I'm A 'Uniter' . . .

chess9

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Thank God hets aren't doing anything to ruin the sanctity of marriage.

We need a song like "Blame Canada", called "Blame Gays". My tire flatted. "Blame Gays". My wife thinks I"m ugly. "Blame Gays". I don't dress right, er, uh, well, "BLAME GAYS"!

:)

-Robert
 

tallest1

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Check the comments on that article. The people supporting bush are saying some really hateful stuff :|
 

DealMonkey

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<Cue Redneck Accent>

"'Ree-member peeple, mah values arr yerr values and dem gays and lesbeterians arr ruin'n arr moral and righteousness way o' life. Git r done."

</redneck>
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
<Cue Redneck Accent>

"'Ree-member peeple, mah values arr yerr values and dem gays and lesbeterians arr ruin'n arr moral and righteousness way o' life. Git r done."

</redneck>

Hahaha
 

glenn1

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The Massachussetts alternative isn't much better.

Face it, the only right solution to this problem is to fix what caused it in the first place, namely, government getting involved in the marriage business. Marriage is by its nature a religious construct, and government should no more perform nor sanction marriages any more than they should bah mitzvahs or giving Holy Communion.

If government wishes, they could grant civil unions or an equivalent to any who wish it. That will enable them to continue with their (IMHO stupid) practices of extending certain benefits or charging higher taxes to those who wish for the government to recognize them in a union and treat them accordingly. Those who wish to be married according to their religious principles, can be married according to the standards of their church.

For those who don't understand the concept I'm outlining, consider that the government grants birth certificates, they don't perform or issue Baptism certificates. Everyone gets a birth certificate, only those of faith and who have their child baptised get a Baptism certificate.
 

DealMonkey

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I agree glenn, government should just get out of the marriage business. It really isn't so much a political issue as it is a religious issue. And you know how I feel about government getting into the religion biz. ;)
 

GrGr

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The English managed to kick many of their Puritans across the ocean to the New World during the Restoration. Sadly for the US it can no longer follow the English example due to lack of new territories on Earth. Maybe Bush's idea of expeditions to Mars isn't so stupid after all. :confused:
 
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I gotta say, I have been continually mystified that President Bush keeps bringing this issue back up. It seems to me he gains nothing politically by it (since anyone who even remotely supports this ridiculous notion would vote for him anyway), and loses a certain amount of support among moderates and (particularly) homosexuals.

Even if a person is opposed to gay marriage (which I'm not), this would be a clear misapplication of the amendment process IMO, and to me it trivializes the real importance of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

To his credit, this is obviously an issue with real, personal importance to the President, and part of me appreciates that he is doing this out of his own convictions, rather than political expediency. I respect that sincerity.

That said, I think it's an offensive, laughably stupid idea, and it seriously makes me wonder what kinds of gems the White House will come up with if President Bush is elected to a second term, and no longer has to worry about being re-elected.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I agree glenn, government should just get out of the marriage business. ;)

I agree, it should be a issue handled by the people. Put it up for a vote....Can you say o.v.e.r.w.h.e.l.m.i.n.g. m.a.j.o.r.i.t.y.....................
 

daveshel

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"If courts create their own arbitrary definition of marriage as a mere legal contract, and cut marriage off from its cultural, religious and natural roots, then the meaning of marriage is lost and the institution is weakened."

Acutally, I thought divorce already did that.
 

jackschmittusa

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Agree that marraige is a religeous act. The only reason for the government to take any interest is that it may infer from the act itself what some of the wishes of the participants in the event they cannot speak for themselves. The government might infer that it would be the wish of a deceased spouse to leave his/her worldly goods to the surviving spouse in the absence of any instructions otherwise. That by commiting to the act of marriage, the participants meant to convey rights of inheritance to their offsping.

Beyond such limited interests, the government should just mind its own business.
 

SViscusi

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I agree glenn, government should just get out of the marriage business. ;)

I agree, it should be a issue handled by the people. Put it up for a vote....Can you say o.v.e.r.w.h.e.l.m.i.n.g. m.a.j.o.r.i.t.y.....................

The same could be said about slavery 150 years ago. The majority was wrong then, it's wrong now.