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Descartes

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: waggy
heh expensive engagement rings are a huge rip off. you buy her a $10k ring then another one for the wedding.

unless you are makeing $300k a year its nuts.

i would rather put that 10k to a house or something that is actually usefull.

Why do people bother even adding these posts in diamond-related threads? And to actually put some silly salary requirement on the value?
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Aharami
dude, why are you buying from there? prices there are ridiculously high. They were quoting me 10K for a 1 carat VS1 ring! i was able to find a better ring for half the price on blue nile

I am purchasing the 1.5ct ring from bluenile. We tried rings on at Baily Banks & Biddle, and we initially found one we liked there. But I went home and did some searching, and found a much better diamond (a bit more $ though).

That is way too big of a rock.

Comparing it to your manhood again? 1.5c ideal cut should be about 1/4" x 1/4". :p
 

DBL

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Mar 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Just my opinion, anything over 1ct is a waste.

Not only is the price higher, but a HUGE rock on her finger is going to actually be a liability. Not only is it worth more if it were to be lost or stolen, it's more likely to get snagged on anything and everything.

If you have to get such a big stone, consider a 6 prong setting that's lower to the band to protect the stone. If you get a GIA certified stone, make sure it's laser engraved on the girdle. If not, it's just been GIA certified by a jeweler that's taken a certification class....which is not the same thing.

I've heard others say they've had good luck buying online, etc... I personally believe that if you can't see the stone and compare its quality to other, similar stones, you don't really know what you're getting. I got my wife a .80 ct, G, VS1, Ideal cut. It's the perfect size for the setting...if it were any bigger it wouldn't look right....also it's more balanced than a larger stone, but it still wasn't cheap.

I can't seem to find 6 prong settings on bluenile for a princess cut solitaire.

BTW, did you get your ring insured? If so, how that that process work?

My wife and I have all of our jewelry/watches/whatever insured. It's included in the home owner's insurance policy. If any individual item is over $10k (I think it's $10k, but it might depend on the insurer) they want appraisals, but your jeweler should furnish them anyway.

What insurance? You should check out whether that is true. Normally, you need a rider for items such as watches and diamond rings. I would not assume that they are covered under a general policy.



 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: waggy
heh expensive engagement rings are a huge rip off. you buy her a $10k ring then another one for the wedding.

unless you are makeing $300k a year its nuts.

i would rather put that 10k to a house or something that is actually usefull.

My wife's wedding ring wasn't nearly as expensive as her engagement ring. It was only ~$300. Fortunately my wedding ring was only $70, because I lost it about 6 months after we got married. :p I swear my cats must have taken it somewhere and hidden it.

I'm with Scarpozzi on getting a smaller diamond that is higher quality.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Just my opinion, anything over 1ct is a waste.

Not only is the price higher, but a HUGE rock on her finger is going to actually be a liability. Not only is it worth more if it were to be lost or stolen, it's more likely to get snagged on anything and everything.

If you have to get such a big stone, consider a 6 prong setting that's lower to the band to protect the stone. If you get a GIA certified stone, make sure it's laser engraved on the girdle. If not, it's just been GIA certified by a jeweler that's taken a certification class....which is not the same thing.

I've heard others say they've had good luck buying online, etc... I personally believe that if you can't see the stone and compare its quality to other, similar stones, you don't really know what you're getting. I got my wife a .80 ct, G, VS1, Ideal cut. It's the perfect size for the setting...if it were any bigger it wouldn't look right....also it's more balanced than a larger stone, but it still wasn't cheap.

I can't seem to find 6 prong settings on bluenile for a princess cut solitaire.

BTW, did you get your ring insured? If so, how that that process work?

My wife and I have all of our jewelry/watches/whatever insured. It's included in the home owner's insurance policy. If any individual item is over $10k (I think it's $10k, but it might depend on the insurer) they want appraisals, but your jeweler should furnish them anyway.

What insurance? You should check out whether that is true. Normally, you need a rider for items such as watches and diamond rings. I would not assume that they are covered under a general policy.

I'm not entirely familiar with the vernacular of insurance, but if "rider" is it then that's what we have :D It was a separate inclusion for our policy, so it wasn't covered under the general policy.

We use Geico.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: waggy
heh expensive engagement rings are a huge rip off. you buy her a $10k ring then another one for the wedding.

unless you are makeing $300k a year its nuts.

i would rather put that 10k to a house or something that is actually usefull.

Why do people bother even adding these posts in diamond-related threads? And to actually put some silly salary requirement on the value?

wwll if you are makeing $500 in say TN i don't think $14k is going ot bother you.


not to mention its ninsane ot get that expensive of a ring anyway. 1.5 ct is far to large. i have to agree with others on getting a smaller better cut.

 

Chryso

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Nov 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Aharami
dude, why are you buying from there? prices there are ridiculously high. They were quoting me 10K for a 1 carat VS1 ring! i was able to find a better ring for half the price on blue nile

I am purchasing the 1.5ct ring from bluenile. We tried rings on at Baily Banks & Biddle, and we initially found one we liked there. But I went home and did some searching, and found a much better diamond (a bit more $ though).

That is way too big of a rock.

Comparing it to your manhood again? 1.5c ideal cut should be about 1/4" x 1/4". :p

I think that anything over a carat looks gaudy.
 

krunchykrome

Lifer
Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: waggy
heh expensive engagement rings are a huge rip off. you buy her a $10k ring then another one for the wedding.

unless you are makeing $300k a year its nuts.

i would rather put that 10k to a house or something that is actually usefull.

Why do people bother even adding these posts in diamond-related threads? And to actually put some silly salary requirement on the value?

wwll if you are makeing $500 in say TN i don't think $14k is going ot bother you.


not to mention its ninsane ot get that expensive of a ring anyway. 1.5 ct is far to large. i have to agree with others on getting a smaller better cut.

The ring I've picked out is a VS1, very good cut, H color diamond. There's not much I can improve on besides the color. I have looked at colorless diamonds in person and compared them to G and H color diamonds, and there is barely any visible difference.

So, it's just a matter of getting something in the 1.25 range or the 1.5 rock.
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Aharami
dude, why are you buying from there? prices there are ridiculously high. They were quoting me 10K for a 1 carat VS1 ring! i was able to find a better ring for half the price on blue nile

I am purchasing the 1.5ct ring from bluenile. We tried rings on at Baily Banks & Biddle, and we initially found one we liked there. But I went home and did some searching, and found a much better diamond (a bit more $ though).

That is way too big of a rock.

Comparing it to your manhood again? 1.5c ideal cut should be about 1/4" x 1/4". :p

I think that anything over a carat looks gaudy.

i agree.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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I went to africa to get mine. I figured it would mean more to her if I had kill for it.

 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Just my opinion, anything over 1ct is a waste.

Not only is the price higher, but a HUGE rock on her finger is going to actually be a liability. Not only is it worth more if it were to be lost or stolen, it's more likely to get snagged on anything and everything.

If you have to get such a big stone, consider a 6 prong setting that's lower to the band to protect the stone. If you get a GIA certified stone, make sure it's laser engraved on the girdle. If not, it's just been GIA certified by a jeweler that's taken a certification class....which is not the same thing.

I've heard others say they've had good luck buying online, etc... I personally believe that if you can't see the stone and compare its quality to other, similar stones, you don't really know what you're getting. I got my wife a .80 ct, G, VS1, Ideal cut. It's the perfect size for the setting...if it were any bigger it wouldn't look right....also it's more balanced than a larger stone, but it still wasn't cheap.

Huh? A GIA cert means that the stone was evaluated by the GIA. That is not something any Jeweler with a certification class can do. Besides, laser engraving is a separate process and has nothing to do with the GIA cert itself. Laser engraving can be done by GIA as well as many other places.

Also, laser engraving can be easily be polished off.

Regardless of the size of the stone, you are probably going to want a rider on your insurance policy to cover accidental loss or theft, especially if it is going to be worn every day (which it will).
1. I know a GIA cert means the stone was evaluated by the GIA.
2. I went to 2 local jewelers that told me stones were GIA certified when in fact they weren't ACTUALLY certified, they were just rated by the jewelers that went through the course I mentioned and they appraised the stones and signed off on them.
3. The engraved number can be polished off, but when I take her ring to get it cleaned or rhodium plated (white gold), I don't have to worry about the jeweler switching the stone. It's identified easily by me and 30x magnification.
4. If nothing else, having a laser engraved number that small on the diamond is REALLY cool. I'd never seen anything that precise before because you have to zoom in so much to see it.

 

krunchykrome

Lifer
Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Just my opinion, anything over 1ct is a waste.

Not only is the price higher, but a HUGE rock on her finger is going to actually be a liability. Not only is it worth more if it were to be lost or stolen, it's more likely to get snagged on anything and everything.

If you have to get such a big stone, consider a 6 prong setting that's lower to the band to protect the stone. If you get a GIA certified stone, make sure it's laser engraved on the girdle. If not, it's just been GIA certified by a jeweler that's taken a certification class....which is not the same thing.

I've heard others say they've had good luck buying online, etc... I personally believe that if you can't see the stone and compare its quality to other, similar stones, you don't really know what you're getting. I got my wife a .80 ct, G, VS1, Ideal cut. It's the perfect size for the setting...if it were any bigger it wouldn't look right....also it's more balanced than a larger stone, but it still wasn't cheap.

Huh? A GIA cert means that the stone was evaluated by the GIA. That is not something any Jeweler with a certification class can do. Besides, laser engraving is a separate process and has nothing to do with the GIA cert itself. Laser engraving can be done by GIA as well as many other places.

Also, laser engraving can be easily be polished off.

Regardless of the size of the stone, you are probably going to want a rider on your insurance policy to cover accidental loss or theft, especially if it is going to be worn every day (which it will).
1. I know a GIA cert means the stone was evaluated by the GIA.
2. I went to 2 local jewelers that told me stones were GIA certified when in fact they weren't ACTUALLY certified, they were just rated by the jewelers that went through the course I mentioned and they appraised the stones and signed off on them.
3. The engraved number can be polished off, but when I take her ring to get it cleaned or rhodium plated (white gold), I don't have to worry about the jeweler switching the stone. It's identified easily by me and 30x magnification.
4. If nothing else, having a laser engraved number that small on the diamond is REALLY cool. I'd never seen anything that precise before because you have to zoom in so much to see it.

As long as the diamond comes with one of these, I am happy.
 

DBL

Platinum Member
Mar 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
1. I know a GIA cert means the stone was evaluated by the GIA.
2. I went to 2 local jewelers that told me stones were GIA certified when in fact they weren't ACTUALLY certified, they were just rated by the jewelers that went through the course I mentioned and they appraised the stones and signed off on them.
3. The engraved number can be polished off, but when I take her ring to get it cleaned or rhodium plated (white gold), I don't have to worry about the jeweler switching the stone. It's identified easily by me and 30x magnification.
4. If nothing else, having a laser engraved number that small on the diamond is REALLY cool. I'd never seen anything that precise before because you have to zoom in so much to see it.

Nothing wrong with getting it engraved it that is your preference. Some people think it's some sort of permanent identification and I was just pointing out that this is not the case.

If a stone is GIA certed, then it comes with a GIA certificate which the Jeweler should be able to provide to you before the sale is made. Certainly, you need to get the cert when purchasing a GIA stone. In addition, a good jeweler can show you the inclusions through a loop and how they match up to the cert.




 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Dont listen to all the lonely retards on here that say you are stupid for buying a diamond for your GF. It's just their way of masking their inadequacy with idealism so they can justify their complete failure in trying to consort with the opposite sex.

Not to mention many of these poor sods don't have $1000 to their names yet alone $10k+
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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diamondtalk.com is a good resource. I used an online merchant that had the very stone I wanted for a great price. Had it shipped to a stone appraiser here locally (RockDoc actually from the forums there) and everything speced out right. I saved about 50% of retail prices locally and found a better stone than the local vendors had as well.
 

Spook

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Nov 29, 1999
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The wife and I aren't happy because of the size of the ring I put on her finger
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Dont listen to all the lonely retards on here that say you are stupid for buying a diamond for your GF. It's just their way of masking their inadequacy with idealism so they can justify their complete failure in trying to consort with the opposite sex.

Not to mention many of these poor sods don't have $1000 to their names yet alone $10k+

and some think there is better ways to spend the money.
 

DBL

Platinum Member
Mar 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Aharami
dude, why are you buying from there? prices there are ridiculously high. They were quoting me 10K for a 1 carat VS1 ring! i was able to find a better ring for half the price on blue nile

I am purchasing the 1.5ct ring from bluenile. We tried rings on at Baily Banks & Biddle, and we initially found one we liked there. But I went home and did some searching, and found a much better diamond (a bit more $ though).

That is way too big of a rock.

Comparing it to your manhood again? 1.5c ideal cut should be about 1/4" x 1/4". :p

I think that anything over a carat looks gaudy.

In my experience, this is just a defense mechanism used by women. The size which is considered "too big" really only depends on geographic location and accessibility.

That being said, purchasing a 1.5ct ring is not the smartest financial decision solely b/c of the premium attached to a 1.5 ct stone. You're best bet is to get something between 1.35 and 1.49 (good luck finding a 1.49). You'll save a bundle.




 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Dont listen to all the lonely retards on here that say you are stupid for buying a diamond for your GF. It's just their way of masking their inadequacy with idealism so they can justify their complete failure in trying to consort with the opposite sex.

Thanks for your baseless, superfical, and mindless comment.
 

Jugernot

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
You're a sucker if she's forcing you (or guilting you, or you feel compelled) to blow more cash on it than you feel comfortable doing.

EDIT: But congratulations! :heart:

Exactly what I was thinking... I never did understand why people spend a good downpayment on a house on a fuggin ring. The engagement ring my wife picked out was a little less than a grand.... luckily she doesn't like diamonds and prefers blue saphires. Plus the $4-8K I saved went toward our house which I'm renovating.... ohhh and when we went to Vegas to get married, we had a couple of grand more to have fun with. :)
 

DBL

Platinum Member
Mar 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jugernot
Exactly what I was thinking... I never did understand why people spend a good downpayment on a house on a fuggin ring. The engagement ring my wife picked out was a little less than a grand.... luckily she doesn't like diamonds and prefers blue saphires. Plus the $4-8K I saved went toward our house which I'm renovating.... ohhh and when we went to Vegas to get married, we had a couple of grand more to have fun with. :)

You make a valid point but then totally discredit yourself by admitting that you used some of the money saved on a ring to throw away gambling. Everybody has their own priorities and these often include the ability indulge in a certain amount of discretionary spending. An engagement ring falls into this category.
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Dont listen to all the lonely retards on here that say you are stupid for buying a diamond for your GF. It's just their way of masking their inadequacy with idealism so they can justify their complete failure in trying to consort with the opposite sex.

Not to mention many of these poor sods don't have $1000 to their names yet alone $10k+

Sorry that poverty is such a moral crime for you. There are also better things to spend my scarce money on.

Not everyone who advocates for not buying diamonds is a failure with the opposite sex. The ring I got was under $1000 - Here . Blue and white sapphires with white gold, we both think it's lovely and she gets loads of compliments on it; if you care about that. I gave her the ring in Galway Bay on St.Patricks day eve before we headed to Dublin.

Here's hoping you guys figure a few things out! :beer:



edit - And congrats to the OP! :beer: :D :wine: :cookie: :beer:

 

Jugernot

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Jugernot
Exactly what I was thinking... I never did understand why people spend a good downpayment on a house on a fuggin ring. The engagement ring my wife picked out was a little less than a grand.... luckily she doesn't like diamonds and prefers blue saphires. Plus the $4-8K I saved went toward our house which I'm renovating.... ohhh and when we went to Vegas to get married, we had a couple of grand more to have fun with. :)

You make a valid point but then totally discredit yourself by admitting that you used some of the money saved on a ring to throw away gambling. Everybody has their own priorities and these often include the ability indulge in a certain amount of discretionary spending. An engagement ring falls into this category.

Sorry dude, while you assume I meant gambling, I didn't.

We went to a bunch of shows (Carrot top, David Copperfield, a couple of topless reviews) , drove to the grand canyon, did the damn tour, stayed in a suite all 8 nights, and ate at a lot of 5 star restaurants my wife has always wanted to try. We did things that we'll remember for the rest of our lives... to this day we see something on tv and say "Hey, we did that! That was awesome!"

btw, we only gambled $170... which $150 was from my wife on the 25cent slots. :D