Illegal immigrants detained, then freed to work

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

I wouldn't call having an administration that feels it can do whatever it wants to "change". It's just the same old shit. with a different shitter.

I'd call your misrepresentations of the Democratic President 'more of the same', not Obama, who is radically different than Bush in countless important ways - though not a few.

Is Obama's administration ignoring our laws that it doesn't like? Huh, sounds JUST LIKE BUSH to me!!

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

I wouldn't call having an administration that feels it can do whatever it wants to "change". It's just the same old shit. with a different shitter.

I'd call your misrepresentations of the Democratic President 'more of the same', not Obama, who is radically different than Bush in countless important ways - though not a few.

Is Obama's administration ignoring our laws that it doesn't like? Huh, sounds JUST LIKE BUSH to me!!

So, if Obama does 10 big things right, and one or two wrong, your counting of that is "0 things right, everything wrong."

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

You know, I was about to write in the subtitle "Hey Harvey, so who is the Traitor In Chief now? but didn't want to get into trouble for calling out

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

I wouldn't call having an administration that feels it can do whatever it wants to "change". It's just the same old shit. with a different shitter.

I'd call your misrepresentations of the Democratic President 'more of the same', not Obama, who is radically different than Bush in countless important ways - though not a few.

Is Obama's administration ignoring our laws that it doesn't like? Huh, sounds JUST LIKE BUSH to me!!

So, if Obama does 10 big things right, and one or two wrong, your counting of that is "0 things right, everything wrong."

What Obama has or hasn't done right is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many things he did right when he is knowingly breaking our law.

The fact remains his administration is ignoring the law of the land.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Svnla
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/...ration.raid/index.html

So if you are here illegally, got busted but didn't get deported and then got a license to legally work here?

So much for changes.

Letting illegals roam free is on the party agenda. He is basically the head of his party, why wouldn't he do this?

 

[bbdub333]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

Maybe he shouldn't have made that slogan the centerpiece of his entire campaign. Or at least he could have explained what "change" was going to be, instead of using it as a vague and ambiguous feel-good slogan with no definitive, substantive meaning behind it to speak of. Unfortuantely, that wasn't, and hasn't been, the case.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

I wouldn't call having an administration that feels it can do whatever it wants to "change". It's just the same old shit. with a different shitter.

I'd call your misrepresentations of the Democratic President 'more of the same', not Obama, who is radically different than Bush in countless important ways - though not a few.

Is Obama's administration ignoring our laws that it doesn't like? Huh, sounds JUST LIKE BUSH to me!!

So, if Obama does 10 big things right, and one or two wrong, your counting of that is "0 things right, everything wrong."

What Obama has or hasn't done right is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many things he did right when he is knowingly breaking our law.

The fact remains his administration is ignoring the law of the land.

Yes in limited areas, and that does not make him the same as Bush overall. And your post was hyperbole, and I don't care to have to repeat the point over and over.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Svnla
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/...ration.raid/index.html

So if you are here illegally, got busted but didn't get deported and then got a license to legally work here?

So much for changes.

Letting illegals roam free is on the party agenda. He is basically the head of his party, why wouldn't he do this?

Because we are (supposedly) a nation of laws.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: bbdub333

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

Maybe he shouldn't have made that slogan the centerpiece of his entire campaign. Or at least he could have explained what "change" was going to be, instead of using it as a vague and ambiguous feel-good slogan with no definitive, substantive meaning behind it to speak of. Unfortuantely, that wasn't, and hasn't been, the case.

It was effective for the campaign, but I criticized it similar to how you do during the campaign. Nothing you said justified the mandatory sarcastic reference to it every post.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

I wouldn't call having an administration that feels it can do whatever it wants to "change". It's just the same old shit. with a different shitter.

I'd call your misrepresentations of the Democratic President 'more of the same', not Obama, who is radically different than Bush in countless important ways - though not a few.

Is Obama's administration ignoring our laws that it doesn't like? Huh, sounds JUST LIKE BUSH to me!!

So, if Obama does 10 big things right, and one or two wrong, your counting of that is "0 things right, everything wrong."

What Obama has or hasn't done right is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many things he did right when he is knowingly breaking our law.

The fact remains his administration is ignoring the law of the land.

Yes in limited areas, and that does not make him the same as Bush overall. And your post was hyperbole, and I don't care to have to repeat the point over and over.

You have started down your slippery slope. Just because the majority elects someone, that doesn't clear the way for them to do whatever they like. We have 3 branches of government for a good reason.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

Yeah, change to enforcing the laws. Wouldn't that be a fucking novelty.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

I guess I am old school because I am a strong believer in the laws and rules of the land but what do I know..it is not important anymore right?

I wonder how that guy and a bunch of others got off free ..maybe because ""This is a really heavy Obama-supporting county," .. and now it is pay back time??

Edit: Before some of you scream RACCCCCCCCCCIIIIST"...I am a FIRST generation of LEGAL immigrant...I wasn't born here but moved here LEGALLY years ago.

I never said following the law wasn't important, I just don't see how this really impacts Obama's message of 'change'. (although I personally think our immigration laws should be thrown in the trash and redone)

I have no idea why your immigration status would have the slightest meaning as to if you are racist or not.

I have no idea what all this dribble about being FIRST generation anything has to do with this thread????

I totally agree with Eskimo on this!

I also agree with the person who said -- Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".


Opps that was also Eskimo!!!

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

I guess I am old school because I am a strong believer in the laws and rules of the land but what do I know..it is not important anymore right?

I wonder how that guy and a bunch of others got off free ..maybe because ""This is a really heavy Obama-supporting county," .. and now it is pay back time??

Edit: Before some of you scream RACCCCCCCCCCIIIIST"...I am a FIRST generation of LEGAL immigrant...I wasn't born here but moved here LEGALLY years ago.

I never said following the law wasn't important, I just don't see how this really impacts Obama's message of 'change'. (although I personally think our immigration laws should be thrown in the trash and redone)

I have no idea why your immigration status would have the slightest meaning as to if you are racist or not.

I have no idea what all this dribble about being FIRST generation anything has to do with this thread????

I totally agree with Eskimo on this!

I also agree with the person who said -- Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".


Opps that was also Eskimo!!!

So says the Obama talking head.....

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: bbdub333

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

Maybe he shouldn't have made that slogan the centerpiece of his entire campaign. Or at least he could have explained what "change" was going to be, instead of using it as a vague and ambiguous feel-good slogan with no definitive, substantive meaning behind it to speak of. Unfortuantely, that wasn't, and hasn't been, the case.

Another ignorant person who expects things to change overnight!!
Whats interesting is most these sheep who keep bringing up the change slogan don`t realize that change is happenning, just NOT the change they want to happen.

Also thge out come of this one particular article kept a family from being split, possibly forever, Only the father was not a citizen, his wife and children were......

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: Balt
Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

Hummm..the new changes should be deport everyone in the family and they want to go back? Then go to the long line as millions of others that want to get in the US legally do.

Did you read the article???
Only the Father was not a citizen. His wife and children were citizens!!

 

[sciwizam]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: Balt
Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

Hummm..the new changes should be deport everyone in the family and they want to go back? Then go to the long line as millions of others that want to get in the US legally do.

Did you read the article???
Only the Father was not a citizen. His wife and children were citizens!!

We don't know the status of the wife, the article doesn't mention it. The children, of course, are US citizens, they were born here.

As he was being taken to an immigration detention center, Arreola said he thought of his wife and the five children they have had while living here and who are U.S. citizens by birth. He expected to be deported back to Mexico, Arreola said, and he was doubtful about when he would see his family again.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: Balt
Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

Hummm..the new changes should be deport everyone in the family and they want to go back? Then go to the long line as millions of others that want to get in the US legally do.

Did you read the article???
Only the Father was not a citizen. His wife and children were citizens!!

Read that again. He and his wife have been here 11 years and have 5 kids (I beleive they're called "anchor babies) who are "legal". He also appears to still be speaking spanish even though he's been here
11 years?

How the hell can they afford 5 kids?

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: Balt
Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

Hummm..the new changes should be deport everyone in the family and they want to go back? Then go to the long line as millions of others that want to get in the US legally do.

Did you read the article???
Only the Father was not a citizen. His wife and children were citizens!!

Did you read my replies? What part of "new changes" don't you understand? Deport everyone so no more "anchor babies" loopholes. We should change the law to babies born in the US by illegal parent(s) are still illegal = no more sneaking in and drop a few babies <note the plural> so you can cut in line and become legal. What the hell happens to our nation laws and regulations?

Btw, his "anchor babies" are citizen, his wife may not be.

Oh on your other reply about my immigrant status. Did you even bother to see my explanation posted about 30 minutes before your post? Look like you need to take your own advise and make some real changes.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: Balt
Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

Hummm..the new changes should be deport everyone in the family and they want to go back? Then go to the long line as millions of others that want to get in the US legally do.

Did you read the article???
Only the Father was not a citizen. His wife and children were citizens!!

Did you read my replies? What part of "new changes" don't you understand? Deport everyone so no more "anchor babies" loopholes. We should change the law to babies born in the US by illegal parent(s) are still illegal = no more sneaking in and drop a few babies <note the plural> so you can cut in line and become legal. What the hell happens to our nation laws and regulations?

Btw, his "anchor babies" are citizen, his wife may not be.<-- so how screwed up is your thinking?? "anchor" babes??? You an idiot or something? Until the laws are changed his baby`s are American citizens!! Get over it and deal with it!!
Oh on your other reply about my immigrant status. Did you even bother to see my explanation posted about 30 minutes before your post? Look like you need to take your own advise and make some real changes.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: Balt
Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

Hummm..the new changes should be deport everyone in the family and they want to go back? Then go to the long line as millions of others that want to get in the US legally do.

Did you read the article???
Only the Father was not a citizen. His wife and children were citizens!!

Did you read my replies? What part of "new changes" don't you understand? Deport everyone so no more "anchor babies" loopholes. We should change the law to babies born in the US by illegal parent(s) are still illegal = no more sneaking in and drop a few babies <note the plural> so you can cut in line and become legal. What the hell happens to our nation laws and regulations?

Btw, his "anchor babies" are citizen, his wife may not be.<-- so how screwed up is your thinking?? "anchor" babes??? You an idiot or something? Until the laws are changed his baby`s are American citizens!! Get over it and deal with it!!
Oh on your other reply about my immigrant status. Did you even bother to see my explanation posted about 30 minutes before your post? Look like you need to take your own advise and make some real changes.

I think those anchor babies should be "grandfathered" out of citizenship when we change the law. If neither of the parents were here legally then the kids shouldn't be here legally either.

 

[night]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

I think those anchor babies should be "grandfathered" out of citizenship when we change the law. If neither of the parents were here legally then the kids shouldn't be here legally either.

:thumbsup:

 

[Sacrilege]

I think it's clear America needs a revised temporary worker program. To at least get all the Mexican and South/Central American immigrants on the books and paying taxes. This is what Bush had proposed, and Obama has a similar idea. It is the only way.

Like it or not, Hispanics are becoming a bigger voting bloc than hate filled right wing white Americans, and politicians will "pander" to this new demographic. And by "pandering" they are also facing the reality of the social and economic situation.