Illegal Alien/criminal sues San Francisco for not giving him sanctuary

[fskimospy]

The current process is not working because we have not found adequate deterrents, we have millions coming in and a paltry thousands being deported. The math speaks for itself.

I am all for improving the process as I know it is incredibly bureaucratic and difficult to navigate.

The number of illegal immigrants in the US has been decreasing for the last 10 years or so and has declined by more than a million from its peak.

I also believe that as it relates to our southern border, those crossing it have no interest in engaging that process no matter how efficient we make it because the status quo is a cake and eat it too scenario.

You think they would rather risk death or arrest than come here legally? They don't come here legally because they effectively can't. This is one of many reasons why we should reinstitute guest worker programs to legalize these people coming over the border.

 

[Starbuck1975]

The number of illegal immigrants in the US has been decreasing for the last 10 years or so and has declined by more than a million from its peak.

You think they would rather risk death or arrest than come here legally? They don't come here legally because they effectively can't. This is one of many reasons why we should reinstitute guest worker programs to legalize these people coming over the border.

A decline in a very big number is still a very big number

"I lost 50 lbs" does not sound as impressive if your starting weight is 300 lbs.

I fully support guest worker programs.

 

[fskimospy]

A decline in a very big number is still a very big number

"I lost 50 lbs" does not sound as impressive if your starting weight is 300 lbs.

I fully support guest worker programs.

There's been an almost 20% reduction in illegal immigrants as a percentage of the US population, from about 4% to about 3.3%.

 

[Starbuck1975]

There's been an almost 20% reduction in illegal immigrants as a percentage of the US population, from about 4% to about 3.3%.

You are still focusing on the wrong metric. Reduction is certainly a good thing and I find it ironic that liberals take such offense to "build a wall" when Obama quite effectively but quietly stemmed the tide.

3.3% relative to the entire US population may seem insignificant, but that population is not equally distributed across the entire United States.

It is problematically concentrated in a few high density areas. This creates problems for local governments as census and tax revenue data is inaccurate, which throws off planning for things like schools and infrastructure, not to mention the crowding of people under substandard and unsafe living conditions. This in turn creates a cycle of poverty, as the children born in these communities lack the resources to enter the melting pot. Rinse wash repeat.

 

[OutHouse]

We exert sovereignty over territory, not over people

not true. once an american citizen you can not give up your citizenship to not pay taxes. Expats who give up their citizenship are still expected to file with the IRS. if you dont,,,, well just dont ever come back to the US, you will be put in the pokey before you even get out of the airport.

 

[werepossum]

Ah good old dishonest werepossum.

Your bullshit was already debunked at least once and like always you decided to repeat your bullshit.

Btw, the links you used to counter the facts, cited dailycaller, lol.

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...ction-killing-it.2478214/page-5#post-38315416

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/05/coming-to-america/


But hey its not like facts ever matter to you. You'll lay low for a month or two before popping up spewing your debunked bullshit again.

You should really find someone capable of reading your links and explaining them to you. Assuming such a person exists, such an accomplishment would easily be worth a Nobel Prize, so it wouldn't be purely charity. The Central American Minors Refugee/Parole Program began in 2014. Its role is to fly minors into the United States as "parolees", meaning they are here illegally but we agree not to prosecute them for being here illegally.

 

[werepossum]

not true. once an american citizen you can not give up your citizenship to not pay taxes. Expats who give up their citizenship are still expected to file with the IRS. if you dont,,,, well just dont ever come back to the US, you will be put in the pokey before you even get out of the airport.

The other part of his assertion is also not completely true. Large portions of our border territory have been ceded to Mexican narco syndicates and ruled off-limits to American citizens. We exercise no sovereinty over that territory, except in the abstract sense of the Dali Lama exercising sovereinty over Tibet.

 

[ivwshane]

You should really find someone capable of reading your links and explaining them to you. Assuming such a person exists, such an accomplishment would easily be worth a Nobel Prize, so it wouldn't be purely charity. The Central American Minors Refugee/Parole Program began in 2014. Its role is to fly minors into the United States as "parolees", meaning they are here illegally but we agree not to prosecute them for being here illegally.

So which airlines were chartered? None? That would be lie number one from you. The parents were here legally and had to make a request to the government in order to bring their children here where they would undergo testing to see if they qualified, that means that the children were here legally pending the out come off such screening. That's lie number two from you.

You are a dishonest piece of shit poster and have proven so time and time again.

 

[Fern]

not true. once an american citizen you can not give up your citizenship to not pay taxes. Expats who give up their citizenship are still expected to file with the IRS. if you dont,,,, well just dont ever come back to the US, you will be put in the pokey before you even get out of the airport.

US citizens who renounce their citizenship cease having a US tax filing obligation (via citizenship).

However, if the fed gov can prove that citizenship was given up primarily for purposes of avoiding (US) tax that person will continue to subject to tax as if a US citizen for a period of ten years (IIRC) following the renunciation of citizenship.

Fern

 

[werepossum]

So which airlines were chartered? None? That would be lie number one from you. The parents were here legally and had to make a request to the government in order to bring their children here where they would undergo testing to see if they qualified, that means that the children were here legally pending the out come off such screening. That's lie number two from you.

You are a dishonest piece of shit poster and have proven so time and time again.

See, you cannot offend me. It would be like being offended by lint. (Albeit lint is smarter, so the insults might actually sting a bit rather than being pure unintentional comic gold.)

From YOUR link:

Funding for the flights will be provided by the State Department’s Bureau for Population, Migration and Refugees. But “the parent of the child will sign a promissory note agreeing to repay the cost of travel to the United States,” according to a State Department fact sheet about the program. However, the document states that “an individual authorized parole will not be eligible for a travel loan but must book and pay for the flight to the United States.”

A qualifying parent is at least 18 years old and lives in the U.S. as one of the following:
Permanent Resident Status, or

• Temporary Protected Status, or
• Parolee, or
• Deferred Action
• Deferred Enforced Departure, or
• Withholding of Removal

Temporary Protected Status, Parolee, Deferred Action, Deferring Enforced Departure, and Withholding of Removal ALL require that the parent be here illegally. If the parent were here legally, there would be no need for any of those.

I won't call you dishonest, since that requires the intelligence to understand the difference between truth and lies.

 

[ivwshane]

See, you cannot offend me. It would be like being offended by lint. (Albeit lint is smarter, so the insults might actually sting a bit rather than being pure unintentional comic gold.)

From YOUR link:



Temporary Protected Status, Parolee, Deferred Action, Deferring Enforced Departure, and Withholding of Removal ALL require that the parent be here illegally. If the parent were here legally, there would be no need for any of those.

I won't call you dishonest, since that requires the intelligence to understand the difference between truth and lies.

You are seriously one dumb mother fucker!

 

[Starbuck1975]

Triggered lint

 

[werepossum]

Triggered lint

lmao!

 

[Vic]

Its not liberal, its not madness, its America.

Anyone in America can sue anyone.

You can sue Trump for spitting on your sidewalk or calling you a Orange goon.

Not sure I agree with it but that's the law.

"... and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

This is what the OP wants us to believe is "liberal madness."

 

[agent00f]

lol Racism - is there anything in the universe it can't explain?

It does seem to explain quite a lot, huh? Like why rust belt trump types love to blame illegals busing tables and picking fruit for all their troubles instead of their southern counterparts literally taking manufacturing jobs with a tax-break race to the bottom.

Conservatives always on the lookout for the Real problem.