IIT vs MIT

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: nikhilesh
Hmmmm.......

But then MIT and its students are considered to be the best in the world?

Is that recognition only based on the infrastructure of MIT?

The best Undergraduate institution for engineering and physical sciences is by far CalTech. They give more resources and nurturing to their undergrads than MIT or any other school of similar prestige.

If you are searching for an undergrad place, I would definitely consider CalTech!

On Graduate level work, MIT and CalTech are about the same, so it will depend on what field.

IIT is a great school, but I hear they try to destroy their undergrads with work and not necessarily learning. (Relatives went to IIT)

For undergrad studies, I would compare IIT to Caltech, not MIT.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Are you suggesting that IIT is better than MIT? hahahaha

it is widely considered as the best set of engineering schools in the world, consistentily rated over the top eng. schools in the us like MIT and caltech

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
The difficulty getting into that school is way up there, but once you are in I am not sure you could call the school any hardrer than another. I have a guy who i work with that went to MIT and all he says is that it was good, it was fun and he worked hard. He really never mentions anything like MIT being really difficult.

my friend says the same about harvard.

i went to columbia and found some courses to be easy and other courses to be challenging.

overall, though, if someone looks at me and asks me how i perceived college academically, i would really have to go with "i took challenging classes that were more difficult than the average student's courseload." the computer science major is considered one of the harder ones: a lot of people drop out early on, but i stuck with it.

i guess it depends on your scholastic aptitude. at this point, i'm not sure whether i am better with numbers or with words. i certainly don't have a knack for programming languages anymore, nor do i ever want to think theoretically again.

(to each his own.)

 

[Chunkee]

Cal Tech baby

 

[akubi]

if you want to base your comparison strictly on acceptance rates tokyo university has ALL undergrad colleges beat. ~500k apply and <1500 get in.

mit fosters personal growth by nurturing you in an environment bustling with bright minds of past, present, and the future. if you want to spend 4 years of your life in india rather than in cambridge/boston, go right ahead. the network you make during college will help you throughout your life. if you want to stay/research/work in india for the rest of your life, go right ahead to IIT.

college is what you make of it. you can come out a complete loser no matter which school you enter. obviously, the resources (profs/classmates/research funding) are there to help you make the best of it, and not every school can provide the same quality. so you can cry some more about how mit has "more research money." if you can't find govt/private/alumni funding, your school's doing something wrong, or nothing at all.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: akubi
if you want to base your comparison strictly on acceptance rates tokyo university has ALL undergrad colleges beat. ~500k apply and <1500 get in.

Yes, but there is a national test that everyone takes regardless of which public university they want, no?

btw. nihongo hanaseru?

mit fosters personal growth by nurturing you in an environment bustling with bright minds of past, present, and the future. if you want to spend 4 years of your life in india rather than in cambridge/boston, go right ahead. the network you make during college will help you throughout your life. if you want to stay/research/work in india for the rest of your life, go right ahead to IIT.

college is what you make of it. you can come out a complete loser no matter which school you enter. obviously, the resources (profs/classmates/research funding) are there to help you make the best of it, and not every school can provide the same quality. so you can cry some more about how mit has "more research money." if you can't find govt/private/alumni funding, your school's doing something wrong, or nothing at all.

I'm not sure he was actually attacking anything.

 

[rgwalt]

There is a disparity in quality between the IIT schools. For instance, IIT Bombay is regarded as the most difficult and best of the seven (if I recall correctly). I've met many IIT grads in graduate school. However, I realize that these students are the best of the 3000 or so that graduate each year and want to come to graduate school in the US. I've also not met many MIT grads. So, honestly I cannot make a comparison based on personal experience.

That being said, from what I've seen and heard, IIT is a very solid school for undergraduate studies in math, science, and engineering. The average IIT grad is likely comparable academics-wise with the average grad of a top 10 school in the US in the same field of study. However, it says something that the vast majority of IIT grads that want to attend graduate school come to the US. It also says something when you consider MIT is likely to be the top school on any IIT student's list.

We see the best of the best coming out of India into the US. US schools can afford to be selective with their offers to Indian students. On the whole, the Indian grad students I've met are smarter than their American counterparts. However, there is always variation and I've met some Indians who are average or below average when compared to their American counterparts. There is further variation in different fields of study that make comparisons difficult.

R

 

[PHiuR]

ITT vs MIT? heh

 

[scottish144]

MIT = IIT with better resources, funding, equipment, and dorms.

 

[scottish144]

You may want to look at CALTECH too. Its the West Coast Equivalent of MIT., and bout 3000 miles closer to home for you.

 

[BDawg]

If Indian schools / technology / culture is so good, why do people have their eyeballs eaten by ants in the hospitals?

 

[UlricT]

Originally posted by: BDawg
If Indian schools / technology / culture is so good, why do people have their eyeballs eaten by ants in the hospitals?

<^>
It MIT/CalTech was so good, why do doctors in the US botch up surgeries?

 

[akubi]

Originally posted by: UlricT

Originally posted by: BDawg
If Indian schools / technology / culture is so good, why do people have their eyeballs eaten by ants in the hospitals?

<^>
It MIT/CalTech was so good, why do doctors in the US botch up surgeries?

cuz neither one has a med school.

you pwned yourself

 

[AgentEL]

Doesn't look like IIT wasn't considered close to one of the best schools in asia. Text

How is it comparable to one of the best engineering schools in the world?

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: UlricT

Originally posted by: BDawg
If Indian schools / technology / culture is so good, why do people have their eyeballs eaten by ants in the hospitals?

<^>
It MIT/CalTech was so good, why do doctors in the US botch up surgeries?

Botched surgeries and pests invading a hospital and devouring patients are different.

 

[mitaiwan82]

lengthy analysis of IIT

 

[dandruff]

Originally posted by: akubi

Originally posted by: UlricT

Originally posted by: BDawg
If Indian schools / technology / culture is so good, why do people have their eyeballs eaten by ants in the hospitals?

<^>
It MIT/CalTech was so good, why do doctors in the US botch up surgeries?

cuz neither one has a med school.

you pwned yourself

:laugh:


no make that :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[bhanson]

I read somewhere not too long ago that MIT is the hardest university to get in to (undergraduate) in the USA.

 

[imthebadguy]

Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
lengthy analysis of IIT

"This is IIT Bombay. Put Harvard, MIT and Princeton together, and you begin to get an idea of the status of this school in India." (Lesley Stahl, co-anchor on CBS 60 Minutes)

"And it's hard to think of anything like IIT anywhere in the world. It is a very unique institution." (Bill Gates, Microsoft)

"Per capita, IIT has produced more millionaires than any other undergraduate institution." (Salon Magazine)

"The process for selection is absolutely draconian." (McKinsey head Rajat Gupta quoted in Business Week article on IIT titled 'Whiz Kids.')

IIT will blow MIT outta the water hands down

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Doesn't look like IIT wasn't considered close to one of the best schools in asia. Text

How is it comparable to one of the best engineering schools in the world?

wow...korean schools pwn

 

[AgentEL]

Originally posted by: imthebadguy

Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
lengthy analysis of IIT

"This is IIT Bombay. Put Harvard, MIT and Princeton together, and you begin to get an idea of the status of this school in India." (Lesley Stahl, co-anchor on CBS 60 Minutes)

"And it's hard to think of anything like IIT anywhere in the world. It is a very unique institution." (Bill Gates, Microsoft)

"Per capita, IIT has produced more millionaires than any other undergraduate institution." (Salon Magazine)

"The process for selection is absolutely draconian." (McKinsey head Rajat Gupta quoted in Business Week article on IIT titled 'Whiz Kids.')

IIT will blow MIT outta the water hands down

Quote #1: Key phrase: "In India"

Quote #2: Gates has lauded MIT plenty of times

Quote #3: Sounds good.

Quote #4: Doesn't say much about the comparison between MIT and IIT.

 

[GeneValgene]

rankings are always flawed and controversial, but here's the world's top 200 universities according to the Times Higher Education Supplement

pdf direct link

IIT is ranked 3rd in technology (behind MIT and UC-Berkeley)

IIT is ranked 36th in science

IIT is ranked 50th overall of all world universities...

not too shabby if you ask me

 

[Sentinel]

Originally posted by: Imdmn04

Originally posted by: nikhilesh

Originally posted by: AgentEL
Are you suggesting that IIT is better than MIT? hahahaha

Maybe not on the basis of infrastructure but intellectually they are pretty good.Well its a known fact ,atleast in India,that people who haven't got into the IIT's have got scholarships at MIT,cornell,harvard etc..

Anyway i didnt mean to start a flame war here.
I just wanted to know certain things.

You just started a flame war.

American doesn't look at test scores alone, there is a big emphasis in extra-curricular activties and leadership skills. We admit more well-rounded individuals than those who are just good test takers.

Is this proven?

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: nikhilesh
Hmmmm.......

But then MIT and its students are considered to be the best in the world?

Is that recognition only based on the infrastructure of MIT?

Achievements, nobel prize winners, published papers, patents, inventions. Lookup some of the international college ratings, MIT is always in the top 5.

I hope you're not trying to insinuate that MIT is somehow not the top engineering/math/it university in the world...

Comparing the two schools:
top 100 universities in the world

MIT #5
IIT 202-302 bracket

Strictly speaking, a university degree only servles you as a means of getting a job.
So using that perspective, two idetical candidates one an MIT grad and one IIT grad, the MIT alum is better off.

#4 UC Berkeley. GO BEARS!

 

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