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uclaLabrat

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It wouldn't surprise me. The pharmaceutical companies are only researching and developing drugs that you must take for the rest of your life.

Name one new drug (developed in the last 20 years) that you take for a week, it cures the ailment, and you never need to take it again. There aren't any, because a weeks worth of pills doesn't generate the revenue that a pill a day for the rest of your life does.

The medical industry in this country is not about curing a single person, but profits, obscene profits.

Annnnnnnnd here it is. My favorite pile of horseshit on the internet. The truth is, the pharmaceutical industry is about both, curing people and profits. Gilead just cured hep C, and people are bitching because they make too much money! I thought there wasn't any money in cures, only treatment?
 
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It wouldn't surprise me. The pharmaceutical companies are only researching and developing drugs that you must take for the rest of your life.

Name one new drug (developed in the last 20 years) that you take for a week, it cures the ailment, and you never need to take it again. There aren't any, because a weeks worth of pills doesn't generate the revenue that a pill a day for the rest of your life does.

The medical industry in this country is not about curing a single person, but profits, obscene profits.
It's called a vaccination. The idea is to prevent disease because for many, once you have a disease there is often no miracle cure possible. Get vaccinated once, you don't get the disease. Btw, Big Pharma produces those drugs.

As far as cancer is concerned, as already mentioned, there is no single cure because there is no single cause. If there were and a single cure for cancer was developed the monetary results from that discovery would dwarf any and all other drugs. Big Pharms would love to discover such a miracle cure. They would make a mint.

But people are so small minded about big corporations and "profits" that they often can't manage to rationally think for themselves when their rampant paranoia takes over their minds.
 

CZroe

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...Name one new drug (developed in the last 20 years) that you take for a week, it cures the ailment, and you never need to take it again. There aren't any, because a weeks worth of pills doesn't generate the revenue that a pill a day for the rest of your life does...

It's hard for most people to name one drug that has ever cured something that simply and effectively other than antibiotics eliminating bacterial infections or anti-fungal compounds eliminating fungal infections, and such, which are pretty general.

Fact: You have child-like unrealistic expectations. Now, excuse me while I go invent the cure for a compound fractured femur.
 
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Jaepheth

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The amoral status of the corporation is immaterial.

Most any doctor or scientist who found or knew of a cure for cancer would whistle-blow the shit out of a company that was sitting on it, and the discoverer(s) would definitely stop at nothing to get their due credit for such a landmark discovery.

This conspiracy theory has about as much credibility as the one stating the moon landing was a hoax.
 

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Annnnnnnnd here it is. My favorite pile of horseshit on the internet. The truth is, the pharmaceutical industry is about both, curing people and profits. Gilead just cured hep C, and people are bitching because they make too much money! I thought there wasn't any money in cures, only treatment?

I think a lot of that was because of the scaling. The full treatment is over six figures in the US. Yet actually affordable in other countries.
 

CPA

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It wouldn't surprise me. The pharmaceutical companies are only researching and developing drugs that you must take for the rest of your life.

Name one new drug (developed in the last 20 years) that you take for a week, it cures the ailment, and you never need to take it again. There aren't any, because a weeks worth of pills doesn't generate the revenue that a pill a day for the rest of your life does.

The medical industry in this country is not about curing a single person, but profits, obscene profits.

It takes slightly longer than a week (hell, even Hep B vaccinations take longer than a week), but Gardasil was introduced in 2005 (after countless years of testing). You get THREE injections, that's it. It prevents HPV, which can lead to cervical cancer. So, yeah, short-term drugs are still being made, but don't let that stop you from your foaming at the mouth.
 

CPA

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The amoral status of the corporation is immaterial.

Most any doctor or scientist who found or knew of a cure for cancer would whistle-blow the shit out of a company that was sitting on it, and the discoverer(s) would definitely stop at nothing to get their due credit for such a landmark discovery.

This conspiracy theory has about as much credibility as the one stating the moon landing was a hoax.

Reminds me of the conspiracy theories in the late 90's on how the automakers were in cahoots with oil companies and purposely made their cars low fuel efficiency so we had to buy more gas from the oil companies. Nevermind, that car companies had ZERO gain out of this "partnership" with the oil companies.
 

CZroe

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Reminds me of the conspiracy theories in the late 90's on how the automakers were in cahoots with oil companies and purposely made their cars low fuel efficiency so we had to buy more gas from the oil companies. Nevermind, that car companies had ZERO gain out of this "partnership" with the oil companies.
That's because they are shill companies OWNED by Big Oil. /tinfoil
 

smackababy

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14 year old doesn't even have the conviction to write that shit on her face... Yeah, what a little pussy. Eddie Vedder did that shit in 1992...

When I was 14 the only activism I was trying to do involved my penis being active in a girl, which always wound up in my hand...
 

HumblePie

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The reason the 14 year old believes this is because Big Pharma HAS done something similar. Ulcers anyone?

http://www.yourhealthbase.com/ulcer_drugs.htm

For decades they knew there was a cause and a cure, but fought it tooth and nail because it was more profitable to treat the symptoms and not the cause with a cheap anti-biotic.
 

smackababy

Lifer
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The reason the 14 year old believes this is because Big Pharma HAS done something similar. Ulcers anyone?

http://www.yourhealthbase.com/ulcer_drugs.htm

For decades they knew there was a cause and a cure, but fought it tooth and nail because it was more profitable to treat the symptoms and not the cause with a cheap anti-biotic.

No, the reason the 14 year old believes this is because she doesn't understand what cancer is. Nor does she understand that there is cure all, nor will there be.
 

zinfamous

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I think a lot of that was because of the scaling. The full treatment is over six figures in the US. Yet actually affordable in other countries.

It is absurd on appearance, but you have to accept that bringing a single drug to that stage of FDA approval costs billions. And that is after nearly 3% (probably less) drugs that go through several rounds of testing are actually approved.

So, say that for every billion dollars spent on getting a single drug approved by the FDA, some 7 to 10 billion dollars are lost in other failed drugs. It isn't a joke.

I'm not defending the assholes in the drug industry, but there are legitimate costs to developing these wonderful little pills. While I think Gillead did overstep in their US pricing, I think there is a little "hint" of nobility in their making this affordable in impoverished countries that are far more devastated by this disease
(well...not really. This actually amounts to free, general population testing of the drug without the inconvenience of FDA regulation and that pesky US news media reporting the unexpected deaths that will more than likely occur amongst these populations...so, uh. carry on)
 

smackababy

Lifer
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It is absurd on appearance, but you have to accept that bringing a single drug to that stage of FDA approval costs billions. And that is after nearly 3% (probably less) drugs that go through several rounds of testing are actually approved.

So, say that for every billion dollars spent on getting a single drug approved by the FDA, some 7 to 10 billion dollars are lost in other failed drugs. It isn't a joke.

I'm not defending the assholes in the drug industry, but there are legitimate costs to developing these wonderful little pills. While I think Gillead did overstep in their US pricing, I think there is a little "hint" of nobility in their making this affordable in impoverished countries that are far more devastated by this disease
(well...not really. This actually amounts to free, general population testing of the drug without the inconvenience of FDA regulation and that pesky US news media reporting the unexpected deaths that will more than likely occur amongst these populations...so, uh. carry on)
Couple the costs with the fact that Hep C isn't exactly an epidemic killing millions of people in the US, and they can afford (pardon the pun) to price this drug pretty high. The spread of the disease is almost entirely limited to intravenous drug users sharing needles, someone the public doesn't particularly care about. Hep C also isn't a hugely crippling disease like AIDs. People live fairly long, otherwise healthy lives and die of some liver complication with Hep C. They don't deteriorate in front of their loved ones. My father has had Hep C since he was 17 (in fact, at the time, there wasn't Hep A, B, and C, just Hep viral and bacterial; he didn't find out it was Hep C until many years later), and has perfectly normal liver functions, which is pretty lucky considering he is a heavy drinker. He also battled lung cancer and won, for now, at least.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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The reason the 14 year old believes this is because Big Pharma HAS done something similar. Ulcers anyone?

http://www.yourhealthbase.com/ulcer_drugs.htm

For decades they knew there was a cause and a cure, but fought it tooth and nail because it was more profitable to treat the symptoms and not the cause with a cheap anti-biotic.
That antibacterial cocktail targeting bacteria in the digestive tract will wipe out all the symbiotic bacteria and could cause much worse distress for the rest of the patient's life. It's obvious that the real problem is not the bacteria, as it is in many more people than the ulcers it causes.

A fecal matter transplant for the IBS caused by taking such drastic measures would likely reintroduce it, and who knows what kind of superbugs we'd make if we simply started treating all heartburn and ulcer cases with antibiotics like that. I think that part of the reason it was ignored is because they recommended antibiotics for a common ailment with alternative treatments right around the time when everyone started warning against unnecessary antibiotics.
 

Exophase

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Be aware, they know how to make teleporters. Conventional transportation is an 18 gazillion dollar industry. You don't really think they want to stop that cash flow, do you? WAKE UP (sheeple)
 

smackababy

Lifer
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I wonder what she thinks about how the Twin Towers fell on 9/11.

9/11 was an inside job by the Contractors Union. Construction is a 50 billion dollar a year industry. If building aren't regularly demolished (via legal, safe means or otherwise), we would run out of places to build! Wake up!