I'm hoping to race my cousin this summer

[jlee]

(at a 1/4 mile drag strip with tree/etc)

Me-
'91 Toyota MR2 Turbo
JDM engine (more aggressive ECU), CT20B turbocharger @ 15psi (will probably run 16psi on the track), intake/downpipe/intercooler/exhaust, clutch, LSD transmission, 225 series rear tires

Him-
'92 Ford Mustang LX 5.0
Chip, K&N, 3.73s (I think- maybe 3.55s), Flowmasters, x-pipe (I think- not sure on that), posi, 285 series rear tires

I'm thinking I might jump off the line, but I don't know about the top end...neither of us have ran these cars at a track before. I might have a slight advantage in that I've made a couple/few dozen 1/4mi passes a few years ago, and I don't think he has..but that's not much other than timing the launch, which doesn't really matter for straight ETs!

 

[sjwaste]

I'd put your car somewhere in the 13s if you're a good driver, and if you can hook up off the dump.

Without knowing what his chip is doing, its hard to say. You'd certainly take a stock 5.0, but it's hard to tell what he has.

 

[angry hampster]

If he had heads or a cam I'd see he would win. I think you may take it if you can run 15-16psi though.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: sjwaste
I'd put your car somewhere in the 13s if you're a good driver, and if you can hook up off the dump.

Without knowing what his chip is doing, its hard to say. You'd certainly take a stock 5.0, but it's hard to tell what he has.

The slowest car in the MR2 quarter mile registry with a CT20B ran a 13.704, so I'm hoping to be well into the 13s, possibly high 12s if I had some DR's, cool weather and a perfect run. I have no idea what he'll do, though. I don't believe he has any head work or cams, but he will have a Zex nitrous setup in a couple of weeks..probably a 100 shot. I don't think I'll have much of a chance if he sprays..but off the bottle, maybe?

I might be able to find another MR2 guy down there who might be able to lend me a pair of drag radials..that would help. :evil:

 

[MBrown]

Are you going to racing at the dragway in epping?

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: MBrown
Are you going to racing at the dragway in epping?

I'm planning on it this summer - a buddy of mine has an '05 Legacy GT..should be a good run. 😀

My cousin is in NJ, so I'll probably be in NJ or PA for that.

 

[CurseTheSky]

Why hasn't he done more with the 5.0? They're cheap and easy to build up.

The exhaust work is really simple but doesn't add a ton of power (IIRC Flowmasters are better for sound than power); the shorter gears and posi will help a great deal, and nitrous will definitely give him the advantage IMO (as long as he doesn't blow the thing apart). Intake, cam, heads, and a stroker kit are relatively cheap and would make the thing into a beast.

It sounds to me like it all depends on whether or not he's actually running nitrous.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky
Why hasn't he done more with the 5.0? They're cheap and easy to build up.

The exhaust work is really simple but doesn't add a ton of power (IIRC Flowmasters are better for sound than power); the shorter gears and posi will help a great deal, and nitrous will definitely give him the advantage IMO (as long as he doesn't blow the thing apart). Intake, cam, heads, and a stroker kit are relatively cheap and would make the thing into a beast.

It sounds to me like it all depends on whether or not he's actually running nitrous.

He had a complete motor all priced out and ready to go (worked heads, etc), but ended up with other financial concerns to deal with. I'm sure it'll happen eventually - he has a fresh shortblock waiting for heads/cam.

With a reprogrammed ECU, more fuel (pump/rail/injectors/regulator) and better tires, I should be well into the 12s - just can't rationalize spending that much money now, and I imagine it's a similar situation that he's in. 😛

 

[zerocool84]

Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

I'm trying to see if I can borrow a set of drag radials from someone down there.

I've done a quasi-launch...drop the clutch from about 4k - I get a couple chirps, brief wheel hop and I'm off. Having the engine sitting on top of the drive wheels helps a little- but yeah, I'd definitely do better with wide sticky tires.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

I'm trying to see if I can borrow a set of drag radials from someone down there.

I've done a quasi-launch...drop the clutch from about 4k - I get a couple chirps, brief wheel hop and I'm off. Having the engine sitting on top of the drive wheels helps a little- but yeah, I'd definitely do better with wide sticky tires.

Not quite. Other wise your car wouldn't handle the way it does. 😉

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

I'm trying to see if I can borrow a set of drag radials from someone down there.

I've done a quasi-launch...drop the clutch from about 4k - I get a couple chirps, brief wheel hop and I'm off. Having the engine sitting on top of the drive wheels helps a little- but yeah, I'd definitely do better with wide sticky tires.

Not quite. Other wise your car wouldn't handle the way it does. 😉

Figure of speech. 😛

 

[Saga]

Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

Now thats just downright unfair and we both know it. =(

Actually. Sure. As long as I can ride my turbo'd ZX10R.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

Now thats just downright unfair and we both know it. =(

Actually. Sure. As long as I can ride my turbo'd ZX10R.

Deal.

 

[lsd]

Get a set of full slicks and cut some good 60ft's and hope he just spins at the line..
Good luck 🙂

 

[SSSnail]

You should at least get a set of 265's for the rears IMO, one of my friend has almost the same setup as you do, except he's running 14PSI and a wet ethanol injection kit. He had it tuned but hasn't complete his car yet so I can't tell you what his actual time is, but he's pushing 400 on the dyno.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

I'm trying to see if I can borrow a set of drag radials from someone down there.

I've done a quasi-launch...drop the clutch from about 4k - I get a couple chirps, brief wheel hop and I'm off. Having the engine sitting on top of the drive wheels helps a little- but yeah, I'd definitely do better with wide sticky tires.

MR2's hook up pretty well, even on street tires, IMHO. That 58% weight in the rear definitely helps.

My brother in law's MR2 timeslip, when using cheap little walmart tires:

Right Lane

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

Same lame shit I hear from ricers when I bring the Buick out. Well guess what? There's many that do indeed autox the big old Buicks, and yes, you may be a bit faster in the twisties, but ya better hope there's not a lot of straights.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

Now thats just downright unfair and we both know it. =(

Actually. Sure. As long as I can ride my turbo'd ZX10R.

Well, that would be closer but I'd still put my money on him if he knows how to drive...especially if it's a tight twisty course.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

I'm trying to see if I can borrow a set of drag radials from someone down there.

I've done a quasi-launch...drop the clutch from about 4k - I get a couple chirps, brief wheel hop and I'm off. Having the engine sitting on top of the drive wheels helps a little- but yeah, I'd definitely do better with wide sticky tires.

MR2's hook up pretty well, even on street tires, IMHO. That 58% weight in the rear definitely helps.

My brother in law's MR2 timeslip, when using cheap little walmart tires:

Right Lane

Wow...he could drop half a second off of his 60' easily...

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

Same lame shit I hear from ricers when I bring the Buick out. Well guess what? There's many that do indeed autox the big old Buicks, and yes, you may be a bit faster in the twisties, but ya better hope there's not a lot of straights.

Oh look, an American-car-elitist!

Any points you gain by driving a fast Buick (GN?) is negated by your automatic assumption that because I drive a Toyota, I'm a ricer. 😛

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

Now thats just downright unfair and we both know it. =(

Actually. Sure. As long as I can ride my turbo'd ZX10R.

Well, that would be closer but I'd still put my money on him if he knows how to drive...especially if it's a tight twisty course.

shhh. 😛

 

[SSSnail]

Hey, NASCAR is racing too, it has four corners...

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

I'm trying to see if I can borrow a set of drag radials from someone down there.

I've done a quasi-launch...drop the clutch from about 4k - I get a couple chirps, brief wheel hop and I'm off. Having the engine sitting on top of the drive wheels helps a little- but yeah, I'd definitely do better with wide sticky tires.

MR2's hook up pretty well, even on street tires, IMHO. That 58% weight in the rear definitely helps.

My brother in law's MR2 timeslip, when using cheap little walmart tires:

Right Lane

Wow...he could drop half a second off of his 60' easily...

Yea that 60' isn't good at all. See what Walmart tires gets you?

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Saga
Lets go to the strip. My 1500 Sierra weighs in at 5400 lbs with 4.54s and is pushing 750hp/902ft-lbs on only 8 lbs of boost.

After the strip, let's hit the autox course. 😀

Same lame shit I hear from ricers when I bring the Buick out. Well guess what? There's many that do indeed autox the big old Buicks, and yes, you may be a bit faster in the twisties, but ya better hope there's not a lot of straights.

Oh look, an American-car-elitist!

Any points you gain by driving a fast Buick (GN?) is negated by your automatic assumption that because I drive a Toyota, I'm a ricer. 😛

Hey don't worry about that one. I drive a turbo Neon and I'm called a ricer too. No biggie.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Biggest problem for you would be trying to hook up on street tires.

I'm trying to see if I can borrow a set of drag radials from someone down there.

I've done a quasi-launch...drop the clutch from about 4k - I get a couple chirps, brief wheel hop and I'm off. Having the engine sitting on top of the drive wheels helps a little- but yeah, I'd definitely do better with wide sticky tires.

MR2's hook up pretty well, even on street tires, IMHO. That 58% weight in the rear definitely helps.

My brother in law's MR2 timeslip, when using cheap little walmart tires:

Right Lane

Wow...he could drop half a second off of his 60' easily...

Yea that 60' isn't good at all. See what Walmart tires gets you?

That's good for those tires. Most cars would be at least 1/2 a second slower than that on those tires. The weight in the back really helps the launch.