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I'm going off the deep end...

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idNut

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To make a very, very long story short she broke up with her 5-year boyfriend because he was cheating on her with some skanky whore for 3 months. He later calls my sister to tell her that he's gotten the skank pregnant and wants money from my sister to get an abortion. (I know, WTF? :|) Okay so then the skanky whore calls my sister and leaves an extremely threatening and insulting message saying "I'll fvcking kill you" if she goes anywhere near her "fiance" not boyfriend whereas my sister didn't call that bag of sh!t once, he called her. So my sister was considering telling the cops about the threat but I don't think she is going to, it seems she wants to take matters into her own hands so last night she's must have gotten another message or call from the whore because she gets into her car to go over to the whore's trailer to beat the sh!t out of her until my sister is stopped by a cop for a speeding violation. I think after she got that she just drove home.

Then this morning, I think my sister's dogs made a big mess she had to clean up. So I heard some profanity about that then I hear the downstairs door fling open and my one dog run out the back, her first dog. So she had to chase and get him. Later, after he's caught, she comes upstairs slamming doors and sh!t, crying. I didn't know what to do so I just laid in my bed.

Pretty fvcked up sh!t here. My sister is on the brink of doing something drastic but I don't think I really care. I'm as fvcked up as her and my philosophies hold me back from offering any help.

My family used to be so nice.
 
I don't know if there's anything you can do. She probably needs professional help. For now just let her know she can talk to you and you are there for her.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Why do you not care?
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Because I just disconnect myself. I've had so much pain in my life already that I just don't need anymore. I know you're all thinking I'm only 17 but I've had a lifetime of pain.
 
To make a very, very long story short she broke up with her 5-year boyfriend because he was cheating on her with some skanky whore for 3 months. He later calls my sister to tell her that he's gotten the skank pregnant and wants money from my sister to get an abortion.
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First off, she needs to look long and hard at this and realize this is the guy she was dating. I'd say she needs to rethink her choice of partners. If this is the kind of guy she wants, then keep doing what she is doing. If she was smart she'd move on and find someone better who will treat her as a person rather than a overly gullible piece of ass with dollar bills comming out of her ears.
 
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Why do you not care?
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Because I just disconnect myself. I've had so much pain in my life already that I just don't need anymore. I know you're all thinking I'm only 17 but I've had a lifetime of pain.
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Disconnection brings apathy, and apathy breeds stagnation. Stagnation leads to death.

Tell me about your pain.



"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it. "
 
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Why do you not care?
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Because I just disconnect myself. I've had so much pain in my life already that I just don't need anymore. I know you're all thinking I'm only 17 but I've had a lifetime of pain.
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What pain have you had that others have not had?

And yes, you do care otherwise you'd not have posted.

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it seems she wants to take matters into her own hands so last night she's must have gotten another message or call from the whore because she gets into her car to go over to the whore's trailer to beat the sh!t out of her until my sister is stopped by a cop for a speeding violation.
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That isn't a smart thing to do. Your sister needs some guidance.

 
I would kick this guys arse for being one, then I would call the cops and tell them of the threats, then I would let my sis know that although I have disconnected my self due to a lifetime of pain, I will be there for her because no matter what, at the end of the day, she would be there for me.

I disconnected myself at 6, things got worse from there. u have to learn to deal, only way forward.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Why do you not care?
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Because I just disconnect myself. I've had so much pain in my life already that I just don't need anymore. I know you're all thinking I'm only 17 but I've had a lifetime of pain.
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Disconnection brings apathy, and apathy breeds stagnation. Stagnation leads to death.

Tell me about your pain.



"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it. "
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My pain is mostly spiritual. I used to be a believing Christian but constant conversing with atheists and gentiles alike has brought me to dispel any belief of the supernatural. God, to be honest, was my only conviction and now I don't know what to do. I'm out of faith, love and hope. I used to strive to be a righteous, kind person but now I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I just seek whatever pleasures I can and feed from them. I don't care to change myself or anyone else. I'm a miserable pile of sh!t to sum it all up. So I just keep pushing it away because I don't care.
 
Hi, I'm you 3 years down the line. Things get better, maybe slowly, but they do. Help your sister, because eventually, you will be helping yourself.
 
Women are generally illogical. She needs another woman (hopefully more logical) to discuss this stuff with. That will help calm her down. Perhaps you can interject some logical solutions at that point, but not before.
 
Originally posted by: idNut
My pain is mostly spiritual. I used to be a believing Christian but constant conversing with atheists and gentiles alike has brought me to dispel any belief of the supernatural. God, to be honest, was my only conviction and now I don't know what to do. I'm out of faith, love and hope. I used to strive to be a righteous, kind person but now I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I just seek whatever pleasures I can and feed from them. I don't care to change myself or anyone else. I'm a miserable pile of sh!t to sum it all up. So I just keep pushing it away because I don't care.
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That step away from God is a heavy one, is it not? You spend your entire Christian life believing in God and Heaven and that wistful goodness, then one day your faith which was once so solid is crumbling in your hands. That future you once thought certain is suddenly fragile.

I cannot describe to you the fear I felt when I first gave up my faith in the Christian God - it truly was like a leap of faith. All at once, your life loses meaning - and all those questions you blindly throw up to Him come crashing back down, unanswered yet again.

You do care, methinks, deeply. Pushing it all away is one way of reconciling this world of pain and loss. There are others.
 
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Why do you not care?
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Because I just disconnect myself. I've had so much pain in my life already that I just don't need anymore. I know you're all thinking I'm only 17 but I've had a lifetime of pain.
Click to expand...

Disconnection brings apathy, and apathy breeds stagnation. Stagnation leads to death.

Tell me about your pain.



"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it. "
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My pain is mostly spiritual. I used to be a believing Christian but constant conversing with atheists and gentiles alike has brought me to dispel any belief of the supernatural. God, to be honest, was my only conviction and now I don't know what to do. I'm out of faith, love and hope. I used to strive to be a righteous, kind person but now I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I just seek whatever pleasures I can and feed from them. I don't care to change myself or anyone else. I'm a miserable pile of sh!t to sum it all up. So I just keep pushing it away because I don't care.
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I don't mean to be demeaning but you said you've had so much pain in your life already. I still haven't heard it. You don't think others have gone down the same path of confusion regarding faith? It sounds to me like you're in the middle of teenage angst, which is perfectly natural.

Whatever you feel now you can't dismiss the fact that perhaps in 5 years you'l once again have faith and God. But all that aside you've only got one family.

Might I also recommend spending less time with the athiests. I'm generally one myself, and yet if they have done nothing but "ruin" your life, what the hell are you doing around them?

 
You sis needs some help. She's hurting right now. She's also not thinking clearly, and doing something drastic will not solve the problem, but make things worse.

As for you, you push things away because you do care. You can never truly disconnect yourself. You only end up burying painful feelings that will fester in that darkness and come back at a later date. The only way to move forward is to face that pain head on and come to terms with it. Some people get help with this. Some like to write, or draw, or make music.

Seeking whatever small pleasures you can find and gorging yourself on them doesn't make you any happier in the long run. It's merely instant gratification. The problems you're having trouble facing are still there waiting to be addressed.
 
Go make your sister a cup of coffee and just sit with her.Sometimes,you just need somebody to be there,quietly bearing witness as you grapple with a situation that seems surreal.She's probably in so much pain right now that she doesn't know what to think,say or do.
 
just give your sister the shoulder to rest she incredibly needs right now. give her a long soft hugh. and maybe everything will crack open and you'll find your t-shirt wet from all the tears. she will feel better and wo will you.

as Skroob said, sounds like teenage angst, that by the loss of faith is agravated. idNut it's not all that bad. look forward, let the past behind you, cause it's passed, nothing you can do about it. (i was born jw and turned my back to them when i was 17. that meant lost about every social connection i had, my parents were distant and acusing (cause they felt as they have failed as parents), i didn't know what to believe, just that the path jw's take is not my thing. so i could in some sort start over. i was just long time afraid of looking forward and take the step.
in some way those were interesting times...
 
Heck that bad boy sonofab needs to learn to use protection first before calling your sister and tell dumb crap like that. If he couldn't protect himself with that other gal he's sure dumb as a rock as he unintentionally made her pregnant. Now I know that other guy who intentionally impregnated a young daughter of a rich man and they had nothing better to do than let marry their daughter and accept him in the family. That's pretty different story, of course. Remember... it's 5 minutes of pleasure (even though it may not be 5 mins, maybe much mucho longer indeed) and 30 years of problems with these kids, so you'd better watch out before you make a decision to have one.
 
My pain is mostly spiritual. I used to be a believing Christian but constant conversing with atheists and gentiles alike has brought me to dispel any belief of the supernatural. God, to be honest, was my only conviction and now I don't know what to do. I'm out of faith, love and hope. I used to strive to be a righteous, kind person but now I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I just seek whatever pleasures I can and feed from them. I don't care to change myself or anyone else. I'm a miserable pile of sh!t to sum it all up. So I just keep pushing it away because I don't care.
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oranges are not the only fruit; do not allow a change of faith to deny your self-imposed goal of rightousness. if you were only being rightous for god, what would have been the point? you must have, in some way, desired to live the way you did. i think everyone goes through a time when they dont know what they believe but its important to try and understand that, god or no, there is a bigger picture. we are all confused and lost in this world, the most we can hope for is to help each other out.


oh yeah: and i think your sister just needs time. try and help her, if she wants it...
 
Originally posted by: idNut
My sister is on the brink of doing something drastic but I don't think I really care. I'm as fvcked up as her and my philosophies hold me back from offering any help.

My family used to be so nice.
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If you don't care, why are you posting this?

and btw, if you let a "philosophy" prevent you from helping your family you are just as messed up as she is.
 
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Why do you not care?
Click to expand...

Because I just disconnect myself. I've had so much pain in my life already that I just don't need anymore. I know you're all thinking I'm only 17 but I've had a lifetime of pain.
Click to expand...

Disconnection brings apathy, and apathy breeds stagnation. Stagnation leads to death.

Tell me about your pain.



"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it. "
Click to expand...

My pain is mostly spiritual. I used to be a believing Christian but constant conversing with atheists and gentiles alike has brought me to dispel any belief of the supernatural. God, to be honest, was my only conviction and now I don't know what to do. I'm out of faith, love and hope. I used to strive to be a righteous, kind person but now I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I just seek whatever pleasures I can and feed from them. I don't care to change myself or anyone else. I'm a miserable pile of sh!t to sum it all up. So I just keep pushing it away because I don't care.
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Quit b!tching. If God wants you, He will find you. If not, your fvcked anyway, so why worry about it.

i don't get people like you. so fvcking interspective that you can't live your own life.

there is a difference between KNOWING God and "believing" God. "believing" is fake. it's a pretense.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: idNut
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Why do you not care?
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Because I just disconnect myself. I've had so much pain in my life already that I just don't need anymore. I know you're all thinking I'm only 17 but I've had a lifetime of pain.
Click to expand...

Disconnection brings apathy, and apathy breeds stagnation. Stagnation leads to death.

Tell me about your pain.



"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it. "
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My pain is mostly spiritual. I used to be a believing Christian but constant conversing with atheists and gentiles alike has brought me to dispel any belief of the supernatural. God, to be honest, was my only conviction and now I don't know what to do. I'm out of faith, love and hope. I used to strive to be a righteous, kind person but now I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I just seek whatever pleasures I can and feed from them. I don't care to change myself or anyone else. I'm a miserable pile of sh!t to sum it all up. So I just keep pushing it away because I don't care.
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Quit b!tching. If God wants you, He will find you. If not, your fvcked anyway, so why worry about it.

i don't get people like you. so fvcking interspective that you can't live your own life.

there is a difference between KNOWING God and "believing" God. "believing" is fake. it's a pretense.
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God's postcards get sent back to me, he didn't file a forwarding address. I believe he's hiding from me.


 
I don't understand the part with the dog running out the back - what does that have to do with anything if she got him back?
 
Originally posted by: Spac3d
I don't understand the part with the dog running out the back - what does that have to do with anything if she got him back?
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I think it's from the big book of trailerpark astrology. If your dog runs out back you get your boyfriend back.


 
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