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Illinois Politicians Propose Ban on Foie Gras 11-10-05

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Not surprised we are now being told what we can and cannot eat.

It's cruel to kill any animal for food, so do we stop eating???

This is because we no longer believe in science and darwinism.

God must be saying we must stop eating.

11-10-2005 Chicago Politicians Propose Ban On Foie Gras

CHICAGO - In the city once known as the world's slaughterhouse, restaurants, politicians and animal rights activists are worked up over a goose liver delicacy.

A proposed ban on foie gras has divided Chicago's fine restaurants and stirred a two-pronged debate: whether it is humane to force-feed geese and ducks to plump up their livers, and whether politicians should be telling diners what they can and cannot eat.

"Our laws are reflection of our culture, and in our culture it's not acceptable to torture small animals," said Alderman Joseph Moore, whose proposed ordinance would affect at least 19 restaurants in Chicago, by one count.

"I never thought this would happen in my lifetime. It feels so politically driven," said Rick Tramonto, the chef and owner of the four-star restaurant Tru. "We're the meatpacking part of the country. We're the Midwest. We're farming states. It's strange to me that this is happening."

A City Council committee approved the ordinance last month, and the full council could vote this month. But Mayor Richard M. Daley has made it clear he does not like the idea of banning certain foods, grumbling, "Pretty soon, you can't drink."

Rich and buttery, foie gras, pronounced fwah-GRAH and French for "fat liver," often is served sliced and pan-seared, frequently with fruit or atop greens or a cut of steak or veal.

To fatten the liver of waterfowl, a tube is inserted into their throats twice a day and partially cooked corn is pumped down the esophagus. Only three foie gras farms ? two in New York and one in California ? operate in the United States.

California is the only state to vote to ban the force-feeding of birds to produce the gourmet liver product, passing a measure that would end the practice by 2012. Israel, the world's fourth-largest producer of foie gras, also banned production of the delicacy on the grounds of cruelty.

France has stood firm. About 80 percent of the world's foie gras comes from France. French lawmakers last month unanimously passed an amendment pronouncing foie gras part of France's cultural heritage.

 
To fatten the liver of waterfowl, a tube is inserted into their throats twice a day
and partially cooked corn is pumped down the esophagus


Gee - why didn't Frist take that treatment to Terri Schiavo.
 
Hey I just lost my right to have a cig in a bowling alley, you're not going to get any sympathy from me.
 
Too bad the guy proposing it is a Democrat.

Looks like your heroes are going further to the left with each passing day, Dave.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad the guy proposing it is a Democrat.

Looks like your heroes are going further to the left with each passing day, Dave.

Not my Heroes. I'll quip at any Authoratarian A-hole Politician regardless of party.

You should know that by now.

The learning curve in here is reeeeeaaaaal slow.
 
Originally posted by: Strk
Good, it's a horrible practice.

It's horrible to have to kill any animal, what are you going to do, not eat meat???

I'm sure that will be coming, that Politicians will ban humans from eating meat.
 
I'm all for it. I thought you guys hated the French anyway?

Raising an animal for food is one thing, torturing it is another.

I suspect this affects 0.001% of the population, so we might as well make a moral statement with it.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Strk
Good, it's a horrible practice.

It's horrible to have to kill any animal, what are you going to do, not eat meat???

I'm sure that will be coming, that Politicians will ban humans from eating meat.

There's a big difference betwen this and what is normally done to animals raised for meat.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad the guy proposing it is a Democrat.

Looks like your heroes are going further to the left with each passing day, Dave.

Not my Heroes. I'll quip at any Authoratarian A-hole Politician regardless of party.

You should know that by now.

The learning curve in here is reeeeeaaaaal slow.

But you don't make blanket generalizations regarding the party or even mention the party at all...interesting.

This is your base for your Presidential election. Proud?

If this is how they make meat taste good people won't mind.
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
To fatten the liver of waterfowl, a tube is inserted into their throats twice a day
and partially cooked corn is pumped down the esophagus


Gee - why didn't Frist take that treatment to Terri Schiavo.

That's pretty disgusting... I can see why it should be banned.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Strk
Good, it's a horrible practice.

It's horrible to have to kill any animal, what are you going to do, not eat meat???

I'm sure that will be coming, that Politicians will ban humans from eating meat.

There's a difference between killing an animal humanely for food and stuffing tubes down its throat every day for its entire life. The latter is the problem.
 
I am having dinner that I just cooked. All organic vegetables and olive oil. Chopped garlic, yellow and green zucchini, Chinese broccoli, French carrots, cherry tomatoes, fava beans, chanterelle mushrooms, red bell pepper, and prehistoric sea salt, all stir fried. Tastes just terrific.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I am having dinner that I just cooked. All organic vegetables and olive oil. Chopped garlic, yellow and green zucchini, Chinese broccoli, French carrots, cherry tomatoes, fava beans, chanterelle mushrooms, red bell pepper, and prehistoric sea salt, all stir fried. Tastes just terrific.

I just finished a large Sirloin steak. Actually it was more like a roast if you looked at it. Nothing like a big thick Sirloin steak grilled on the BBQ rare-medrare. Bloody but not so bloody that it still moos. Had a side of pork poppers(my own invention as far as I know) - think breaded cheese curds, but with pork and cheese inside.

I love eating animals. They taste terrific.

I'm not a big fan of duck, but it's good to eat a couple times a year.
 
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Strk
Good, it's a horrible practice.

It's horrible to have to kill any animal, what are you going to do, not eat meat???

I'm sure that will be coming, that Politicians will ban humans from eating meat.

There's a difference between killing an animal humanely for food and stuffing tubes down its throat every day for its entire life. The latter is the problem.

And if you knew anything of the conditions on the typical chicken farm, you'd probably want to ban that, too. PETA hassled Frank Perdue for years over the conditions at his farms. Basically a large coop with no room to move and the chickens just sit there and eat and defecate until they are killed. Then they are replaced with fresh meet.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad the guy proposing it is a Democrat.

Looks like your heroes are going further to the left with each passing day, Dave.

Not my Heroes. I'll quip at any Authoratarian A-hole Politician regardless of party.

You should know that by now.

The learning curve in here is reeeeeaaaaal slow.

But you don't make blanket generalizations regarding the party or even mention the party at all...interesting.

This is your base for your Presidential election. Proud?

If this is how they make meat taste good people won't mind.

It's one local Political whacko.

You can bet I would be screaming at the entire Democrat base if this was a Senator or a Congressional Rep.

My Base???

I have no confirmation the Dem party would back me, most likely they will be pushing Hillary and I can't blame them.

Most likely I would be more like a Ross Perot, talking strictly about the issues affecting the Country while the other two spout rhetoric and negative attack each other.

Maybe people will finally tire from all that and vote for what's best for the Country.

It's still OK to dream in America, for now.
 
Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Strk
Good, it's a horrible practice.

It's horrible to have to kill any animal, what are you going to do, not eat meat???

I'm sure that will be coming, that Politicians will ban humans from eating meat.

There's a difference between killing an animal humanely for food and stuffing tubes down its throat every day for its entire life. The latter is the problem.

And if you knew anything of the conditions on the typical chicken farm, you'd probably want to ban that, too. PETA hassled Frank Perdue for years over the conditions at his farms. Basically a large coop with no room to move and the chickens just sit there and eat and defecate until they are killed. Then they are replaced with fresh meet.

Yeah, it's pretty disturbing 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I am having dinner that I just cooked. All organic vegetables and olive oil. Chopped garlic, yellow and green zucchini, Chinese broccoli, French carrots, cherry tomatoes, fava beans, chanterelle mushrooms, red bell pepper, and prehistoric sea salt, all stir fried. Tastes just terrific.
If only the poor could afford to eat as well as you do.
 
Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Strk
Good, it's a horrible practice.

It's horrible to have to kill any animal, what are you going to do, not eat meat???

I'm sure that will be coming, that Politicians will ban humans from eating meat.

There's a difference between killing an animal humanely for food and stuffing tubes down its throat every day for its entire life. The latter is the problem.

And if you knew anything of the conditions on the typical chicken farm, you'd probably want to ban that, too. PETA hassled Frank Perdue for years over the conditions at his farms. Basically a large coop with no room to move and the chickens just sit there and eat and defecate until they are killed. Then they are replaced with fresh meet.

Oh, I know, its horrible at the factory farms. If only I were rich enough to vote Republican, then I could afford organic meats.
 
Originally posted by: EatSpam

Oh, I know, its horrible at the factory farms. If only I were rich enough to vote Republican, then I could afford organic meats.

I eat free range meat (beef, chicken, turkey) from Whole Foods and I don't usually vote Republican.

On the other hand, I live in Illinois and I think this law is stupid.
 
I love foie gras. Totally unhealthy for you to eat in any quantity, but good a handful of times per year. Goes great with a good champagne.

The fact of the matter is that if you saw how veal was raised, or walked through a chicken "farm" (more like factory), you would realize that commercial husbandry of meat animals is rather inhumane all around. I suppose free-range chicken, or naturally killed venison/bison/etc. are the exceptions - but they are too inefficient to feed a large population with meat on a consistent basis. Unless we are all prepared to become vegitarians we had better get used to just looking the other way...

Somebody stop this nutjob...

Future Shock
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I am having dinner that I just cooked. All organic vegetables and olive oil. Chopped garlic, yellow and green zucchini, Chinese broccoli, French carrots, cherry tomatoes, fava beans, chanterelle mushrooms, red bell pepper, and prehistoric sea salt, all stir fried. Tastes just terrific.
If only the poor could afford to eat as well as you do.

Republicans in Congress would never stand for subsidized healthy meals. In fact, they are busy cutting current ones. Fortunately, they are working hard to protect poor people's right to access McDonalds.
 
Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: EatSpam

Oh, I know, its horrible at the factory farms. If only I were rich enough to vote Republican, then I could afford organic meats.

I eat free range meat (beef, chicken, turkey) from Whole Foods and I don't usually vote Republican.

On the other hand, I live in Illinois and I think this law is stupid.

I live in Illinois also... Whole Foods, eh? Probably have to be in Chicago for that.
 
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