I'm going on a gambling boat

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: elmro
I've never seen so many people take a fun thread topic and poo-poo all over it.

"... and take this, haters" - Kanye

I would love to play poker with my co-workers - if the drinks are flowing, and a little bit of trash talk floating around - it could really be a lot of fun - a perfect opportunity to get to know them personally.

Try again

Geekbabe - Best of luck, let us know if you win the keys to the boat :thumbsup:

 

[QueBert]

from what I've heard of the Gambling boats (we don't have them in Cali) they limit how much you can lose to $300? My brother in law lives down south and the boats they go on to play blackjack cut people off after 200 or 300. That's actually something I like.

 

[Geekbabe]

We get to the dock,we all get in line,get our tickets,coast guard shows up,cancels cruise,turns out the boat had generator problems while returning from the daytime cruise.

Oh well,we all went out to drink/eat,had lobster pie and got a raincheck pass for another cruise,will get a ticket for my husband and take him along

 

[hzl eyed grl]

Don't forget to give us an update.

 

[Maiora]

The ratios on gambling cruises are worse than land based casinos. They run offshore just off the limits putting them in international waters. They do this so they are not regulated by the gambling commission and can set their ratios to their advantage.

But this does not put a damper on the fun.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: QueBert
from what I've heard of the Gambling boats (we don't have them in Cali) they limit how much you can lose to $300? My brother in law lives down south and the boats they go on to play blackjack cut people off after 200 or 300. That's actually something I like.

Uhh.. I've never heard of anything like that. $200 can disappear in minutes for even an average joe like me.

Originally posted by: Alone
Luck is just an excuse for why things happen. The odds of rolling, say, a 7 seven times in a row are slim, but the odds still exist. You might call it luck, but it's a mathematical occurrence.

Exactly.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: QueBert
luck exists, if it doesn't explain how I hit my point 7 times in a row on the craps table last time I was at the Casino playing. I'm no mathematics wizard, but I know about odds and the odds of hitting the same point 7 times in a row without luck would be infinitely impossible no? If I'm wrong here some math geek chime in. Not to mention a 5 is harder to hit than a 6, 7 or 8 because those have 3 chances where 5 you have just 2.

luck comes and goes as far as I'm concerned.

I'm no math wizard but I was curious. I looked up some stats and it appears you have about a 49.3% chance of hitting your point when starting.

Therefore, the chances of hitting your point 7x in a row is roughly .7%. If that is correct, the math says that this will happen 1 time for every 143 people that roll. So, that means that this probably happens more than once every night on every full craps table in a casino. Furthermore, if you rolled 10 times during the night, you have now increased your chances of this happening 10x. It really was not that out of the ordinary.

Incidentally, the chances of losing 7x in a row are roughly .86% and that would happen once for every 117 persons who roll.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: QueBert
from what I've heard of the Gambling boats (we don't have them in Cali) they limit how much you can lose to $300? My brother in law lives down south and the boats they go on to play blackjack cut people off after 200 or 300. That's actually something I like.

Uhh.. I've never heard of anything like that. $200 can disappear in minutes for even an average joe like me.

Originally posted by: Alone
Luck is just an excuse for why things happen. The odds of rolling, say, a 7 seven times in a row are slim, but the odds still exist. You might call it luck, but it's a mathematical occurrence.

Exactly.

I think the OP is talking about an actual Ocean liner with gambling, my bad. I was talking about the Riverboats on the Mississippi that have gambling. They limit how much you can spend. If you win $5,000 you're free to loose it right back. But they only allow you to gable $300 of your own money. Possibly a Government requirement for them to be able to operate? I don't know of any Casinos that want to keep you from losing all your money. But it's a good idea to keep people from going totally broke, at least in 1 session

 

[WildHorse]

so I hear that the way you have a chance to win at blackjack is that, when the deck is fresh, you start watching every card.

For every low card played by anyone you mentally count +1, and for every high card (10 & up) you mentally count -1.

Whenever your running total is positive, it means more high cards are still in the deck waiting to be dealt, and that's when you bet more.

I only heard this, can't vouch for it

Good luck!

 

[Geekbabe]

The good news is the dude at my job who set up the cruise called the cruise company, we're all invited to go back on the 31st,for free and they'll throw in 2 free drinks.We can keep the rain check passes we were issued last night compliments of the house for our inconvience.So I'll get to go with my work team and get to take my husband for free another night

 

[Regs]

lol. You have no where to escape. I would need someone to lock me up in a room.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: scott
so I hear that the way you have a chance to win at blackjack is that, when the deck is fresh, you start watching every card.

For every low card played by anyone you mentally count +1, and for every high card (10 & up) you mentally count -1.

Whenever your running total is positive, it means more high cards are still in the deck waiting to be dealt, and that's when you bet more.

I only heard this, can't vouch for it

Good luck!

Just make sure you are wearing a life preserver at the table.

 

[Crazee]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Lorax

Originally posted by: illusion88
play some poker and blackjack. DO NOT play blackjack with a shoe, only do single deck. Playing with a shoe is a good way to loose your money.

leave the other games to the losers.

if it's single deck that pays 6:5 for a blackjack, then it is actually a very very terrible game.

..as is poker if you do not know what you are doing.

the house advantage in single deck that pays 3 to 2 is ,18%. If the payout is decreased to 6 to 5 (as it is almost everywhere there is single deck blackjack) that advantage increases to 1.45% That is an increase of 800%. 8 deck for a player following basic strategy is a house advantage of .56%. In addition to the blackjack payout rules they also limit what you can double down and split on. Depending on how they limit this, it can make single deck blackjack a bigger house advantage than slots or other games that are tilted drastically for the house.

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: TallBill
Luck does not exist. If I had to spread one fact in the world it would be just that.

you keep saying that,I'll keep winning

:roll: No offense, but you are a complete moron if you believe that luck truly exists.

Edit - I'll rephrase. Instead of calling you a moron I'll just say that you're not a mathematics wizard. I could never believe in luck just as I could never believe in ghosts.

Originally posted by: TallBill
Yes well unfortunately because you are a female none of the nerdy math wizs on here will back me up.

Let me help you with that. I'm a mathematician that makes casino games, so I feel comfortable fielding this one.

You're wrong, there is such a thing as luck. It's also mathematically certain that somebody out there will be "lucky".

Games of chance (games that require no skill) like slot machines are normally distributed. That means your expected outcome for playing N games forms a bell curve. Some people will end up being within 1 standard deviation of the mean. Some will end up being outside 6 standard deviations from the mean. Those people are "lucky" and "unlucky", depending on which tail they fall on. That's the definition of what luck is.

Edit: Let me give you an analogy. What you're saying is like claiming there is no such thing as intelligence. Intelligence is also something that's normally distributed. Those that fall on the high end of the curve are "smart" and those on the low end are "stupid". They are that way because that's what we've defined those regions of the curve to be. It is similar to lucky/unlucky.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Kyteland
Let me help you with that. I'm a mathematician that makes casino games, so I feel comfortable fielding this one.

You're wrong, there is such a thing as luck. It's also mathematically certain that somebody out there will be "lucky".

Games of chance (games that require no skill) like slot machines are normally distributed. That means your expected outcome for playing N games forms a bell curve. Some people will end up being within 1 standard deviation of the mean. Some will end up being outside 6 standard deviations from the mean. Those people are "lucky" and "unlucky", depending on which tail they fall on. That's the definition of what luck is.

Edit: Let me give you an analogy. What you're saying is like claiming there is no such thing as intelligence. Intelligence is also something that's normally distributed. Those that fall on the high end of the curve are "smart" and those on the low end are "stupid". They are that way because that's what we've defined those regions of the curve to be. It is similar to lucky/unlucky.

I don't think that is really the issue here. Someone who makes a decision to gamble b/c they feel they are lucky is wrong and I think that is what Tallbill was getting at. Past instances of luck are no guarantee of future luck.

Therefore, when considering whether to play a game of chance, a persons "luck" should not be considered, only the actual probabilities of favorable results. Of course, if this was the case, no one would gamble in a casino.

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: DBL
I don't think that is really the issue here. Someone who makes a decision to gamble b/c they feel they are lucky is wrong and I think that is what Tallbill was getting at. Past instances of luck are no guarantee of future luck.

Therefore, when considering whether to play a game of chance, a persons "luck" should not be considered, only the actual probabilities of favorable results. Of course, if this was the case, no one would gamble in a casino.

Independence guarantees that all future outcomes are unaffected by past play, but that doesn't change the fact that somebody will fall into the portion of the bell curve defined to be "lucky". Somebody who has had luck in the past has a certain probability of having that luck continue in the future.

Of course it doesn't matter if they feel lucky or not. Going back to the intelligence analogy, quite a lot of people feel they are smart, when in fact they really aren't. Either you are lucky or you are not. Feel has nothing to do with it.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: DBL
I don't think that is really the issue here. Someone who makes a decision to gamble b/c they feel they are lucky is wrong and I think that is what Tallbill was getting at. Past instances of luck are no guarantee of future luck.

Therefore, when considering whether to play a game of chance, a persons "luck" should not be considered, only the actual probabilities of favorable results. Of course, if this was the case, no one would gamble in a casino.

Independence guarantees that all future outcomes are unaffected by past play, but that doesn't change the fact that somebody will fall into the portion of the bell curve defined to be "lucky". Somebody who has had luck in the past has a certain probability of having that luck continue in the future.

Of course it doesn't matter if they feel lucky or not. Going back to the intelligence analogy, quite a lot of people feel they are smart, when in fact they really aren't. Either you are lucky or you are not. Feel has nothing to do with it.

I don't have an issue with most of what you wrote however, your analogy has a serious flaw.

I could show you the past IQ tests of persons claiming to be smart. We could then determine if they are in fact, smart. Following that same logic, I should be able look at past instances of luck to determine a persons future luck. As you admit yourself, that is not possible. The analogy does not work.

 

[Maiora]

What operator did you go on?

Most of the gambling boats in FL are made by the company I worked for.