I'm a liberal but I now want Bush to win.

[SickBeast]

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

Just remember that when he invades Canada! :Q

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: SickBeast

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

Just remember that when he invades Canada! :Q

All your moose are belong to us.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: SickBeast

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

Just remember that when he invades Canada! :Q

I've said it before and I'll say it again. As long as Canada has Celine Dion and Nickelback, you guys are completely safe from a US invasion. They are every bit as good as a missile defense shield.

We are open to a Rush/Justin Timberlake trade though, as a guarantee.

😉

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: SickBeast

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

Just remember that when he invades Canada! :Q

All your moose are belong to us.

Nah, we have the French in Quebec. They seem to be a thorn in Bush's side. Besides, I think a US invasion of Canada would be eerily reminiscent of Germany's invasion of Russia in WWII. You guys would all freeze to death. :beer:

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

In the long term don't you think you'll suffer?

If he really keeps up his ways he will destroy the US economy and it seems like that would be bad for Canada, no?

 

[Vic]

I'd happily take that Rush exchange, but I doubt they would come considering how Alex got treated last year in Florida.

Welcome to the New Conservatives, people. Robber barons come to steal and sell of every drop of our country's wealth with their "Borrow and spend" fiscal policies.

I ask you, Republicans, how are you NOT liberals when you support such policies? Freakin' hypocrites. My ENTIRE vote against GW Bush hinges on this single issue.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: SickBeast

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

In the long term don't you think you'll suffer?

If he really keeps up his ways he will destroy the US economy and it seems like that would be bad for Canada, no?

Nah, once our dollars are on par with one another I'll support his exile. 😀

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Vic
I ask you, Republicans, how are you NOT liberals when you support such policies? Freakin' hypocrites. My ENTIRE vote against GW Bush hinges on this single issue.

Well, I say I'm liberal but in reality I share your viewpoint. Politics are the same here in Canada. The Conservatives here propose cutting taxes and increasing military spending. You can't have your cake and eat it too. I would vote Conservative if their economic platform appeared sound to me. The way it is now, they look like they're buying votes.

 

[Horus]

I don't like Bush. I voted Liberal in the federal and provincial election.

HOWEVER...

The US military is buying a HELLA lot of resources from Canadian companies, including avionics for drones and a LOT of high-quality FMJ ammunition.

Having Bush in the Oval Office may just be the best thing for Canada.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Horus
Having Bush in the Oval Office may just be the best thing for Canada.

Yep, that's the conclusion I've reached myself. 🙂

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Vic
I'd happily take that Rush exchange, but I doubt they would come considering how Alex got treated last year in Florida.

Conflicting stories of what happened. Maybe the police were morons, or maybe Alex got a little out of control? Hard to say.

Welcome to the New Conservatives, people. Robber barons come to steal and sell of every drop of our country's wealth with their "Borrow and spend" fiscal policies.

I ask you, Republicans, how are you NOT liberals when you support such policies? Freakin' hypocrites. My ENTIRE vote against GW Bush hinges on this single issue.

Borrow and spend is not endemic to Republicans.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Borrow and spend is not endemic to Republicans.

But it is to the Bush Administration. And look how they're selling our country away! Hell, he's even buying the Canadian vote. Whee... :roll: with MY tax dollars :| cause pay now, pay later, I still have to pay it someday.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Borrow and spend is not endemic to Republicans.

But it is to the Bush Administration. And look how they're selling our country away!

I heard this same complaint when Reagan was in office. I believed it too. D'oh on me.

Hell, he's even buying the Canadian vote. Whee... :roll: with MY tax dollars :| cause pay now, pay later, I still have to pay it someday.

Since when aren't foreign countries given a slice of the American pie, particularly when they're a good ally like Canada? This is nothing new.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Vic
Hell, he's even buying the Canadian vote. Whee... :roll: with MY tax dollars :| cause pay now, pay later, I still have to pay it someday.

Since when aren't foreign countries given a slice of the American pie, particularly when they're a good ally like Canada? This is nothing new.

Actually this IS new. The Canadian dollar hasn't been this high in over 11 years. I don't remember ever seeing the US in such dire straights economically.

 

[0marTheZealot]

I wouldn't rule out an invasion of Canada.

Under NAFTA, Canada is obliged to serve US interests first when it comes to oil/gas production, even if Canada can't support its own population and the US's. What do you think will happen once Canada starts to divert mroe and more gas/oil to fuel its own needs? There could very possibly be an invasion. Of course, it'll probably come down to compromises first.

 

[Martin]

Bush being the best for Canada? I dunno about that... A recent poll on the Globe and Mail site had Canadians wanting Kerry 2-1.

I think Kerry would be much better, both for Canada (We've seen bush and his tarriff-happy, protectionst admin) and the US. It seems that if he got elected, everything would settle down, return to normal (more or less). But Bush..you can be certain that with him as Prez, much more "interesting" things would happen. But I guess peace and prosperity win over uncertainty and upheavals.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Vic
Hell, he's even buying the Canadian vote. Whee... :roll: with MY tax dollars :| cause pay now, pay later, I still have to pay it someday.

Since when aren't foreign countries given a slice of the American pie, particularly when they're a good ally like Canada? This is nothing new.

Actually this IS new. The Canadian dollar hasn't been this high in over 11 years. I don't remember ever seeing the US in such dire straights economically.

We are in dire straights? That is funny.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
I wouldn't rule out an invasion of Canada.

Under NAFTA, Canada is obliged to serve US interests first when it comes to oil/gas production, even if Canada can't support its own population and the US's. What do you think will happen once Canada starts to divert mroe and more gas/oil to fuel its own needs? There could very possibly be an invasion. Of course, it'll probably come down to compromises first.

If I'm not mistaken, this is actually a part of the Canada-US free trade agreement which predated NAFTA, and more accurately implies that we cannot adopt a new 'National Energy Policy' and not that we are forced to serve US needs before our own.

I highly doubt America will become imperialistic enough to start invading first-world nations, I mean Bush can only have four more years, tops😉

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Vic
Hell, he's even buying the Canadian vote. Whee... :roll: with MY tax dollars :| cause pay now, pay later, I still have to pay it someday.

Since when aren't foreign countries given a slice of the American pie, particularly when they're a good ally like Canada? This is nothing new.

Actually this IS new. The Canadian dollar hasn't been this high in over 11 years. I don't remember ever seeing the US in such dire straights economically.

We are in dire straights? That is funny.

Compared to 5 years ago? Damn straight you're in dire straights. Everything might seem fine now, but you're racking up hella debt, and will continue to do so until the Iraq situation is over.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: SickBeast

?The U.S. is running a massive current account deficit,? explains T.D. economist Craig Alexander. ?It takes $1.8 billion a day of foreign capital to pay for it. So in order to pay for that ? they have to attract an awful lot of foreign money, and when that money isn't readily available, we see the U.S. dollar weakening.?

If Bush gets back in he'll waste more money on Iraq and continue in his neocon ways. While this goes against my personal beliefs, it's not my country and I'm past the point of caring. I've decided to adopt the same attitude Bush used when he invaded Iraq.

Just remember that when he invades Canada! :Q

How can we invade Canadia if our Army is in Iraq ?

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
I wouldn't rule out an invasion of Canada.

Under NAFTA, Canada is obliged to serve US interests first when it comes to oil/gas production, even if Canada can't support its own population and the US's. What do you think will happen once Canada starts to divert mroe and more gas/oil to fuel its own needs? There could very possibly be an invasion. Of course, it'll probably come down to compromises first.

Canada provides the US with 25% of its crude oil, and something like 50-75% of its natural gas. We have a massive energy surplus as a nation, and it's only natural to sell our excess to the US (we have pipelines).

Are you saying that Canada would have to provide oil to the US even if we don't have enough for ourselves? AFAIK we just have to sell you guys our excess.

That said, IMO we should have dirt cheap gas here in Canada which we don't. You can't really make a fair comparison with all the taxes included in gas prices here, but I would be very interested to know what the "tax free" price is in each nation.

NAFTA is great in theory, but in practice people like Bush do nothing but complain and abuse the treaty by imposing illegal tariffs. :thumbsdown:

A hostile takeover of Canada is highly unlikely. The more likely scenario would be Canada becoming a US state (or each province would become a state). This is an interesting theory which has been developing for years.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Vic
Hell, he's even buying the Canadian vote. Whee... :roll: with MY tax dollars :| cause pay now, pay later, I still have to pay it someday.

Since when aren't foreign countries given a slice of the American pie, particularly when they're a good ally like Canada? This is nothing new.

Actually this IS new. The Canadian dollar hasn't been this high in over 11 years. I don't remember ever seeing the US in such dire straights economically.

We are in dire straights? That is funny.

Compared to 5 years ago? Damn straight you're in dire straights. Everything might seem fine now, but you're racking up hella debt, and will continue to do so until the Iraq situation is over.

5 years ago was a pinnacle for the US economy, so that's not a very valid comparison at all.
We were supposedly in dire straights under Reagan too. Forebodings of doom abounded. Then 5 years ago happened (acutally, more than 5 years ago) and changed everything.

Five years ago will happen again in the relatively near future too. We've witnessed the birth of it just recently with Burt Rutan winning the X-Prize. Except when we finally get commercial space travel going the economic boom from that will make the tech boom pale in comparison.

 

[chess9]

The U.S. hasn't had any luck in the past invading Canada so I'm sure we'll avoid it for a few more years, unless someone discovers a major new oil field up there. Then, all bets are off. 🙂

But, yeah, excellent thinking there.

-Robert

 

[desy]

Actually Bush is better for Canada but not for the reasons you guys are stating.
Kerry and the Liberals are much more protectionist than Bush, IE a lot of those calls centers are coming to Canada , we are net winners on this, its cheaper and we speak English ehh?
Bush may not get on with the current gov't, but govts come and go, we made 2 Billion $ in arms sales to the US in the 60's 'really big $$ back then ' virtually every piece of equipment they used had Canada stamped somewhere on it.
If anything we were quite the whores, selling arms in a war we were 'morally' unwilling to jump in on. Although Canadian soldiers died in Vietnam they were volunteers into American divisions.
Canadians may like Kerry better but he's gonna be a bigger problem for us. .