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I'm going Homeless.. Need help on Tent and Woodstove in Wilderness

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Dr. Detroit said:
The $40 tent wont last through a wind storm or if it rains more than an hour it will be soaked through. The tactical tent is a true 4-season tent made with superior materials and fully seam sealed. It can fit 3-adults snugly.
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A $300 tent is going to get stolen within 20 minutes of him leaving it.
 
As a side note a tent won't do much in the cold, if you fail to light a fire you're screwed. Went camping in a tent and it was only -1 degrees but I was freezing my ass off and that was in a sleeping bag. It sucked even more having to go out there to pee. Since it was middle of summer and it was bright out at 4am it made for a pretty impressive lake view though!
 
Red Squirrel said:
As a side note a tent won't do much in the cold, if you fail to light a fire you're screwed. Went camping in a tent and it was only -1 degrees but I was freezing my ass off and that was in a sleeping bag. It sucked even more having to go out there to pee. Since it was middle of summer and it was bright out at 4am it made for a pretty impressive lake view though!
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Only the Squirrel can go camping in the summer, and be freezing in -1° weather :^D You picked the wrong day. You only have a day or two of summer. You need to be more precise with your planning :^D


For the OP... If it were me, I'd invest in a good entrenching tool, an axe, and a knife. If you need instructions on how to live with those, you aren't fit to live outside ;^)
 
Red Squirrel said:
As a side note a tent won't do much in the cold, if you fail to light a fire you're screwed. Went camping in a tent and it was only -1 degrees but I was freezing my ass off and that was in a sleeping bag. It sucked even more having to go out there to pee. Since it was middle of summer and it was bright out at 4am it made for a pretty impressive lake view though!
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The main problem there is that its -1 in the summer not that you are camping.
 
Sounds like you have schizophrenia. Sorry man, that is a tough break. You should be on disability and provided welfare with a proper diagnoses from a professional. Living in the woods isn't a bad idea, but I'd recommend getting your finances sorted out first so you have the option of coming back to society if you get sick of living in a tent.
 
Living the homeless lifestyle is a hundred times harder than taking government assistance and maintaining a modest apartment or renting a room.

While most homeless people are actually quite harmless as you’ve noted there is a segment everywhere that will take advantage of you, and you will be outside society so there is no one to go to. The police will not intervene when you are assualted or robbed, and you will be eventually. Also, homelessness is a trap you likely will never escape if you choose it. Things that are incredibly easy right now will become much harder. Not being able to take a shit or a shower will get old really quick.

I don’t know what kind of work you’ve tried but you might rethink what you’re trying to do for income. If your challenges with demons and such are disruptive maybe you can do some kind of piece work from your home so you work when you can and don’t disrupt others. Hell, you’d probably do better collecting recyclables for cash than working one day a month.

I feel it’s more likely than not that you need mental health care, but whether that’s right or wrong the rest of my advice stands.
 
cheez said:
I don't want to go back to my Mom's house it's so humiliating. Don't tell me to go back to my parents house. My life is so crap...

Mental services would not help me. I don't mind government welfare program so they can write me a check every month. I don't know if I should take that though.
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That's a tough decision. I may have a beard somewhat resembling a lumberjack, but I'm no outdoors woodsman. I was homeless for a day or two, just to try out the lifestyle. It wasn't fun.

So, anyways, there's kind of like this, "continuum of 'freedom'". There's the freedom from society, that you get, by going off in the woods somewhere, and being homeless. Not tied down to a job, an income, rent, etc. But that's a double-edged sword.

Then there's the 'Freedom' of being a part of society. Society progresses, and it gets there, by everyone standing on other people's shoulders, to paraphrase a famous saying. If you don't have shoulders to stand on (society's support mechanisms), then you're not going to rise very high. But by the same token, society places constraints on you, and demands certain responsibilities, along with conferring certain protections for God-given In-Alienable rights ("to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness").

One thing that you may not have considered... homeless people and run-ins with the law, not all police and judges and whatnot understand mental illness, especially if you've never been officially diagnosed with something. I've had run-ins with the law, once when I "went homeless". They really don't consider you to be a part of society, or have rights, for the most part. It's pretty sad. But that's something that you might have issues with, if you pursue this "homeless dream". It's not all just "riding off into the sunset". The police may whip up a phoney charge, and get you arrested, and you might get a Public Defender, that's not so up to snuff, and then... you might lose your freedom of movement, being confined to a cell most of the time.

I would rather be homeless and not have to worry about this rent and bills... All that huge fines / late fees I have to pay on the rent too. My rent contract ends around this June. I am not gonna renew it and get the heck out of here... throw out all my belongings like bed and other stuff... move to a wilderness and setup a tent.
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This is really... not so wise?

I mean, I personally suffer from a pretty serious mental illness, so serious that I'm deemed mostly unemployable by a "real job".

(Edit: But despite that, due to my disability check, my subsidized (public) housing, and my social services and meds, I'm able to live a fairly normal life, sort of, even though I struggle day by day with my illness. Some days are even enjoyable. I question if being "tied down" to meds, and services, is really Freedom, though. But from a Humane perspective, it seems better than fighting amongst homeless people for scraps of food.)

I don't really like it, but it pays the bills, I'm on disability, and I have a social services organization that helps me, therapy and psychiatry (basically, medication). It kind of sucks, but it's.... kind of bearable? And kind of insane, in a sort of way, too. Or maybe, that's just me.

I find an outlet in my tech hobby. I really should be making YT videos, what with all of the builds and new toys and stuff I get. I'm a really sharp bargain-shopper though, well, for most things. I do manage to stretch my money, but I really should be eating better, I've let my health decline over the last 20 years.

That's what I'm afraid will happen to you, cheez. If you go off in the woods somewhere, maybe no-one will hear from you again. And we will be sad. 🙁

What happens if you don't have a doctor, or a place to get meds at, or fix a broken bone? Are the woodland elves going to do it?

Look, cheez, I believe you. I also believe that you have a similar "mental illness" to mine. I put that in quotes, because ... it's kind of a matter of perspective. Maybe, from society's point-of-view, you have a "mental illness", and should probably get on some sort of disability. Or, maybe it's society that's suffering from a mass mental illness, and you are one of the few that are a witness to the Truth. I face that conundrum quite often.

Here's what I would (armchair quarterback mode ON) do, if I were in your shoes.

If you are in the USA, and willing to deal with social services organization and the US Gov't, then you could apply for SSI and SSDI. I live in a "Liberal" state, so social services are plentiful here, and very effective. I am very lucky to be living where I am right now.

Or, if you don't want to go the route of a handout, and being slave to medication schedules and psychiatric visits, I would recommend, BEFORE you get "diagnosed", get a Passport, and get the F out of this country, find a nice little place in the Caribbean somewhere, or in the US Virgin Islands (never been to either, honestly, but I hear that they're nice, and of course, they're warm). Become a "beach bum". Maybe learn to paint or play a guitar. Maybe start doing portraits of tourists or busking for a little extra money. (I think it's possible to live in a US Territory or Protectorate, like US Virgin Islands, and still collect Social Security Disability.)

But living in the woods, in the Northern Hemisphere, well, that's best for the Moose and Bear, not "homeless" Humans.

Edit: PS. Sorry for high-jacking your thread with my long post. I hope that you are able to fully consider the longer-term ramifications and risks, along with "benefits" of moving into the Woods. Personally, I liked the idea of moving into a Monastery. That sounded better than being homeless in the Woods somewhere.
 
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cheez said:
I don't need mental help because the problem comes right back it never ends. No medicine will solve that (it will only make it worse).
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You claim to have spent something like $4k on speaker cables and believe that Jesus wants you to be miserable and jobless.

Yes, you need mental help.
 
Zeze said:
cheez, if you can somehow prove you're not lying, please allow me to donate few bucks. PM me.
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I didn't come here to beg for money as it's also against the rule by anandtech. Giving me money won't do a damn thing cause demons attack me whenever I get a job. I know where I'm heading.... endless misery of my life. It's sweet of you offering me for help though, I appreciate that.

WelshBloke said:
Dont help him buy a tent to live in the wilderness in, he'll end up dead within a year.
He needs serious mental health intervention.

Or he's trolling. I really hope he's trolling!
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You are a very evil person. When things all go down here in America it is you who will be in bigger trouble. You will be in panic and despair..

WelshBloke said:
A $300 tent is going to get stolen within 20 minutes of him leaving it.
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It's $250'ish. I may try to get a lock...

Red Squirrel said:
As a side note a tent won't do much in the cold, if you fail to light a fire you're screwed. Went camping in a tent and it was only -1 degrees but I was freezing my ass off and that was in a sleeping bag. It sucked even more having to go out there to pee. Since it was middle of summer and it was bright out at 4am it made for a pretty impressive lake view though!
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It depends on what sleeping bag you use... Some of those duck down sleeping bags keep you warm.. Were you naked at the time? That is not very wise.

JackMDS said:
Maybe this can Help.

Ozark Trail North Fork 12' x 10' Wall Tent with Stove Jack
Walmart # 571838630
$349.00
List $379.00

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Tr...MIoprYrvel4QIVmYnICh3rmQ5-EAQYASABEgKbn_D_BwE
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That looks like crap. it's too big and it has no bottom to keep the bugs out. I can't sleep with the ants. The Snugpak tactical tent I posted here keeps bugs out and keeps inside warm in freezing weather plus it's smaller and cozy. I also have a cat... btw.

rommelrommel said:
I don’t know what kind of work you’ve tried but you might rethink what you’re trying to do for income. If your challenges with demons and such are disruptive maybe you can do some kind of piece work from your home so you work when you can and don’t disrupt others. Hell, you’d probably do better collecting recyclables for cash than working one day a month.
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I can't get the job "I WANT" to have... God won't let me. He is determined to screw my life to the teeth.... If I can have a job I want or at least demons leave me alone I wouldn't be having job troubles and money problems I would be rich by now and live comfy pleasureful life.

VirtualLarry said:
One thing that you may not have considered... homeless people and run-ins with the law, not all police and judges and whatnot understand mental illness, especially if you've never been officially diagnosed with something. I've had run-ins with the law, once when I "went homeless". They really don't consider you to be a part of society, or have rights, for the most part. It's pretty sad. But that's something that you might have issues with, if you pursue this "homeless dream". It's not all just "riding off into the sunset". The police may whip up a phoney charge, and get you arrested, and you might get a Public Defender, that's not so up to snuff, and then... you might lose your freedom of movement, being confined to a cell most of the time.
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You get put into jail for being a homeless?? What?? Are you kidding me?

That's what I'm afraid will happen to you, cheez. If you go off in the woods somewhere, maybe no-one will hear from you again. And we will be sad.
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I have no life. There is no future for me... if you are referring to prosperity and enjoy working and get good pay. It's probably better to be homeless than owing tens of thousands of dollars because I can't pay my rent and other bills.. The longer I stay here the more money I end up owing.... I used to have zero balance on my credit card, but after coming to God my life is screwed...

What happens if you don't have a doctor, or a place to get meds at, or fix a broken bone? Are the woodland elves going to do it?
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Relying on doctors will get you killed sooner... those meds will cause negative effect on your body... If you rely on God and expect him to heal you he will heal you. He won't let you get dead.. I haven't had health insurance for 10 years now... I can't afford insurance anyway. When the World War 3 / tribulation happens USA will be in big trouble... all the riches will lose their money and will be outside on the street begging for food. Better come to God now and get ready spiritually so that you have time to "exercise" faith and dependence on God to feed you and protect you.


zinfamous said:
You claim to have spent something like $4k on speaker cables and believe that Jesus wants you to be miserable and jobless.

Yes, you need mental help.
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Enough with the cable sh#t. I told you I got out of cable idols several years ago. Don't bring this up again.
 
cheez said:
You are a very evil person. When things all go down here in America it is you who will be in bigger trouble. You will be in panic and despair..
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If you say so. Go get some help.

Look at the choices you are making. You can't say that you are making choices that are in your own interests at the moment.
 
cheez said:
Better come to God now and get ready spiritually so that you have time to "exercise" faith and dependence on God to feed you and protect you.
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The issue with coming to God is if you are as screwed up as you say and your God cannot deliver you from "demons" why would anybody want to come to your God??
 
BudAshes said:
Is there any God that doesn't come off like a complete asshole?
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Actually YES!! But most likely according to you -- No!!
But that's what makes America great -- we can all believe as we desire! Plus you can pick and choose what you want to believe -- take alook at Donald Trump as a great example of believing what you want..lolol
 
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