I'm getting tired of teaching

[Chunkee]

those are the kids that need your help the most.

jC

 

[Maetryx]

Things that can't/won't make the situation better:

1) Determining with absolute certainty who to blame
2) Raising the education budget (this would have worked already if that was the case)
3) Knowing with absolute certainty how things should be but aren't

If we can get past those three items we may enter the realm of actual problem solving.

 

[xboxist]

The country is fvcked up - that's all there is to it. Teachers are not safely able to maintain any sense of authority in their own classrooms. Too many frivolous and insanely moronic lawsuits that pop up, ending a perfectly decent teacher's career.

Teachers these days have to be careful to even yell in their rooms. And the horrible part is that some kids KNOW THIS. They abuse it. Pushing all of the teachers' buttons until the teacher either snaps, or just completely deflates with frustration.

 

[Winchester]

Most ADD/ADHD are actually just discipline problems, not truly ADD/ADHD. I dont appreciate you saying it is a mental problem either. It is a gift and should be treated as such. Maybe your a sucky teacher that doesnt know how to guide the kids that truly have ADD/ADHD. Put them in charge, challenge them, show them special attention, and see how much they improve.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: Rogue
Words like, "Sit down and shut up!" are afraid to be spoken today in a classroom for fear that the kid will tattletail to their parents, etc.

I saw teachers get fired for less. Your "basic training" philosophy would land you:
1) In the unemployment line
2) In court for civil suits
3) In prison for violating ridiculous state laws about how public schools will conduct activities

A teacher I know was being pushed down the stairs by a kid. The kid kept pushing him, and kept saying "What are you going to do, huh?" So my friend took three fingers and moved the kid back with his fingertips so he wouldn't fall down. He got in big trouble for it. IMHO He should have drop kicked the little prick.

I say we allow corporal punishment.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: DaShen
The kid kept pushing him, and kept saying "What are you going to do, huh?"

"I'm going to paint the wall with your blood in the name of self-defense."


If I had been a teacher, I'd already be serving a life sentence in prision. This is a scientific, indisputable fact.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Maybe you are boring them with mundane work? What subject do you teach and for what grade?
You know Edison and Einstein never did their homework, nor paid attention in school. They were both very eager to learn too. But teachers imposed a strict, conformist learning pattern on them that bored them.
I recommend you to read a book called The Edison Trait. It will teach you how to effectively deal with these "problem" children and bring the best out of them.

... So you're saying that classrooms are full of asshat geniuses? Maybe 1%. And teachers are already VERY good at spotting that 1% because it's a different breed of asshole.

Try 20%.
Read the book. It describes three different kinds of edison trait kids - Dreamers, Discoverers, and Dynamos. Dreamers and Discoverers tend to be nicer kids that don't cause problems, except Discoverer's could be argumentative. Dynamos are the really hyperactive kids that gets into trouble all the time.
Everyone has something they are good at.
Teacher's AREN'T good at spotting that 1%. If you read an Einstein biography, almost everyone of his teacher's told his parents that he wouldn't get anywhere in life. Same with Edison. These are students that can't pay attention at all and resist doing any homework.
It doesn't happen by chance. It's a personality trait. Now I'm not saying that these students are all as capable of Einstein or Edison, but they generally think more abstractly and creatively than regular people as a result of them having difficulty of conforming and doing what they're told. If they were actually rewarded or praised for what they're good at, do you think they would be so unmotivated at school? If you were put up with something that you absolutely hate doing, and do poorly, then you were criticized for it, what would you feel? Would you be enthusiastic about it or show hate for it and even maybe kinda "get them back" for criticizing and imposing such dreaded things on you?

Most ADD/ADHD are actually just discipline problems, not truly ADD/ADHD. I dont appreciate you saying it is a mental problem either. It is a gift and should be treated as such. Maybe your a sucky teacher that doesnt know how to guide the kids that truly have ADD/ADHD. Put them in charge, challenge them, show them special attention, and see how much they improve.

I wholly agree. ADD/ADHD is way overdiagnosed. But it certainly is a real "disorder". But I agree with you that it's a gift and not a disorder.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Maybe you are boring them with mundane work? What subject do you teach and for what grade?
You know Edison and Einstein never did their homework, nor paid attention in school. They were both very eager to learn too. But teachers imposed a strict, conformist learning pattern on them that bored them.
I recommend you to read a book called The Edison Trait. It will teach you how to effectively deal with these "problem" children and bring the best out of them.

I was the same way all through school, even mostly in college, until playing pool, basketball, computer games, and sleeping through all my classes didn't work anymore in my 3rd year in college. <sigh>