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Illegal deported 17 times to Mexico. Comes back last time, drunk, crashes at 100MPH killing college student

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Yes, it was built on immigration. LEGAL immigration.

so the mexicans should come and kill us all and take our land like we did to the people that were here before us? then it would be "legal"
 
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Yes, it was built on immigration. LEGAL immigration.

so the mexicans should come and kill us all and take our land like we did to the people that were here before us? then it would be "legal"

Just because some of our ancesters committed those crimes doesn't mean we should bend over.
 
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

Thank goodness we got someone to cut that yard for $3/hr so the CEOs could increase their salary! America is so much better!


Yes i say nothing because NO ONE wants to do the jobs they do. Yeah right taking jobs away from americans? i bet that the chances of you working in the fields are zero to none. so why do you think they come over here and do the jobs that no one wants? becuase theyre trying to survive, cant you all understand that? no matter what you do, some one who is trying to survive will do anything. Since youre not in that position, you can't understand that.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
 
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Native Americans aren't either. They came over but just longer ago.

None of that "who was here first" matters now. This is America now.

The immigration of old was entirely different. They worked with equal rights, equal taxes. Now we've got millions pouring in taking jobs for a fraction of the cost that Americans could realistically be paid, and they don't pay taxes. They use government property. They're taking jobs, consuming tax dollars, and not integrating into our society.

And many of them send their money back to their families in Mexico.

This is nothing like legal immigration.

first of all its not only mexico, its many countries. second of all, legal or not illegal, people still send money to their families because their family needs it.
 
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

Thank goodness we got someone to cut that yard for $3/hr so the CEOs could increase their salary! America is so much better!


Yes i say nothing because NO ONE wants to do the jobs they do. Yeah right taking jobs away from americans? i bet that the chances of you working in the fields are zero to none. so why do you think they come over here and do the jobs that no one wants? becuase theyre trying to survive, cant you all understand that? no matter what you do, some one who is trying to survive will do anything. Since youre not in that position, you can't understand that.


No one wants the jobs at those prices.

There used to be Americans working on yard work and at the supermarket. Now all I see are illegals.
 
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Yes, it was built on immigration. LEGAL immigration.

so the mexicans should come and kill us all and take our land like we did to the people that were here before us? then it would be "legal"

Just because some of our ancesters committed those crimes doesn't mean we should bend over.

Well then, just because one illegal commited this crime why should they all be looked at as murderers or rapists.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.

Its not about beind paid low, its weather any one is willing to do those kinds of jobs.
 
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

Thank goodness we got someone to cut that yard for $3/hr so the CEOs could increase their salary! America is so much better!


Yes i say nothing because NO ONE wants to do the jobs they do. Yeah right taking jobs away from americans? i bet that the chances of you working in the fields are zero to none. so why do you think they come over here and do the jobs that no one wants? becuase theyre trying to survive, cant you all understand that? no matter what you do, some one who is trying to survive will do anything. Since youre not in that position, you can't understand that.


What about fast food joints??? What about the other day when i was in a Kroger and asked a store employee wearing a kroger smock where an item was, she said no habla english. WTF WTF WTF WTF!!!! :|
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
chill, k? 😕

you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.
 
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Native Americans aren't either. They came over but just longer ago.

None of that "who was here first" matters now. This is America now.

The immigration of old was entirely different. They worked with equal rights, equal taxes. Now we've got millions pouring in taking jobs for a fraction of the cost that Americans could realistically be paid, and they don't pay taxes. They use government property. They're taking jobs, consuming tax dollars, and not integrating into our society.

And many of them send their money back to their families in Mexico.

This is nothing like legal immigration.

first of all its not only mexico, its many countries. second of all, legal or not illegal, people still send money to their families because their family needs it.

My point with sending money back is that it's nothing like legal immigration in American History.

In the past, people would come over here and contribute back to America. They'd pay taxes, and make a living. The wouldn't ship all their money back to Europe and Asia.
 
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Yes, it was built on immigration. LEGAL immigration.

so the mexicans should come and kill us all and take our land like we did to the people that were here before us? then it would be "legal"

Just because some of our ancesters committed those crimes doesn't mean we should bend over.

Well then, just because one illegal commited this crime why should they all be looked at as murderers or rapists.

That was some other people.

All I think this story shows is how poor our immigration control is.

I'm not generalizing groups of people as murders and rapists.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Its not about beind paid low, its weather any one is willing to do those kinds of jobs.

wrong. its the other way around. nobody wants to do them because the wages are low.
exactly. and how much should farmers pay someone to pick their crops?

 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
chill, k? 😕

you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.

no sh!t, this type of work could be easily done by a homeless white guy, but they'ed rather stand on the side of a freeway offramp and hold a sign. They're just too lazy.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Its not about beind paid low, its weather any one is willing to do those kinds of jobs.

wrong. its the other way around. nobody wants to do them because the wages are low.

well then its not their fault minimum wage is so low. but still its not like youd wanna do that kind of job even if you werent paid at minimum wage, would you?
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
chill, k? 😕

you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.

tell me how lazy are Americans?? Please tell me??? Tell us we really want to know.
 
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Yes, it was built on immigration. LEGAL immigration.

so the mexicans should come and kill us all and take our land like we did to the people that were here before us? then it would be "legal"

Just because some of our ancesters committed those crimes doesn't mean we should bend over.

Well then, just because one illegal commited this crime why should they all be looked at as murderers or rapists.

That was some other people.

All I think this story shows is how poor our immigration control is.

I'm not generalizing groups of people as murders and rapists.

You're right, immigration control is a joke, but we shouldn't condemn all illegals when a crime like this is commided you have to look at all the other factors like his obvious alcohol abuse, which is a universal problem
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
chill, k? 😕

you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.

tell me how lazy are Americans?? Please tell me??? Tell us we really want to know.
dude, cop the attitude and be open minded.

my brother is a border patrol agent. he sees exactly what is going on.

did you answer the question asked of you earlier. would you do these jobs, such as picking crops, for minimum wage?

 
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?

you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.

Yes, it was built on immigration. LEGAL immigration.

so the mexicans should come and kill us all and take our land like we did to the people that were here before us? then it would be "legal"

Just because some of our ancesters committed those crimes doesn't mean we should bend over.

Well then, just because one illegal commited this crime why should they all be looked at as murderers or rapists.

That was some other people.

All I think this story shows is how poor our immigration control is.

I'm not generalizing groups of people as murders and rapists.

You're right, immigration control is a joke, but we shouldn't condemn all illegals when a crime like this is commided you have to look at all the other factors like his obvious alcohol abuse, which is a universal problem

thats my point. cuz some one could easily have committed that crime even if that illegal immigrant wasnt here, it happens like everyday. This is the whole terrorism fear again. just because some muslim or whatever from Al Qaeda did it on 9/11, it doesnt mean that all muslims are terrorists. right?
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
chill, k? 😕

you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.

tell me how lazy are Americans?? Please tell me??? Tell us we really want to know.
dude, cop the attitude and be open minded.

my brother is a border patrol agent. he sees exactly what is going on.

did you answer the question asked of you earlier. would you do these jobs, such as picking crops, for minimum wage?

no im not dropping the "attitude" this topic/subject pisses me off and i will voice my opinion on it. I am not alone in my stance on the immigration problem ask around dude and see what your friends, family neighbors think about it.

to answer the question, no I would not pick strawberries for min wage. That is why I went to college so i wouldnt be in that situation. satisified??
 
No I wouldn't work minimum wage.

However, I'd want other Americans to have that right. And it doesn't have to be minimum wage. Americans that did yard work may have done it for 8-10/hr. In certain areas of the country, illegals are willing to work for less.

It's not like all illegals get paid minimum wage. A lot get less. Minimum wage really only applies to legal work, that's taxable.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
chill, k? 😕

you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.

tell me how lazy are Americans?? Please tell me??? Tell us we really want to know.
dude, cop the attitude and be open minded.

my brother is a border patrol agent. he sees exactly what is going on.

did you answer the question asked of you earlier. would you do these jobs, such as picking crops, for minimum wage?

no im not dropping the "attitude" this topic/subject pisses me off and i will voice my opinion on it. I am not alone in my stance on the immigration problem ask around dude and see what your friends, family neighbors think about it.

to answer the question, no I would not pick strawberries for min wage. That is why I went to college so i wouldnt be in that situation. satisified??


Well of course you went to college, but how about them? they have no opportunities whatsoever to get a decent education like you did. they do those jobs because theyre in need, and youre not thats why you wouldnt do it. do you think theyd be doing it if they went to college and all that? no one would. they dont have the resources to get a better education.
 
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.

Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.

Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.


Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.

if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system

1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine

If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
chill, k? 😕

you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.

tell me how lazy are Americans?? Please tell me??? Tell us we really want to know.
dude, cop the attitude and be open minded.

my brother is a border patrol agent. he sees exactly what is going on.

did you answer the question asked of you earlier. would you do these jobs, such as picking crops, for minimum wage?

no im not dropping the "attitude" this topic/subject pisses me off and i will voice my opinion on it. I am not alone in my stance on the immigration problem ask around dude and see what your friends, family neighbors think about it.

to answer the question, no I would not pick strawberries for min wage. That is why I went to college so i wouldnt be in that situation. satisified??


Well of course you went to college, but how about them? they have no opportunities whatsoever to get a decent education like you did. they do those jobs because theyre in need, and youre not thats why you wouldnt do it. do you think theyd be doing it if they went to college and all that? no one would. they dont have the resources to get a better education.


Yes it is unfortunate that they do not have the opportunities that we do. However, it is my belief that we should work to better America and it's citizens first, before we try to tackle the world.

Leave charity to charity.
 
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