I'm concerned about my nephew, the uber-geek

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DWW

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Originally posted by: Borracho
The parents should limit his time on the computer. That is my plan with my kids at least, I don't want any sissy computer nerd for a son or daughter. I?m not talking about no computer because kids should be able to function in a computer literate society, but unlimited access is just as bad as a 13 year old smoking or drinking imo.

Yeah right. Friend and I have been programming since he was 12 and I was 9 years old. He is now 21, heads a programming company and has his first house (at 21). He spent tons of time becoming a great programmer and it has paid off.
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Borracho
The parents should limit his time on the computer. That is my plan with my kids at least, I don't want any sissy computer nerd for a son or daughter. I?m not talking about no computer because kids should be able to function in a computer literate society, but unlimited access is just as bad as a 13 year old smoking or drinking imo.

Yeah right. Friend and I have been programming since he was 12 and I was 9 years old. He is now 21, heads a programming company and has his first house (at 21). He spent tons of time becoming a great programmer and it has paid off.

That isn't the case here. This kid has no skills other than basic windows stuff (installing software, changing the desktop, etc.) I would be overjoyed if he had the slightest interest in learning a programming language.
 

Nanotech

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Originally posted by: marquee
show him a picture of a hot girl, and tell him if he ever wants to meet one in real life, he needs to get off the computer.

That's about the best you can do I'm afraid
 

Kenazo

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I think you are posting this on the wrong forum, a lot of the ppl here have a monitor-tan.
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Borracho
The parents should limit his time on the computer. That is my plan with my kids at least, I don't want any sissy computer nerd for a son or daughter. I?m not talking about no computer because kids should be able to function in a computer literate society, but unlimited access is just as bad as a 13 year old smoking or drinking imo.

Yeah right. Friend and I have been programming since he was 12 and I was 9 years old. He is now 21, heads a programming company and has his first house (at 21). He spent tons of time becoming a great programmer and it has paid off.

That isn't the case here. This kid has no skills other than basic windows stuff (installing software, changing the desktop, etc.) I would be overjoyed if he had the slightest interest in learning a programming language.

I know what you are saying but the other guy made comp skills that are more than average sound bad ;)

My recommendation would be to coax him into programming. The thing that got me into programming was that I could write my own games (albeit crappy 2D ones at the time in QBASIC). Now I enjoy playing games still but don't code them anymore as interests are elsewhere.

I think it could work. You could even do some handholding since you were into programming at once and still know the essentials (style, testing, debugging, tweaking, clarity etc). I think that'd be great for him and you. Just tell him he can write his own games eventually :) It should work...hell half my class at college only got into programming cause they wanted to make games.
 

Borracho

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Borracho
The parents should limit his time on the computer. That is my plan with my kids at least, I don't want any sissy computer nerd for a son or daughter. I?m not talking about no computer because kids should be able to function in a computer literate society, but unlimited access is just as bad as a 13 year old smoking or drinking imo.

Yeah right. Friend and I have been programming since he was 12 and I was 9 years old. He is now 21, heads a programming company and has his first house (at 21). He spent tons of time becoming a great programmer and it has paid off.


Hey if you can make it pay that?s fine, but I find that playing games and looking at porn doesn't pay the bills to well. If my kid had a talent like programming, I'd try to nurture that just like if he was a great athlete. You have to support your kids but shouldn't cripple them either by letting them do what ever they want; most don?t know what the hell they are doing. Again its all just my opinion.
 

waggy

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heh ATOTs telling people to limit the time on the computer?

yeah good group to say that!
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: waggy
heh ATOTs telling people to limit the time on the computer?

yeah good group to say that!
Yeah, and I definitely wouldn't be taking the advise from Lifers about this topic. ;)

 

Techie333

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SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THIS: make his parents make him join some extracirricular stuff/activities/clubs/whatever! Seriously! Whether it's sports or something like the debate club or chess club (last resort ONLY). get him involved in something else!
 

warcrow

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill, but I have some real concerns about my nephew's lifestyle.

To put it as simply as possible, he's married to his computer at age 13. He bragged to me the other day about how he plays games on his pc from the moment he wakes up to the second he goes to bed. His skin tone is starting to get that pale green geek glow. He completely looks like a geek, has no social skills, and has no life.

Granted, I was a lot like him when I was his age. But to my credit, while I spent a lot of time playing games, I also spent a lot of time teaching myself programming languages and how to repair pc hardware. I don't think he has any real pc skills, other than knowing how to use Windows. And I still played baseball / football with the guys and made (usually failed) attempts at getting female companionship. So I guess I feel like my computer time back then was somewhat constuctive, while his computer time focuses largely on learning the ins and outs of deathmatch.

Do I worry too much? I see this guy having a very lonely life ahead of him. He really looks up to me, so I'd like to steer him the right direction if possible.


Its good that you care enough to be worried, Ned. It good he has an interest in something he can make a career out of (I mean getting involved with computers). At 13, he should be out doing toher things too. I know too many geeks that lack social skills. These are incredibily important in life! Does he like soccer, football? Hell, even if you joined a computer club at the Boysclub would be good. Something to get him involved....
 

PanzerIV

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NuclearNed why don't you take him out to a game, fishing or the park or something similar to make sure he's getting some fresh air once in awhile and show him there are other things in life than computers. It doesn't sound like your nephew's parents are doing much of that with him.
 

HappyPuppy

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Take him fishing. Fishing is the most addictive pasttime known to man. Just be sure he catches a few his first time out.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Take him fishing. Fishing is the most addictive pasttime known to man. Just be sure he catches a few his first time out.
No kidding. When I came home from school I used to bass fish with my friends until I had to go inside.

Then I stayed on the computer all night. :p
 

tkdkid

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Originally posted by: PanzerIV
NuclearNed why don't you take him out to a game, fishing or the park or something similar to make sure he's getting some fresh air once in awhile and show him there are other things in life than computers. It doesn't sound like your nephew's parents are doing much of that with him.

I agree.

He doesn't want to spend his life connected to a computer. He just doesn't know of anything else that makes him happy. Or maybe put another way, he doesn't know how to get any enjoyment out of doing anything else.
 

wayliff

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I started playing computer games when I was around 10.
I used to spend a lot of time with the computer...however I never wanted to miss school. I played two hours of soccer or basketball during the day. I also played computer games during the weekend and sometimes I would not go out because I was playing.
I would not do that every weekend, I'd also go out to the movies with friends...play soccer and basketball for hours.

Nobody told me I should not play computer games for the rest of my life.
I figured that out from the very beginning...I still enjoy them and play a moderate to low amount of time. I am 23.

I'd say if the kid does not show interest for other things, then the parents need to sit down with him and explain it to him.
Or maybe you as an uncle should invite him to do sports or something different.
I'd start by going and doing different things that relate to what he likes the most...like arcade games...then you can slowly show him other activities.

You or the parents need to act now...he is still young.
 

DT4K

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You need to smack those parents around.
Hard.

But if they won't do anything about it, there's not much you can do other than try to get him to do some other activities with you.
 

BCYL

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You are worrying too much... I know people who are 20 yrs old that do that too... he's only 13, will probably grow out of it once he notices and takes interest in girls...
 

her209

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Tell him to quit school and learn to sleep with one eye closed so he can play games non-stop.
 

Epoman

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I think the problem may be his lack of friends? if he had friends to hang out with he may stay off the computer.
My son is almost 7 and he loves his computer however he prefers to play outside with his friends more.

Maybe you could take the time to show him how the "insides" work maybe build one together as a project?
Its still being in front of the computer however at least he will be learning something usefull rather than just
learning to FRAG someone.

Also you mentioned he's 13 are sure its games he's looking at all the time, maybe he has the game open in case someone walks in the room. I know I sure wish I had the Intarweb at 13 ;)