-
We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT POLL
Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
Not everybody actively makes the conscious choice break the law and to speed.
QuitBanningMe
Banned
Again. How do we help Mexico not suck? I don't see Canadians flocking to be here.
The only way to really resolve the problem is make them not want to come here or possibly make it so it isn't the shock to our system it is.
Make citizenship easier to obtain.
Work with the Mexican government to introduce English as required curriculum.
The Government of Mexico seems to encouraget their citizens to jump the fence. Why?
The only way to really resolve the problem is make them not want to come here or possibly make it so it isn't the shock to our system it is.
Make citizenship easier to obtain.
Work with the Mexican government to introduce English as required curriculum.
The Government of Mexico seems to encouraget their citizens to jump the fence. Why?
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
Because they, just like any other illegal immigrant from any other country, are the same "quality" folks who refuse to better their own society in favor of basking in a superior society until it's dried up and worthless just like theirs, then moving on to the next.
QuitBanningMe
Banned
This is BS.The only thing they are "successful" at is devaluing the wage for jobs on both ends of the spectrum.
As far as jobs people don't want to do I haven't really seen one. The kid in the story is a drywall finisher. When I was younger a good drywall finisher made $15+/ hour. Now he can expect to make around $6 if he can get the job at all because everyone else on the crews speaks Spanish. Do people want those jobs now? No because its wage has been devalued and Spanish is almost a requirement not because people didn't want the job in the first place so they imported Mexicans to do it.
Are some of you that think people don't want the jobs the same ones bitching about outsourcing?
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
ARE YOU KIDDING!? :Q Joining the military doesn't make them suddenly participate. It just gives them another option for free room and board. The military kicks out people who suck. What's to stop them from being in the military, and STILL sucking?
QuitBanningMe
Banned
Actually Nik if you bothered to educate yourself you would find that immigrants are usually the cream of the crop of the country they came from. This is slightly less true of our southern friends because of the ease of entry.
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
Then why aren't the illegals up here to the north all frickin geniuses? Oh, that's right, it doesn't matter. They're still illegal and need to be deported! If they were so damn smart, they'd have done things the right way to begin with!
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
Hey I never thought of it that way 😕
:Q
:thumbsup:😀:beer: frickin awesome! I learned something today. 😀 Again, someone wraps a 2x4 with some gold ol' common sense and smacks me clean in the face with it. 😀
QuitBanningMe
Banned
Yes we do get illegals from other countries just not at the rate of Mexicans. Also notice the bold.
The American landscape is changing and you people feel threatened! IMO, you had better learn Spanish because this is the next ethnic group that is going to rival the Caucasians for power. Within 30 years I fully expect to see a Spanish US president. He will be the first ever minority president elected in America and this is going to cause a great deal of tension.
Deal with is and embrace the people that are coming to America legally and yes illegally! The American landscape is changing and to be honest there is nothing you can do about it.
just my opinion.
Deal with is and embrace the people that are coming to America legally and yes illegally! The American landscape is changing and to be honest there is nothing you can do about it.
just my opinion.
QuitBanningMe
Banned
Then why aren't the illegals up here to the north all frickin geniuses? Oh, that's right, it doesn't matter. They're still illegal and need to be deported! If they were so damn smart, they'd have done things the right way to begin with![/quote]
What good does it do to deport them? Do you think you have solved the problem?
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
Yeah, I was still recovering from the 2x4 to the face to comment on this, but yeah. We get illegals from all over the world. Customs and INS aren't perfect, and they work damned hard to accomplish what they already do. However, since the border is RIGHT HERE and their society is so much different than ours, it only makes sense to have our biggest boarder patrol effort directed *cough* south.
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
Let's see. If you were outside wearing shorts and a tank top in freezing rain and wanted to break in to your neighbor's house so you could get out of the rain, but you *knew* that the very second you took one single step into the house, you'd be thrown back out on your ass, would you bother trying to break in?
If you discourage entry at the boarder, then reinforce that discouragement with a guarantee of being immediately deported, are you going to spend the money it takes to get across the boarder to begin with?
QuitBanningMe
Banned
There may be 13 million illegals and it cost $600+ dollars to deport each. Add to that the cost of investigation. Then add the cost of doing the impossible. Not letting anynore in.
No matter what you think deportation is not the deterrent you think it is and does nothin to solve the problem.
QuitBanningMe
Banned
Nik don't get me wrong as I said in the other thread I agree with you. However I don't think your solution is viable.
if a minority meets the requirements to be president who is to stop him from running? they have to be a US born citizen though that the main part.
I will embrace the nations around us when they embrace us, Mexico chanting Osama at the world cup does not embrace the US, it is pure hatred, come here legally and you are fine and embraced because you worked for it. But if you jump the boarder you should not be able to stay and leach off our society.
StageLeft
No Lifer
Because it loses a lot of its unemployable people and then they send a lot of money down south, Mexico benefits from them. Essentially it wins on both counts.
Of course the thing about not wanting the jobs is a bogus pathetic argument. Canada doesn't have this massive illegal immigration problem and, with a very similar economy, has no problem filling the low-end crap jobs.
I would not say "usually" in the case of the US, because the majority of its immigrants are illegal (I think; I can't imagine more than two million/year coming in legally). In most cases, like those who are coming in legally, yes they represent an above-average from whence they came. Indeed, to come to the US legally for most people the best option is employment based, which is lawyers and engineers, not fast food workers. A lot of these people are ambitious and well-educated. Moreoever, a lot of these people appreciate and respect the country they've moved to.
However, when you've got scores of people cutting fences and jumping ditches, and then working in low-income jobs (partly due to lack of options for an illegal, and partly due to lack of education), I'd hate to think they are the cream of the crop.
Wrong, it's their country, why can they do nothing about it? The politicians just don't care enough, even though Americans as a whole are very much against illegal immigration. Let's take your thoughts further: Should the US open its borders and give greencards to anybody who can get a bus ride to the border? Every country on the planet has immigration policies, enforced to various degrees. The US has immigration policies as well, because it's a good idea. Where it fails is enforcing them.
Anyhow, deporting is a total waste of money, in reality, because they'll come back up. The way to fix this is to limit the attraction of illegals to the country. That's easy: start enforcing federal laws that are already on the books that say "do not employ illegals." i can find you scores of illegals being paid, but the authorities don't care. Go into any of these employers or construction sites and start levying fines against employers, and you'll see this problem fixed properly. Of course in the interim the illegals who are here will be attracted to nefarious sources of income (crime), but then that's the US' fault for waiting so long before not allowing them in. So, then another alternative is to have REAL border security. Currently it's just a facade.
Demon-Xanth
Lifer
Deported, then offered green cards or educational visas.
Illegal aliens are illegal. If they came in legally, I'd have no problem.
Illegal aliens are illegal. If they came in legally, I'd have no problem.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 24K
-
-
