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Uh....you don't have to do any mods to the Antec to have supreme cooling. Uh....go ahead and cut into your $100+ LL case if you'd like to and add a slot blower too. Uh...I don't think the LL is a step up in cooling perfromance, quite the opposite....

We're talking about a $45 Antec case vs. $$$$ Lian-Li. It's laughable that you need to start hacking away at it or add slot blowers to make it cool well. Come on, really........

m 🙂
 
Uh...You might want to add the front 120m/m fan to the Antec...They are good but I dont think "supreme" comes without the second fan...And why not spend a couple of hours modding your case to lower noise and increase cooling performance ???

That is a no-brainer in my book.

And this 110.00 dollar Lian-Li kicks the 3000 in the teeth when it comes to cooling performance.

I am as big a "Antec fan boy" as you will find...Love their products and have nothing but good to say about them except the flimsy doors and the Sonata.

One thing for sure and I speak from experience with both cases...The Antec SLK3000B is an awesome case...One of, if not the best "bang for the buck" cases avialable...Excellent cooling performance...But no match for the Lian-Li PC-7B...Not even close.

And that is compared to a SLK3000 with the grills cut out and both 120's installed against a the Lian-Li right out of the box...No blow hole fan installed.

I love the SLK3000B and recommend it to anybody that will listen to me...But if they want to pump up the jam...Lian-Li PC-7B...Oh Yeah !!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: charlietee
Uh...You might want to add the front 120m/m fan to the Antec...They are good but I dont think "supreme" comes without the second fan...And why not spend a couple of hours modding your case to lower noise and increase cooling performance ???

That is a no-brainer in my book.

And this 110.00 dollar Lian-Li kicks the 3000 in the teeth when it comes to cooling performance.

I am as big a "Antec fan boy" as you will find...Love their products and have nothing good to say about them except the flimsy doors and the Sonata.

One thing for sure and I speak from experience with both cases...The Antec SLK3000B is an awesome case...One of, if not the best "bang for the buck" cases avialable...Excellent cooling performance...But no match for the Lian-Li PC-7B...Not even close.
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my point exactly - I've never seen a case that couldn't stand for a few easy to do cooling improvements🙂

Oh, and for the record, I had no problem cutting into my pc-v2000 last june when I bought it - all it took was a steady hand with the dremel, and I chopped out the back fan grills to have less restrictive airflow (simple mod, case is still aesthetically pleasing, win/win situation)
 
Originally posted by: charlietee
More pics ??? Sure not a problem...If my writing skills were not so pitiful I would post a thread showing step by step how to go about cutting grills out and mounting 92m/m fans in the PlusView style cases...Cheiftech, Antec, Thermaltake...Bunch of cases out there that would benifit from these easy case mods.

I have literally hundreds of pics with the intention of a noob guide to cheap case mod's with an absolute minimum of tools.

Have to go borrow some memory from a buddy so I can get them off the hard drive in that systm...Sold the last of my DDR to JPSJPS.

Will be selling the case with a 350watt Fortron power supply...Should be in the classifieds in a couple of days.

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nice pics, will be trying this in the next couple of days...
do you guys think the XP-120 would fit in an antec case like the SLK2650-BQE?
or would I have to go with a mid tower case like the SLK3000B?

and
whats the diff. between the SLK3700-BQE and the SLK3000B?
just that the slk3000b has the side intake port ?
 
The BQE comes with a 350watt SmartPower power supply.

Does not have the side vent or the duct to the CPU.

Nice case for simple build's that do not require a beast power supply...Everything else is pretty much the same.

"Oh, and for the record, I had no problem cutting into my pc-v2000 last june when I bought it - all it took was a steady hand with the dremel, and I chopped out the back fan grills to have less restrictive airflow (simple mod, case is still aesthetically pleasing, win/win situation)"

LOL...I cant wait to start choppin, hackin, grindin, cuttin, on my cases...Puts a smile on this ole boys face from Texas...Thats for sure !!!!

 
the height of the xp-120 is 63mm and a panaflow fan is 38mm height (their recommended fan) = 102mm
the width on the antec SLK3000B is 8.25" which is 209mm

so thats a 90mm diff, it should fit right ?
I want to get the SLK3000B or super lan boy or I might wait for their new cases
 
Originally posted by: charlietee
Uh...You might want to add the front 120m/m fan to the Antec...They are good but I dont think "supreme" comes without the second fan...And why not spend a couple of hours modding your case to lower noise and increase cooling performance ???

That is a no-brainer in my book.

And this 110.00 dollar Lian-Li kicks the 3000 in the teeth when it comes to cooling performance.

I am as big a "Antec fan boy" as you will find...Love their products and have nothing good to say about them except the flimsy doors and the Sonata.

One thing for sure and I speak from experience with both cases...The Antec SLK3000B is an awesome case...One of, if not the best "bang for the buck" cases avialable...Excellent cooling performance...But no match for the Lian-Li PC-7B...Not even close.

And that is compared to a SLK3000 with the grills cut out and both 120's installed against a the Lian-Li right out of the box...No blow hole fan installed.

I love the SLK3000B and recommend it to anybody that will listen to me...But if they want to pump up the jam...Lian-Li PC-7B...Oh Yeah !!!!!!!
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Uh....my SLB includes two 120mm fans stock....it doesn't need any modding at all (the 3000, yes a fan will help but it will cool well without it). I paid all of $40 for the SLB and it is cooling "supreme". Point is, you shouldn't have to cut into a LL case for the amount they charge, simply absurd, build it right the first time.....

m 🙂

 
Really the problem will come from the heatsink hitting the support bars or power supply...The width of the case is way more than enough.

If you look at this picture your problem will come from hitting the bottom of the power supply or the suppot rails...So it is how much the sink hangs over the edge of the motherboard.

On a side note your were asking about the 2650 BQE...Not a good candidate for a system using your componets because of the whimpy 300watt SmartPower power supply.

Seems I read a review that gives some information about how much the 120 hangs over a motherboard...I'll be back with the link if I can find it.
 
"Uh....my SLB includes two 120mm fans stock....it doesn't need any modding at all (the 3000, yes a fan will help but it will cool well without it). I paid all of $40 for the SLB and it is cooling "supreme". Point is, you shouldn't have to cut into a LL case for the amount they charge, simply absurd, build it right the first time....."

LOL..Just out of curiousity Mucker have you bothered to look at the Lian-Li that I linked to???

I do not have experience with the "Super Lan Boys" or I am sure I would be able to give you the facts about which one cools better...But it would seem to me that the SLK3000B would cool better than the Super Lan Boy...Side vent and the cpu duct...Uh

And facts are facts...A modded SLK3000B is no match for the Lian-Li right out of the box with no blow hole fan.

I just dont understand every Lian-Li post that I have seen you post in you go to trashing them like they are some kind of junk.

Sure has me wondering what this Craptasic SLB is all about...Could you post some pictures and system specs...I tried the link but it is not working...Just keeps me wondering why you think your SLB is so superior to anything Lian-Li makes.

Not trying to start a flame war just wondering where you are coming from.

 
Originally posted by: charlietee
And facts are facts...A modded SLK3000B is no match for the Lian-Li right out of the box with no blow hole fan.
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you saying the lian li is better than the slk3000B or the other way around?

it seems like your saying a modded SLK3000B will not cool as good as a lian li right out of the box...

Originally posted by: charlietee
On a side note your were asking about the 2650 BQE...Not a good candidate for a system using your componets because of the whimpy 300watt SmartPower power supply.
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I have an antec 400SL 400watt, but I am going to buy a newer ps with a 24 pin connector and pciE connector, looking for recommendations on that also but I started a new thread for that.

 
THere is also the steel v. aluminum factor. From my expereince in owning both antec and lianli, steel is way better in cutting down the noise..
 
Originally posted by: charlietee
"Uh....my SLB includes two 120mm fans stock....it doesn't need any modding at all (the 3000, yes a fan will help but it will cool well without it). I paid all of $40 for the SLB and it is cooling "supreme". Point is, you shouldn't have to cut into a LL case for the amount they charge, simply absurd, build it right the first time....."

LOL..Just out of curiousity Mucker have you bothered to look at the Lian-Li that I linked to???
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Sure did, it looks like Lian-Li finally went to a 120mm fan in the rear with an open grill...I had a good laugh, really smells of a SLB, 3700, 3000, Sonata ripoff to me....

Originally posted by: charlieteeI do not have experience with the "Super Lan Boys" or I am sure I would be able to give you the facts about which one cools better...But it would seem to me that the SLK3000B would cool better than the Super Lan Boy...Side vent and the cpu duct...Uh
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Uh..."seems"? I'd like to see some facts there, you know testing. Maybe it does, I personally don't care if the 3000 cools better than the SLB, my cooling is quite adequate and doesn't need improved. The point is not the cooling performance between a $40 SLB and a $45 SLK-3000, it is about why the low $ Antecs in a stock config outcool the $$$$ Lian-Lis.

Originally posted by: charlieteeAnd facts are facts...A modded SLK3000B is no match for the Lian-Li right out of the box with no blow hole fan.
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Uh...I'll have to see some hard proof before I believe that one.

Originally posted by: charlieteeI just dont understand every Lian-Li post that I have seen you post in you go to trashing them like they are some kind of junk.
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Well, as you say, facts are facts. What I see in most LL cases is flawed enginnering. Most all of their cases except the one you linked to (the Antec ripoff) have insanely restrictive grills (did engineers actually design these...hmmmm), misplaced cooling fan location (heat does rise as far as I know), unmoveable bottom mount I/O placemment, and some don't have reset buttons. And you get all that for $$$$. Not too impressive to me. When they get their act together I may buy one someday, but I see many better alternatives for the money.

Originally posted by: charlieteeSure has me wondering what this Craptasic SLB is all about...Could you post some pictures and system specs...I tried the link but it is not working...Just keeps me wondering why you think your SLB is so superior to anything Lian-Li makes.
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Don't worry, you're not missing anything, it's a $40 stock aluminum/plastic piece of crap. BUT, it is engineered very well and with top notch stock cooling.

Originally posted by: charlieteeNot trying to start a flame war just wondering where you are coming from.
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Nor am I, it just about gags me when I see Lian-Li this, Lian-Li that. As you say, facts are facts. And the fact is for the prices that LL gouges their customers for, alot is left to be desired.......

m 🙂

 
"you saying the lian li is better than the slk3000B or the other way around?

it seems like your saying a modded SLK3000B will not cool as good as a lian li right out of the box... "

I am saying the Lian-Li right out of the box without the blow hole fan installed cooled the system that I took out of my modded SLK3000B better.

Even took the Enermax adjustable fans out of the SLK3000B and installed them in the Lian-Li and was able to get better temperatures at a much lower noise level.

This is my experience...Not my opinion.
 
Originally posted by: charlietee
"you saying the lian li is better than the slk3000B or the other way around?

it seems like your saying a modded SLK3000B will not cool as good as a lian li right out of the box... "

I am saying the Lian-Li right out of the box without the blow hole fan installed cooled the system that I took out of my modded SLK3000B better.

Even took the Enermax adjustable fans out of the SLK3000B and installed them in the Lian-Li and was able to get better temperatures at a much lower noise level.

This is my experience...Not my opinion.
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cool, got it
 
Well I cannot seem to find the review on the XP120.

If you look here you can see that the XP120 hangs over the motherboard.

I have only built 3 775 systems and really do not know if your setup will work.

Let me do some more googling and I will post back...Sent Thermalright a email and they have not responded as of yet.
 
I just got my slk3000b and damn is it ever sweet, with my old old old case(inwin q500) i was getting 37c/37c cpu/mobo temps, and now im getting a solid 29c/29c with both 120mm fans at 7v.

Here are some pics of it pic1 pic2 pic3.
It took me a while hiding all the cables, theres barely any space between the right panel and the mobo tray. If i undo the screws the panel will just spring out 🙂
I love the removable hdd and fdd trays, makes swapping everything that much easier.
 
Originally posted by: shabby
I just got my slk3000b and damn is it ever sweet, with my old old old case(inwin q500) i was getting 37c/37c cpu/mobo temps, and now im getting a solid 29c/29c with both 120mm fans at 7v.

Here are some pics of it pic1 pic2 pic3.
It took me a while hiding all the cables, theres barely any space between the right panel and the mobo tray. If i undo the screws the panel will just spring out 🙂
I love the removable hdd and fdd trays, makes swapping everything that much easier.
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Can you post a pic of what it looks like behind your mobo tray so we can see your cable hiding skills?
 
Kremerica: its a gf6 6800 with a nv5 cooler.

Tiamat: you really dont wanna see that, its a mess back there 🙂 There's very little space between the mobo tray and the panel so all the cables are kinda squished in there. I guess thats the only bad thing about the slk3000b.
 
Originally posted by: Nessism
Originally posted by: Mucker
What is so unbelievable about it? The Antec thermal engineering for the 3000 absolutely stomps the PC-50. That 3000 you have will even outcool their $200+ models. Lian-Li should take a few pointers from Antec, not only in how to cool their enclosures, but to narrow the price/performance ratio. There are simply too many flaws with there current cases to make them attractive to me....

m 🙂
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One small correction, Antec purchases the basic chassis from HEC/Compucase so it's them you should thank for the nice design.
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Did they design it or just MAKE it? 😀

 
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