Illegal immigrants detained, then freed to work

[Svnla]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/...ration.raid/index.html

So if you are here illegally, got busted but didn't get deported and then got a license to legally work here?

So much for changes.

 

[fskimospy]

Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

What "changes" did you want?

 

[bbdub333]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

So are you saying that illegal immigration is not an important issue that Obama campaigned heavily on during the election?

It looks like these people got arrested, there was a lot of bad PR for the Obama admin, "something" happened, and now they are all legal residents. While this is only one incident, it certainly does look like caving in to appease a minority constituency.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

I guess I am old school because I am a strong believer in the laws and rules of the land but what do I know..it is not important anymore right?

I wonder how that guy and a bunch of others got off free ..maybe because ""This is a really heavy Obama-supporting county," .. and now it is pay back time??

Edit: Before some of you scream RACCCCCCCCCCIIIIST"...I am a FIRST generation of LEGAL immigrant...I wasn't born here but moved here LEGALLY years ago.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

Asking for our immigration laws to be enforced? We do have literally millions of people standing in line to come to this country legally but apparantly you would rather let these illegals cut to the fron of the line.

I say fuck them, their gangs and there associated crime that comes with them. People who break our laws to get into our country are not the kind of people we want.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: Svnla
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/...ration.raid/index.html

So if you are here illegally, got busted but didn't get deported and then got a license to legally work here?

So much for changes.

Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

 

[sciwizam]

"Under the Obama administration, we didn't expect it to happen that people would be dragged out in handcuffs," said Rosalinda Guillen, a Bellingham immigrant rights advocate.

Many in the area strongly opposed the raid, Guillen said.

"This is a really heavy Obama-supporting county," she said. "So a lot of folks here had been in involved in the election." Immediately after the raid, she said, "the calls, the e-mails started and networks were activated."

I guess the law doesn't apply there? :roll:

During a hearing before the House Committee on Homeland Security the day after the Bellingham raid, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano distanced herself from the action.

Worksite enforcements, she said, should focus "on employers who intentionally and knowingly exploit the illegal labor market." Napolitano promised lawmakers that she would "get to the bottom" of what happened in Bellingham.

Napolitano's comments turned the heat up on the already boiling debate over how immigration policies should be reformed.

"Get to the bottom of what? Law enforcement officers enforcing the law?" asked Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a nonprofit group that advocates more border security and decreasing the number of illegal immigrants entering the country.

:laugh:

 

[sciwizam]

dp

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Balt

Originally posted by: Svnla
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/...ration.raid/index.html

So if you are here illegally, got busted but didn't get deported and then got a license to legally work here?

So much for changes.

Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

How about we follow the law for a change.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

I guess I am old school because I am a strong believer in the laws and rules of the land but what do I know..it is not important anymore right?

I wonder how that guy and a bunch of others got off free ..maybe because ""This is a really heavy Obama-supporting county," .. and now it is pay back time??

Edit: Before some of you scream RACCCCCCCCCCIIIIST"...I am a FIRST generation of LEGAL immigrant...I wasn't born here but moved here LEGALLY years ago.

I never said following the law wasn't important, I just don't see how this really impacts Obama's message of 'change'. (although I personally think our immigration laws should be thrown in the trash and redone)

I have no idea why your immigration status would have the slightest meaning as to if you are racist or not.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

Asking for our immigration laws to be enforced? We do have literally millions of people standing in line to come to this country legally but apparantly you would rather let these illegals cut to the fron of the line.

I say fuck them, their gangs and there associated crime that comes with them. People who break our laws to get into our country are not the kind of people we want.

I think everyone on this board knows how you feel about immigration. I don't see why we need several more pages of foam and flying spittle from you on the issue.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Balt

Originally posted by: Svnla
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/...ration.raid/index.html

So if you are here illegally, got busted but didn't get deported and then got a license to legally work here?

So much for changes.

Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

How about we follow the law for a change.

If you want to argue that, that's fine. I wouldn't disagree. When every thread has some variation of "LOLCHANGE" in it though even when there has been a new policy, it makes people like the OP look like a whining prat rather than someone with a good argument to put forth.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

Asking for our immigration laws to be enforced? We do have literally millions of people standing in line to come to this country legally but apparantly you would rather let these illegals cut to the fron of the line.

I say fuck them, their gangs and there associated crime that comes with them. People who break our laws to get into our country are not the kind of people we want.

I think everyone on this board knows how you feel about immigration. I don't see why we need several more pages of foam and flying spittle from you on the issue.

I'll spittle when and where I feel like it, so fuck off.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yet another person who thinks that when Obama said 'change', he meant "I will change whatever you, Svnla, personally find to be important".

errr i was kinda hoping that he would change the administration and ENFORCE our current laws.

but nooooo now he wants to stop the illegal gun trafficking from the US to Mexico which is totall bullshit. funny how he can stop the illegal shipments of guns going south (if there really is a illegal pipeline of guns in the first place) but will NOT do shit about all the illegals headed north. WTF!!!!!

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Balt

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Balt

Originally posted by: Svnla
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/...ration.raid/index.html

So if you are here illegally, got busted but didn't get deported and then got a license to legally work here?

So much for changes.

Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

How about we follow the law for a change.

If you want to argue that, that's fine. I wouldn't disagree. When every thread has some variation of "LOLCHANGE" in it though even when there has been a new policy, it makes people like the OP look like a whining prat rather than someone with a good argument to put forth.

If you don't like the law then change it, but until you do it's our public officials sworn duty to uphold those laws.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: eskimospy

I think everyone on this board knows how you feel about immigration. I don't see why we need several more pages of foam and flying spittle from you on the issue.

I'll spittle when and where I feel like it, so fuck off.

Oh I know you will, trust me. How long until you declare that 'your opinion of me has declined'?

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: Balt
If you want to argue that, that's fine. I wouldn't disagree. When every thread has some variation of "LOLCHANGE" in it though even when there has been a new policy, it makes people like the OP look like a whining prat rather than someone with a good argument to put forth.

Why a new policy? pay back time for "really heavy Obama-supporting county"??

Whinning? Your opinion.

Good argument? You betcha. Why my family and others have to wait for YEARS to get in and these "really heavy OB supporing" illegals can cut in front of us?

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: eskimospy

I think everyone on this board knows how you feel about immigration. I don't see why we need several more pages of foam and flying spittle from you on the issue.

I'll spittle when and where I feel like it, so fuck off.

Oh I know you will, trust me. How long until you declare that 'your opinion of me has declined'?

I guess you didn't notice I went right by that when I told you to fuck off right oput of the gate. If you have something to add to the discussion of why our elected officials don't feel they need to do their sworn duty and uphold our laws instead of persoanlly attacking me again then feel free to do so.... otherwise fuck off.

 

[nixium]

Ah, now I see how this works.

All these days, I was laboriously following every little inane law USCIS throws in my way. I carefully saved up cash, avoided breaking even minor rules, was exceedingly careful when traveling out of the country. Since my path is so rocky, I didn't buy a home, made myself flexible enough to move easily, and spent my cash *within* this country. And oh, I learned English and tried to assimilate within this culture. And when I looked at the fact that it would take me around 8 years to get permanent residency, and another 5 to become a citizen, I soothed myself with the fact that things would have been much worse off in my home country.

Looks like I've had it all backward.

What I *should* have done is faked an SSN, not pay taxes, not worry about being skilled and work at manual labor. I should've just married someone ASAP and had as many children as I could, not worrying if I could support them on my paltry salary, not even worrying if I would be separated from my family because I'm not here legally. And English? who needs English? I should've just gone to my ethnic community and gotten my needs taken care of.

That way, I would've gotten the card that I'd waited for over a 100 days, meeting and persuading numerous USCIS officials to give me the rights I was legally entitled as prescribed by their own documentation, in a matter of hours. Why, I would've even gotten a free ride by DHS, no less!

I heartily thank the US Government for clearing up my misconceptions. I see the light now, and am free of my burdens. I will post haste start working on getting my first child out.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: Balt
Actually that is a change. In the past, families would have been split as only some of their members would have been arrested in the raid and then deported.

Just because you don't like the change doesn't mean it isn't a change. :roll:

Hummm..the new changes should be deport everyone in the family and they want to go back? Then go to the long line as millions of others that want to get in the US legally do.

 

[Craig234]

Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

I wouldn't call having an administration that feels it can do whatever it wants to a "change". It's just the same old shit with a different shitter.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I never said following the law wasn't important, I just don't see how this really impacts Obama's message of 'change'. (although I personally think our immigration laws should be thrown in the trash and redone)

I have no idea why your immigration status would have the slightest meaning as to if you are racist or not.

Hmmm..how about changes = for better?? Our immigration laws should change to "if you are here illegally, you are gone, the whole family <the multiple kids you got, cousins, bros,sis, the whole gange> are gone with you..period".

I want to show you and others that I am not some white rednecks that clinch to the Bibble and guns..but a legal first generation immigrant. I understand other immigrants (legal and illegal) and where they are coming from. I just don't want illegals cut in front of legals to get in and I want elected officials to enforce our laws. Too much to ask?

I don't post in P&N much but I couldn't help it when I saw the article. We (legals) are spending a bus load of money and time to get here legally and now this crap?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Craig234
Another thread with the mandatory sarcastic 'change you can believe in' template.

I wouldn't call having an administration that feels it can do whatever it wants to "change". It's just the same old shit. with a different shitter.

I'd call your misrepresentations of the Democratic President 'more of the same', not Obama, who is radically different than Bush in countless important ways - though not a few.