i'm drinking shark fin soup yumm

[SinNisTeR]

keep the fins where they belong.. on the shark please. :disgust::frown:

 

[habib89]

i love shark fin soup.. so delicious.. do i care about sharks? sure.. but i care more about having tasty soup.. so sorry sharks...

btw, it can cost up to $100 for enough fin to make a pot of soup... it's big time expensive..

 

[pillage2001]

<< keep the fins where they belong.. on the shark please. :disgust::frown: >>



Keep the meat where they belong, on the cow. Keep the fish back in the sea. Back to where they belong. Logic??? The ecosystem behaves this way, I eat fish, fish eat something else and something else eats something else. The cycle goes on.

They don't just kill the sharks for the fins. They have many uses for it.

 

[conjur]

<< They don't just kill the sharks for the fins. They have many uses for it. >>



Do you honestly believe that????

 

[pillage2001]

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<< They don't just kill the sharks for the fins. They have many uses for it. >>



Do you honestly believe that???? >>



Well, at least they say so and I come from a place where I can get them easily. Health products are being made from them.

I'm sure they're killed for more than their fin. Oh yeah, they are killed for the meat too.

 

[jpsj82]

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<< Oh man, stop bashing the man. He's just merely enjoying the soup. He's not the one cutting and killing sharks. I believe that they are controlling the killing now. IF you want to question what he eats, why don't you guys stop eating meat??? >>

if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks. i am sorry, but i don't see your logic. >>

I don't see your logic.. you are saying that if he doesn't eat shark fin soup then no one else would? that is a slippery slope logic right there... so is the no eating meat thing... >>

let me introduce you to something called english. when someone writes a sentence with the word 'and', as i did, they mean that their statement is true for both what comes right before the 'and' and what comes after the 'and'.
So when i say "if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks." i mean if he didn't eat the soup AND other people choose not to eat it then no one would cut the fins off of sharks.

 

[Static911]

Good stuff...my grandma always makes me a HUGE pot full when I come up to SF

Static911

 

[joemamma]

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And, wrt to cows (and toss in pigs or other animals bred for food), at least they are not maimed and left unable to function physically, destined to die a slow, tortuous death.

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i read a report (in a magazine i can't remember, maybe newsweek)that cows were being mistreated. in fact they were being skinned alive and the flesh was being ripped off the cow while alive on the meathook.

i don't understand how you can oppose killing sharks for food and not opposed when you kill cows for meat cos i see no difference between the two.

 

[rgwalt]

<< If the sharks were being farmed, I would have no problem with it.

what?! that makes no sense, you're basically saying that the value of the life of one creature is greater than that of another creature, with the only difference being the circumstances under which they were brought into this world. i'm no vegan or anything, but i think that argument is flawed. >>



An animal that is farmed is not a part of the eco-system it was intended to live in. Taking wild game puts pressure on their eco-system and food chain. Take deer and mountain lions (couger, whatever). Natural predators of deer have been eliminated from many regions of the nation by hunting/poisoning/extermination. As a consequence, humans have to control the deer population by hunting and other means.

I'm not talking about the "value" of an animals life based on intrinsic merit here... I'm talking about wide-scale environmental impact. Now on the other hand, if we show that fishing these sharks doesn't cause a decline in their population, then I say go for it. Take for example lobsters... Believe it or not, the fishing of lobsters off the coast of Maine hasn't caused a problem with their population. The same can't be said for many fishing industries though. I don't care for fish anyway, so I don't have much of a problem ;0).

Ryan

 

[pillage2001]

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<< Oh man, stop bashing the man. He's just merely enjoying the soup. He's not the one cutting and killing sharks. I believe that they are controlling the killing now. IF you want to question what he eats, why don't you guys stop eating meat??? >>

if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks. i am sorry, but i don't see your logic. >>

I don't see your logic.. you are saying that if he doesn't eat shark fin soup then no one else would? that is a slippery slope logic right there... so is the no eating meat thing... >>

let me introduce you to something called english. when someone writes a sentence with the word 'and', as i did, they mean that their statement is true for both what comes right before the 'and' and what comes after the 'and'.
So when i say "if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks." i mean if he didn't eat the soup AND other people choose not to eat it then no one would cut the fins off of sharks. >>



Too bad someone started eating. There's no way to prevent something like this besides extinction. Again, if people never did eat MEAT at all, we'll see more cows walking down the street.

I'm not bashing the meat eaters.

 

[Bluga]

Discovery

Although the hunting of basking sharks is banned in certain countries, it continues in many other waters worldwide. (Finning is illegal in Atlantic U.S. waters.) In April a proposal to protect basking sharks worldwide failed to pass at the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species. Watterson and others see the fisheries debate as a vast and frustrating bargaining game.

news

The campaign is focusing on sustainable fishing. "We are not saying people should not eat shark fin soup, but if people want to be able to enjoy it in the future we need to reduce consumption and control the shark trade so that it is sustainable," WildAid's executive director, Mr Peter Knights, said.

CNN

Long-line fishing boats lay out miles of baited hooks for tuna and other food fish. They unavoidably catch sharks in the process.

 

[jpsj82]

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<< Oh man, stop bashing the man. He's just merely enjoying the soup. He's not the one cutting and killing sharks. I believe that they are controlling the killing now. IF you want to question what he eats, why don't you guys stop eating meat??? >>

if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks. i am sorry, but i don't see your logic. >>




What about killing cows for their meat?? Do you think they love to be slaughtered?? >>

there are a few differences between cows and sharks.

1. cows are raised from birth to die for there meat, sharks were not

1. cows are killed, however they are killed in a humane way, unlike the sharks who are not killed, the fins are just cut right off while they are alive. then they are put back into the ocean, while alive.

 

[joemamma]

<< cows are killed, however they are killed in a humane way, unlike the sharks who are not killed, the fins are just cut right off while they are alive. then they are put back into the ocean, while alive >>



please, you must be living in another world if you honestly believe that cows are killed in a humane way. i don't understand how you can be so opinionated on shark's (when you probably never even tried the soup) and so oblivious to how the meat industry works.

 

[rgwalt]

<< Keep the meat where they belong, on the cow. Keep the fish back in the sea. Back to where they belong. Logic??? The ecosystem behaves this way, I eat fish, fish eat something else and something else eats something else. The cycle goes on. >>



The thing is that you don't necessarily belong in the eco-system with that shark. Humans are omnivores. However, through technology we've learned to support a much larger population than 2000 years ago. Large amounts of farmland are necessary to support that population, along with large herds of animals. If we were to try to survive with our current consumption of meat on what was naturally produced in the wild, we would run out of meat (and animals) very quickly.

Ryan

 

[pillage2001]

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<< Oh man, stop bashing the man. He's just merely enjoying the soup. He's not the one cutting and killing sharks. I believe that they are controlling the killing now. IF you want to question what he eats, why don't you guys stop eating meat??? >>

if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks. i am sorry, but i don't see your logic. >>




What about killing cows for their meat?? Do you think they love to be slaughtered?? >>

there are a few differences between cows and sharks.

1. cows are raised from birth to die for there meat, sharks were not

1. cows are killed, however they are killed in a humane way, unlike the sharks who are not killed, the fins are just cut right off while they are alive. then they are put back into the ocean, while alive.

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Are all cows killed in a humane way?? Can you guarantee it?? I've seen some which are not.

As for the sharks. I won't say that they're ALL killed in a humane way but most are and their meat is served as dishes too.

Why would you say that cows were raised to be killed. If nobody started eating it, do you think it's raised to be killed?? What if human started eating sharks first??

 

[SinNisTeR]

pillage2001

i dont see a shortage of cows anywhere.. i dont have a problem with eating sharks, but when its done when there isnt an abundance of sharks, it becomes my concern. whats your favorite endangered animal? tiger?

HEY EVERYBODY, LETS HAVE SOME TIGER TOE SOUP. MMMMM YUMMMY! /end sarcasm. :disgust:

 

[rgwalt]

Thanks for the info Bluga. I do appreciate it. However, these sharks are being killed for their fins. Granted sometimes it is accidental, but guidelines need to be set for sustainable fishing. Heck, if you can take game without significantly impacting the eco-system, be my guest and I'll eat up.

I will not however eat turtle soup. Not for environmental reasons or anything, but the poor guys don't even have a chance. They are so slow and dumb, I just feel sorry for them. I have no problem with other people eating it, and it is an irrational feeling of compasion, but I still feel that way.

Ryan

 

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<< Oh man, stop bashing the man. He's just merely enjoying the soup. He's not the one cutting and killing sharks. I believe that they are controlling the killing now. IF you want to question what he eats, why don't you guys stop eating meat??? >>

if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks. i am sorry, but i don't see your logic. >>




What about killing cows for their meat?? Do you think they love to be slaughtered?? >>

there are a few differences between cows and sharks.

1. cows are raised from birth to die for there meat, sharks were not

1. cows are killed, however they are killed in a humane way, unlike the sharks who are not killed, the fins are just cut right off while they are alive. then they are put back into the ocean, while alive.

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So if people farmed sharks, cut off their fins, and dumped the rest in the trash it would be peachy keen to you? Right..................

Get a grip. How do you think cows are killed? We serenade them with Kenny G till they become numb then we delicately stop their breathing before we process them? Please, it's hack hack, plop plop, slice slice.

 

[pillage2001]

<< pillage2001

i dont see a shortage of cows anywhere.. i dont have a problem with eating sharks, but when its done when there isnt an abundance of sharks, it becomes my concern. whats your favorite endangered animal? tiger?

HEY EVERYBODY, LETS HAVE SOME TIGER TOE SOUP. MMMMM YUMMMY! /end sarcasm. :disgust: >>



NOT all kinds of shark are killed for the fins. Yes, they were endangered and they have been controlled ever since.

Again, there are loads of things that people eats beside sharks. Tiger?? Yes. You name it, they eat it.

 

[rgwalt]

<< So if people farmed sharks, cut off their fins, and dumped the rest in the trash it would be peachy keen to you? Right.................. >>



No, I don't think most people would be keen with this, but at least it wouldn't put pressure on the eco-system. Besides, if the sharks were commercially raised, companies would NEVER throw away the rest. They would take the carcas and at the very least grind it up for cat food or hot dogs. The only reason it isn't done in commercial fishing is that hauling a dead fish to shore in a boat costs money, and it may be economically more viable to simply leave the carcas at sea.

I'm all for the humane treatment of animals, but killing something is killing something. Lets not kid ourselves here.

Ryan

 

[jpsj82]

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<< Oh man, stop bashing the man. He's just merely enjoying the soup. He's not the one cutting and killing sharks. I believe that they are controlling the killing now. IF you want to question what he eats, why don't you guys stop eating meat??? >>

if he didn't eat the soup and others didn't eat the soup then no one would cut the fins off of sharks. i am sorry, but i don't see your logic. >>




What about killing cows for their meat?? Do you think they love to be slaughtered?? >>

there are a few differences between cows and sharks.

1. cows are raised from birth to die for there meat, sharks were not

1. cows are killed, however they are killed in a humane way, unlike the sharks who are not killed, the fins are just cut right off while they are alive. then they are put back into the ocean, while alive.

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So if people farmed sharks, cut off their fins, and dumped the rest in the trash it would be peachy keen to you? Right..................

Get a grip. How do you think cows are killed? We serenade them with Kenny G till they become numb then we delicately stop their breathing before we process them? Please, it's hack hack, plop plop, slice slice. >>

Well I don't think farming sharks would work (the cost of the soup would go up a lot and no one would buy it). I will not go into the reasons why I feel the price would go up, but trust me it would (ok, basic reason: tank - you need a big one to raise them, because you are farming them you need to follow other rules/laws (ie no more international waters claim), and you would have to raise them yourself (food $ extra)).

Now how cows are killed compared to sharks. Hmm, oh yes cows are killed and sharks are not. The cows are killed in one blow (ie hit in the head with big weight) and sharks just have their fins removed (while they are alive) and are tossed back into the water to die (while they are still alive).

 

[Hoeboy]

shark fin soup is the sh!t!!! probably one, if not the most, expensive item on the menu. it's more expensive than abalone ya?

i'm bout to goto the nearest chinese restaurant and order me some shark fin soup. all this debating has gotten me hungry ;P in the near future campbell will be canning shark fin soup. umm umm good!

 

[pillage2001]

AGAIN PEOPLE. NOT ALL SHARKS ARE BEING TOSSED INTO THE SEA AFTER BEING STIPPED OFF THEIR FINS!!!!!

I would agree that it's cruel to cut and dump them back into the sea but you have to see that there's a good way of killing them too. They are harvested for more than just their fins!!!!!!!!

 

[bcterps]

Mmmm, shark fin soup. It's almost as good as Peregrine Falcon Stew.

I think I'll go put on my mink fur coat and go out and get some!

--Ben

 

[HamSupLo]

I bet that wasn't shark fin in his soup, probably vermicelli!