I'm gonna kill my subwoofer.

[BennyD]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

A) i know, but polk is not bad and people say its crap, which is not true
B) a friend of mine has a recording studio and he has all of these nifty little gadgets. we got in the car and mounted it on the dashboard in front of us. we left it there for both sets of subs, the average for the polks was about 133-135 and the JL's came in around 126-130 (on the most bass intensive song i could find)
C) exact same amp, exact same settings
D) yes, i know, the box makes ALL the difference, but both subs (in a ported box) only required about 1.5 ft^3 and 1.7 ft^3 (im pretty sure that was it) and the box they were in was pretty dang close to 1.6ft^3 (thats how we designed it for the JL's, it just happened to be a good size for both sets)
E) both sets RMS at 400 a piece
F) both were bridged the same way

owned

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
actually, you morons saying polk is bad, they tend to make pretty good stuff but probably got a bad rap from previous equipment like ibm and the 75gxp, even though the 120 and the 180gxp own the newer WD and maxtor drives....

i had polk subs in my car and they hit harder than some of the JL series (on the same amp in the same box (air space was +- .1ft ^3 to the specs)in the same car, difference of 5+ decibels)

so dont tell him to get a new one, how about sticking to the topic for a change?




deeko, did you try telling them you couldnt get it out?

A) Theres better then Polk.
B) Difference of 5+ Decibels? And this was measured by what kind of mic? Where was it located? What was the test material?
C) Same amp? No gain settings changed ANYWHERE? (HU, amp, EQ's)
D) Boxes were plotted for borh subs to create a similiar box? Sub A will not perform the same as sub B in the same box. Fact of life, boxes make all the difference.

A) i know, but polk is not bad and people say its crap, which is not true
B) a friend of mine has a recording studio and he has all of these nifty little gadgets. we got in the car and mounted it on the dashboard in front of us. we left it there for both sets of subs, the average for the polks was about 133-135 and the JL's came in around 126-130 (on the most bass intensive song i could find)
C) exact same amp, exact same settings
D) yes, i know, the box makes ALL the difference, but both subs (in a ported box) only required about 1.5 ft^3 and 1.7 ft^3 (im pretty sure that was it) and the box they were in was pretty dang close to 1.6ft^3 (thats how we designed it for the JL's, it just happened to be a good size for both sets)
E) both sets RMS at 400 a piece
F) both were bridged the same way

Those were the OUTLAW scores?:Q Those subs are worse than I thought!

 

[TheeeChosenOne]

Whenit's time to buy another sub with the greatest sound per buck, get a Hsu Subwoofer or a SVS sub as a 2nd choice.

There's also Vandersteen and others, but they're generally much more expensive and don't give you much more unless you're in the $2500 range. That's how well rated the HSU sub is. Do a Google search when you're interested.

 

[Deeko]

Hrm....it has to be glued or something. It just ain't comin out. No room around the rim to pry it either. Guess I'll send them another email...

Oh, and its a pretty good sub. Not the best, but its pretty damn nice, and when you consider I got it for under $150 with my discount and it retailed for like $350.....

 

[Ausm]

Buy Klipsch


Ausm

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
actually, you morons saying polk is bad, they tend to make pretty good stuff but probably got a bad rap from previous equipment like ibm and the 75gxp, even though the 120 and the 180gxp own the newer WD and maxtor drives....

i had polk subs in my car and they hit harder than some of the JL series (on the same amp in the same box (air space was +- .1ft ^3 to the specs)in the same car, difference of 5+ decibels)

so dont tell him to get a new one, how about sticking to the topic for a change?




deeko, did you try telling them you couldnt get it out?

A) Theres better then Polk.
B) Difference of 5+ Decibels? And this was measured by what kind of mic? Where was it located? What was the test material?
C) Same amp? No gain settings changed ANYWHERE? (HU, amp, EQ's)
D) Boxes were plotted for borh subs to create a similiar box? Sub A will not perform the same as sub B in the same box. Fact of life, boxes make all the difference.

A) i know, but polk is not bad and people say its crap, which is not true
B) a friend of mine has a recording studio and he has all of these nifty little gadgets. we got in the car and mounted it on the dashboard in front of us. we left it there for both sets of subs, the average for the polks was about 133-135 and the JL's came in around 126-130 (on the most bass intensive song i could find)
C) exact same amp, exact same settings
D) yes, i know, the box makes ALL the difference, but both subs (in a ported box) only required about 1.5 ft^3 and 1.7 ft^3 (im pretty sure that was it) and the box they were in was pretty dang close to 1.6ft^3 (thats how we designed it for the JL's, it just happened to be a good size for both sets)
E) both sets RMS at 400 a piece
F) both were bridged the same way

Those were the OUTLAW scores?:Q Those subs are worse than I thought!

what do you mean, worse than you thought? those were pretty good levels considering my car's airspace. you can take your know-it-all attitude and your :Q faces somewhere else. not everyone can afford the best equipment, but you asked a question and i gave you the answer that you werent prepared for. so shove it.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
actually, you morons saying polk is bad, they tend to make pretty good stuff but probably got a bad rap from previous equipment like ibm and the 75gxp, even though the 120 and the 180gxp own the newer WD and maxtor drives....

i had polk subs in my car and they hit harder than some of the JL series (on the same amp in the same box (air space was +- .1ft ^3 to the specs)in the same car, difference of 5+ decibels)

so dont tell him to get a new one, how about sticking to the topic for a change?




deeko, did you try telling them you couldnt get it out?

A) Theres better then Polk.
B) Difference of 5+ Decibels? And this was measured by what kind of mic? Where was it located? What was the test material?
C) Same amp? No gain settings changed ANYWHERE? (HU, amp, EQ's)
D) Boxes were plotted for borh subs to create a similiar box? Sub A will not perform the same as sub B in the same box. Fact of life, boxes make all the difference.

A) i know, but polk is not bad and people say its crap, which is not true
B) a friend of mine has a recording studio and he has all of these nifty little gadgets. we got in the car and mounted it on the dashboard in front of us. we left it there for both sets of subs, the average for the polks was about 133-135 and the JL's came in around 126-130 (on the most bass intensive song i could find)
C) exact same amp, exact same settings
D) yes, i know, the box makes ALL the difference, but both subs (in a ported box) only required about 1.5 ft^3 and 1.7 ft^3 (im pretty sure that was it) and the box they were in was pretty dang close to 1.6ft^3 (thats how we designed it for the JL's, it just happened to be a good size for both sets)
E) both sets RMS at 400 a piece
F) both were bridged the same way

Nice! Someone that actually does some decent testing! What model Polk and what model JL?
And I wont say Polk is bad, I just didnt want anyone whipping out the POLK IS DA BEST guns.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: BennyD

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

A) i know, but polk is not bad and people say its crap, which is not true
B) a friend of mine has a recording studio and he has all of these nifty little gadgets. we got in the car and mounted it on the dashboard in front of us. we left it there for both sets of subs, the average for the polks was about 133-135 and the JL's came in around 126-130 (on the most bass intensive song i could find)
C) exact same amp, exact same settings
D) yes, i know, the box makes ALL the difference, but both subs (in a ported box) only required about 1.5 ft^3 and 1.7 ft^3 (im pretty sure that was it) and the box they were in was pretty dang close to 1.6ft^3 (thats how we designed it for the JL's, it just happened to be a good size for both sets)
E) both sets RMS at 400 a piece
F) both were bridged the same way

owned

Not pwned. Answered.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: BennyD

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

A) i know, but polk is not bad and people say its crap, which is not true
B) a friend of mine has a recording studio and he has all of these nifty little gadgets. we got in the car and mounted it on the dashboard in front of us. we left it there for both sets of subs, the average for the polks was about 133-135 and the JL's came in around 126-130 (on the most bass intensive song i could find)
C) exact same amp, exact same settings
D) yes, i know, the box makes ALL the difference, but both subs (in a ported box) only required about 1.5 ft^3 and 1.7 ft^3 (im pretty sure that was it) and the box they were in was pretty dang close to 1.6ft^3 (thats how we designed it for the JL's, it just happened to be a good size for both sets)
E) both sets RMS at 400 a piece
F) both were bridged the same way

owned

Not pwned. Answered.

well, it depends on you define owned...

the polks were DX12s and the JLs were w6's

i cant really give you tons more info on it other than what ive already presented because it was last summer. but, for the price difference, i DEFINITELY would take the polks over the JLs, or at least in my given situation after doing extensive testing with multiple amps....

one thing i do remember is putting them on my 1000w lanzar amp, 700w soundstream, and a 1200w audiobahn...

the lanzar (cheapest in price) sounded better than the soundstream (which is supposed to be sweet) and of course they both sucked compared to the audiobahn. part of the problem at first was i only had a .5 farad cap, and the JLs suffered more from that than the polks did, but once i got a 1.0 cap and put it in parallel with the .5f (no cap in the beginning of all this killed my starter )

 

[LeStEr]

Originally posted by: yakko
Push like a man and not a girlie man and it will come out.

Haha

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
actually, you morons saying polk is bad, they tend to make pretty good stuff but probably got a bad rap from previous equipment like ibm and the 75gxp, even though the 120 and the 180gxp own the newer WD and maxtor drives....

i had polk subs in my car and they hit harder than some of the JL series (on the same amp in the same box (air space was +- .1ft ^3 to the specs)in the same car, difference of 5+ decibels)

so dont tell him to get a new one, how about sticking to the topic for a change?




deeko, did you try telling them you couldnt get it out?

A) Theres better then Polk.
B) Difference of 5+ Decibels? And this was measured by what kind of mic? Where was it located? What was the test material?
C) Same amp? No gain settings changed ANYWHERE? (HU, amp, EQ's)
D) Boxes were plotted for borh subs to create a similiar box? Sub A will not perform the same as sub B in the same box. Fact of life, boxes make all the difference.

A) i know, but polk is not bad and people say its crap, which is not true
B) a friend of mine has a recording studio and he has all of these nifty little gadgets. we got in the car and mounted it on the dashboard in front of us. we left it there for both sets of subs, the average for the polks was about 133-135 and the JL's came in around 126-130 (on the most bass intensive song i could find)
C) exact same amp, exact same settings
D) yes, i know, the box makes ALL the difference, but both subs (in a ported box) only required about 1.5 ft^3 and 1.7 ft^3 (im pretty sure that was it) and the box they were in was pretty dang close to 1.6ft^3 (thats how we designed it for the JL's, it just happened to be a good size for both sets)
E) both sets RMS at 400 a piece
F) both were bridged the same way

Those were the OUTLAW scores?:Q Those subs are worse than I thought!

what do you mean, worse than you thought? those were pretty good levels considering my car's airspace. you can take your know-it-all attitude and your :Q faces somewhere else. not everyone can afford the best equipment, but you asked a question and i gave you the answer that you werent prepared for. so shove it.

I wasn't even the one who ansked the question so...

So you are claiming that a pair of 12w6's with 400watts apiece only did 126-130db? I am not a JL fan by any means, but those number seem low. You claim you have small airspace, but you don't even say what car....

Deeko said that these subs retail for 350 for each... you can buy amazing subs for $700. Even for the price of on Polk sub you can get a Brahma, 3 shivas, elemental designs, or 3 IDQ's that would all pound and have great SQ. There are better buys than the Polk sub.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

I wasn't even the one who ansked the question so...

So you are claiming that a pair of 12w6's with 400watts apiece only did 126-130db? I am not a JL fan by any means, but those number seem low. You claim you have small airspace, but you don't even say what car....

Deeko said that these subs retail for 350 for each... you can buy amazing subs for $700. Even for the price of on Polk sub you can get a Brahma, 3 shivas, elemental designs, or 3 IDQ's that would all pound and have great SQ. There are better buys than the Polk sub.

so just because you know some brand names, you expect me to think you know what you are talking about? show me some of YOUR testing and then we can talk. i never

said i really know sh!t about this, but i put my facts behind what i said. i have tested all of it and this was in my particular car. im sure it can be louder in other cars. that

wasnt the point. that is all i had to do last summer was mess around with subs, and if he paid 350 dollars for any single sub that didnt have at least a 200+ oz magnet, then

it was a rip off. you want bass? get a 10'' competition sub with a 300oz strontium magnet. ive never even heard of that crap you just mentioned. i went to best buy when

they had a competition at my local fairgrounds and a guy came in with a minivan full of subs. they were all JLs, and he won. im not a fan of any particular company, but

having a bias against a particular company for no reason is just stupid. polk is fine. jl is fine. its all fine, you just have to pick what you like.

 

[toant103]

hahha, voodoooo