released or on what platforms have not yet been made available.

 

[cbrunny]

This sounds awful, regardless of your team. Michael Moore should just stop.

 

[Muse]

I hope this will be on Youtube, free of course, and I imagine it will be quite entertaining, timely and informative. The maker of Bowling for Columbine, Sicko and Roger & Me deserves his shot at Trump mania. He'd probably make one on the Flint water crisis but it would just turn everybody's stomach, it would be so depressing.

 

[glenn1]

I'm guessing "allegedly banned for being too controversial" is a euphemism for "no one came to see it" but either way bully to him for making the film. Not my cup of tea but hopefully someone is entertained by it.

 

[Muse]

I'm guessing "allegedly banned for being too controversial" is a euphemism for "no one came to see it" but either way bully to him for making the film. Not my cup of tea but hopefully someone is entertained by it.

I'm not looking for a cup of tea in a documentary. Films are not just about entertainment, same for books, performance art, other art forms. Speaking for myself, whenever I see footage or pictures of the folks who go to Trump rallies I look/watch, I'm very very curious and try to figure out what kind of person goes to these things! Myself, I would not consider attending an event which headlined DT. Completely anathema, I think I would be revolted. I'm quite sure, in fact. Still, I'm curious who goes, what are they thinking? How can they stand being surrounded by people equally clueless? A documentary about this very subject would be ideal for me. Would I go to a theater and pay money to see it? NO! Would I access it for free on Youtube, you bet!

 

[Starbuck1975]

I'm not looking for a cup of tea in a documentary. Films are not just about entertainment, same for books, performance art, other art forms. Speaking for myself, whenever I see footage or pictures of the folks who go to Trump rallies I look/watch, I'm very very curious and try to figure out what kind of person goes to these things! Myself, I would not consider attending an event which headlined DT. Completely anathema, I think I would be revolted. I'm quite sure, in fact. Still, I'm curious who goes, what are they thinking? How can they stand being surrounded by people equally clueless? A documentary about this very subject would be ideal for me. Would I go to a theater and pay money to see it? NO! Would I access it for free on Youtube, you bet!

So you are looking for cleverly and inteligently edited footage to validate and confirm your existing bias by a documentary filmaker that probably shares that same bias.

If your intent is to truly understand, report back not on what the people are saying, but go one step further to understand what is driving their emotion.

Or you can just look to history. Typically, when you ignore large demographics of the population and allow their frustration to fester and evolve into anger, eventually someone is going to come along and tap into, exploit and radicalize that anger.

 

[sportage]

Too controversial?
Sounds awful?
Turn everybody's stomach?

Sounds just like Donald Trump to me. Real life.

 

[Genx87]

That damn citizens united decision.

/sarcasm

 

[1prophet]

So you are looking for cleverly and inteligently edited footage to validate and confirm your existing bias by a documentary filmaker that probably shares that same bias.

If your intent is to truly understand, report back not on what the people are saying, but go one step further to understand what is driving their emotion.

Or you can just look to history. Typically, when you ignore large demographics of the population and allow their frustration to fester and evolve into anger, eventually someone is going to come along and tap into, exploit and radicalize that anger.

Ding, ding, ding, and we have a winner, but it is much easier to demonize than understand, especially from those that consider themselves superior to the "little people" .

 

[dank69]

Ding, ding, ding, and we have a winner, but it is much easier to demonize than understand, especially from those that consider themselves superior to the "little people" .

What exactly should we do to prevent their frustrations from festering?

 

[Starbuck1975]

What exactly should we do to prevent their frustrations from festering?

Engage rather than dismiss. Listen rather than demonize.

 

[Jaskalas]

An interesting case study, that one.

MICHAEL MOORE: 'I hope she did kill Vince Foster! That's bad ass!'...

 

[glenn1]

What exactly should we do to prevent their frustrations from festering?

Well, actually listening to them rather than just preemptively saying "you're voting against your own self-interests" would be a good start. Not prejudging their motivations would be another, and not trying to instantly invalidate any concerns they do share would be a third. Needless to say both sides are fairly poor at this on some issues, for example the right is terrible in actually hearing and constructively addressing concerns like access to healthcare or LGBT rights, and the left is terrible on things like immigration or reform for programs like education or social welfare. For some reason you can see how the "festering frustrations" works when we're talking about police brutality against blacks, but when you flip it to concerns about immigration suddenly that frustration is invalidated as simply the byproduct of "racists angry about changing demographics." How do you think the left would react if the right's first reaction and ongoing response to black concerns was "well you're just criminals angry about law enforcement doing their best to lower crime rates."

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This sounds awful, regardless of your team. Michael Moore should just stop.

I agree, its OK to make a Political film, its OK for that film to be partisan however to me its not OK to make a partisan film and air it right before the election. This applies to both sides.

 

[glenn1]

I agree, its OK to make a Political film, its OK for that film to be partisan however to me its not OK to make a partisan film and air it right before the election. This applies to both sides.

Why do you feel that way? Free speech doesn't end a certain amount of days before an election. And a film, no matter who made it or what the subject is, won't kidnap you and force you to watch by propping open your eyelids or hold a gun to your head and demand you vote for different candidate than the one you prefer.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Why do you feel that way? Free speech doesn't end a certain amount of days before an election. And a film, no matter who made it or what the subject is, won't kidnap you and force you to watch by propping open your eyelids or hold a gun to your head and demand you vote for different candidate than the one you prefer.

The timing is tacky that is all. He could have released it earlier or later. No it doesn't need regulation.

 

[glenn1]

The timing is tacky that is all. He could have released it earlier or later. No it doesn't need regulation.

Gotcha. With discussions like this it's hard to know sometimes whether objections are personal opinion or a desire to take action. I understand his timing though because interest in the Trump phenomena is a perishable commodity that will has a high probability of reaching it's sell-by date three weeks hence. After that his documentary is likely to have as much relevance as one concerning Milli Vanilli or leisure suits.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Gotcha. With discussions like this it's hard to know sometimes whether objections are personal opinion or a desire to take action. I understand his timing though because interest in the Trump phenomena is a perishable commodity that will has a high probability of reaching it's sell-by date three weeks hence. After that his documentary is likely to have as much relevance as one concerning Milli Vanilli or leisure suits.

I look forward to the reports of what happens inside his strategy sessions and all the back stabbing that seems to occur in his organization. They'll all have to have their voices & identity concealed due to being sued but I think it could be real interesting stuff on what to do and what not to do.

 

[shortylickens]

Michael Moore is almost always full of shit, so I dont see myself jumping thru hoops to watch his newest film.
Having said that, Trump definitely needs to be made fun of, but thats why we have Johnny Depp.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I can't think of a single instance in which Michael Moore's films have helped one iota in furthering whatever cause he was advancing. It's not as though Kerry enjoyed any apparent benefit as a result of Fahrenheit 9/11 (which was made with the specific intent of spoiling Bush's re-election bid). I expect the major reason for this "surprise" release is that he couldn't get financing to release it in a more conventional manner.

 

[Muse]

So you are looking for cleverly and inteligently edited footage to validate and confirm your existing bias by a documentary filmaker that probably shares that same bias.

If your intent is to truly understand, report back not on what the people are saying, but go one step further to understand what is driving their emotion.

Or you can just look to history. Typically, when you ignore large demographics of the population and allow their frustration to fester and evolve into anger, eventually someone is going to come along and tap into, exploit and radicalize that anger.

I didn't say any such thing. I'm looking to discover who they are, what they think, how they got that way... what is the makeup of the DT constituency, at least the ones that actually go to his rallies. I'm curious. Your comments are disrespectful.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I didn't say any such thing. I'm looking to discover who they are, what they think, how they got that way... what is the makeup of the DT constituency, at least the ones that actually go to his rallies. I'm curious. Your comments are disrespectful.

You won't learn those things from edited footage of Michael Moore talking to himself on stage. I apologize if my comment was disrespectful. I interpreted your original post as somewhat facetious and disingenuous. If your intent is genuine, then I was incorrect.

 

[dank69]

Engage rather than dismiss. Listen rather than demonize.

How about you try that with a conservative and let us know how that works out for you.

 

[Starbuck1975]

How about you try that with a conservative and let us know how that works out for you.

It actually worked out rather well.
I did a one year rotation in probably the most rural of rural red states, in a dry county no less, where weekly life revolved around church, wall-mart and all you can eat buffets.

What I learned is that evangelical conservatives are very nice people, have a strong sense of community and are not that much different than people from blue states. They feel economically anandoned, live in largely homogenous communities which limits their perspective, and were it not for topics like guns, gay marriage and abortion, I would otherwise prefer them as neighbors to their eliticist pseudo intellectual urban liberal counterparts

 

[VRAMdemon]

Another useless propaganda film money grab just like Dinesh D'Souza "Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party,"