Illegal Aliens... Simply Amazing

[Zebo]

that is an immensely inane idea.

of course with tens of thousands of people streaming across the border unchecked i bet you would be one of the first people that gripe about the lack of security after the next terrorist attack, and the rise in unemployment due to the massive influx of people with no jobs.

of course if a republican is in office you could just blame it on him, which is exactly what the proponets of this idiocy would do.

1. There are no mexicans terrorising USA. This argument is BS anyway.. all the terrorists got here with papers with lots of money in thier pocket. Mexicans are comming to work be productive.

2. In a free market you're paid what you're worth and hired based on worth. And I don't complain about unemployment due to labor compitition unless it's slave labor from red china which seems perfectly acceptable to most, especially the "free-trade" crowd. By closing the borders we are inflating our value in the free market while depriving would be citizens willing to work for less and businesses wanting to hire for less the opportunity. Very un-american very protectionist. And worst is we are all immigrants so hypocritical too.

PS.. And I still contend racist.. If only WASPs were immigrating this would'nt even be an issue.

 

[alexruiz]

I couldn't resist it.....

I suggest everyone loooks at the what I posted (second post) in
this thread, there are some links to get entertained..... Then, I would like to see the crowd claiming that terrorists will come from my country to say the same

It is not black and white, it is extremely complex!

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Zebo
Ever notice "illegal immigration" became a problem as soon as it was brown immigration? For hundreds of years europeans came here unresricted..hell my parents came in the early 60's and applied for everything while here and got it all. Seems to have changed shortly after that when the brown and yellow man cometh.

Difference is there's an ocean between Europe and the US and boats/planes traveling between the two have to land at ports which can be monitored.

But nice try.

So if they fly in from mexico you're happy?

They can't...that's the point. I've never flown out of Mexico (just Europe), but they'd have to go through Customs.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Zebo


So if they fly in from mexico you're happy?

Same question for you. Shadow.

And no they wer'nt under any quota. My dad says when they tried to get my moms sister the governement just started a quota so they would have to wait to do so, ultimatly no problem but still waiting. This was from sweden.

the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 replaced the quotas from the immigration act of 1924, so whether before or after this fact they fell under one quota system or another in the 60's, and the 1965 laws allowed exemptions for family re-unification.

as for your question:

yes, they would be more easily caught. and fewer illegals because most of them cannot afford a plane ticket.

also remember your asking a cherokee what he thinks about immigration... ROFL!!!

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Zebo


So if they fly in from mexico you're happy?

Same question for you. Shadow.

And no they wer'nt under any quota. My dad says when they tried to get my moms sister the governement just started a quota so they would have to wait to do so, ultimatly no problem but still waiting. This was from sweden.

the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 replaced the quotas from the immigration act of 1924, so whether before or after this fact they fell under one quota system or another in the 60's, and the 1965 laws allowed exemptions for family re-unification.

as for your question:

yes, they would be more easily caught. and fewer illegals because most of them cannot afford a plane ticket.

also remember your asking a cherokee what he thinks about immigration... ROFL!!!

Yup thats about the right time.. 63' is when they came. Aunt in 65ish... I think this 65' bill added numerical quotas by country..which before was'nt so.

If I was indian I'd feel the same way...just cause of the genocide...you guys offered us peaceful living but once we broke every treaty we signed, decided to own and take land, and blamed you for it all..killed like no tomorrow..well I would still be sniping from the hills. j/k

 

[Rmex]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Zebo


So if they fly in from mexico you're happy?

Same question for you. Shadow.

And no they wer'nt under any quota. My dad says when they tried to get my moms sister the governement just started a quota so they would have to wait to do so, ultimatly no problem but still waiting. This was from sweden.

the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 replaced the quotas from the immigration act of 1924, so whether before or after this fact they fell under one quota system or another in the 60's, and the 1965 laws allowed exemptions for family re-unification.

as for your question:

yes, they would be more easily caught. and fewer illegals because most of them cannot afford a plane ticket.

also remember your asking a cherokee what he thinks about immigration... ROFL!!!

Yup thats about the right time.. 63' is when they came. Aunt in 65ish... I think this 65' bill added numerical quotas by country..which before was'nt so.

If I was indian I'd feel the same way...just cause of the genocide...you guys offered us peaceful living but once we broke every treaty we signed, decided to own and take land, and blamed you for it all..killed like no tomorrow..well I would still be sniping from the hills. j/k

You mean Native American. And this is exactly why the whole deal about so called 'mexican illegal immigration' is wrong--more than 80% of us [mexican] ARE native american. The so called 'illegalness' of a Apache/mexican or Aztec/mexican immigrating back to the south west is ridiculous, we were here first before whites stole the southwest and so the whole illegal thing is stupid. afterall, how can you be illegal on land that was yours in the first place.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Q]Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Zebo


So if they fly in from mexico you're happy?

Same question for you. Shadow.

And no they wer'nt under any quota. My dad says when they tried to get my moms sister the governement just started a quota so they would have to wait to do so, ultimatly no problem but still waiting. This was from sweden.

the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 replaced the quotas from the immigration act of 1924, so whether before or after this fact they fell under one quota system or another in the 60's, and the 1965 laws allowed exemptions for family re-unification.

as for your question:

yes, they would be more easily caught. and fewer illegals because most of them cannot afford a plane ticket.

also remember your asking a cherokee what he thinks about immigration... ROFL!!!

Yup thats about the right time.. 63' is when they came. Aunt in 65ish... I think this 65' bill added numerical quotas by country..which before was'nt so.

If I was indian I'd feel the same way...just cause of the genocide...you guys offered us peaceful living but once we broke every treaty we signed, decided to own and take land, and blamed you for it all..killed like no tomorrow..well I would still be sniping from the hills. j/k[/quote]

well truth be told differnt nations(tribes)and even clans within tribes acted differently. in many cases the fault was not one sided. besides i am an american now, and am just as proud of my irish half!

Originally posted by: Rmex
You mean Native American. And this is exactly why the whole deal about so called 'mexican illegal immigration' is wrong--more than 80% of us [mexican] ARE native american. The so called 'illegalness' of a Apache/mexican or Aztec/mexican immigrating back to the south west is ridiculous, we were here first before whites stole the southwest and so the whole illegal thing is stupid. afterall, how can you be illegal on land that was yours in the first place.

actually the spaniards stole the southwest and mexico. the US got it from them. you have a minor point about the apaches, but the aztecs were not that far north. for that matter the land both the apaches and aztecs lived one at one time belonged to other tribes, especially in the case of the aztecs. i can empathize with your position, however i can see the other side as well, can you name ANY region where the people living on it at some point did not take it from another group of people, who in turn got it from another and so on?

this point was raised to me when i was talking about the recognition of the borders of the cherokee nation by the supreme court in the 1830's, it is a good one i must admit.

 

[0roo0roo]

you should see how mexicans treat their indians

 

[colonel]

people like this came over and without been a citizen are dying in Iraq for our flag and country, becuase they like it here but when someone rich is coming from Europe they give it the green card.

 

[maluckey]

I guess that I need to set the record straight again.

Immigration quotas are negotiated for by the Department of State, in coordination with INS. The quotas are not absolute. If one country, let's say Russia hasn't used their quota limit for whatever reason, then another country can petition to use the leftovers. Mexico is the biggest claimant to leftover quotas, and to illegal immigration.

To respond to Snowy Enigma who claims to have lived here most of their entire life as illegal: You kinda are confused about Immigration status. You parents are most likely adjusting their status (I-130 petition), and in that legal state are not "true illegals", in that they probably have INS Work Authorization, and with such authorization, do pay taxes, and do have a special SSN, valid only with INS permission. Once the case is adjudicated, and IF there are no legal, social, or financial reasons contrary to the application for Adjustment of Status, you, and the members listed on the petitions will be granted Permanet Legal Resident status and recieve your I-551 (Green Card). Meanwhile, you are covered under their blanket while they are adjusting for status. In most cases, in this status, if you leave the country you will not be able to return for a minimum of five years, and would be Processed for Expedited Removal under 8 USC 1182(a)(ii) (intended Immigrant).

As far as terrorists entering the country through the Southern Land Border. Been there, seen that, and can tell you first hand that it happens. They are deported, and barred from entering so long as they live. Federal Agencies cannot give press statements without approval from Higher. You will never get approval if it's a drug dealer or spook, unless they are internationally famous/infamous.

 

[rjain]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

it is not a race issue, it is a proximity issue. it is much easier for a mexican to swim here across the rio than for a european to swim here across the atlantic.

For your logic to be relevant, it must be easy for an Asian to swim across the Pacific.

 

[alexruiz]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

yes, they would be more easily caught. and fewer illegals because most of them cannot afford a plane ticket.

In the links I posted in the other thread there are some prices..... The "polleros" charge from $1400 USD per person....... This price buys 3 attempts to cross.
My last plane ticket (MEX-DTW) was only $580 USD...... Money for a plane ticket IS not a factor for the ones who are "serious" about crossing.....

 

[Rmex]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you should see how mexicans treat their indians

You should see how the French treat thier Whites