Ihave 2 nic cards installed, a crossover cable, and nothing.. any ideas why??

Pagealert

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I'm trying to network 2 computers.. both are on the same work group, both have enabled sharing files and printing.. but i can't find the other in my network neighborhood.. am i doing something wrong?? any suggestions?? thanks
 

ST4RCUTTER

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Are you sure you're using a cross-over cable? If you put the ends together do they look the same(colors) on the pin out? If so you have a straight through cable and will need a hub. Have you setup the IP for each NIC? Have you tried pinging the other computer?

 

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i specifically asked for a crossover cable, and it said crossover cable on the bag so i'm guessing thats what it is.. how do i ping the other computer or set the IP??
 

Pederv

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I had an interesting thing happen to me last week. While trying to get 2 NIC's in the same system, I found that even though windows recognized the NIC and no problems were reported by windows, I could only get one NIC to work and in only one slot.
If you've tried the normal network fixes, try moving the NIC's around in the systems.
 

Gk0r

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to ping open command prompt
Start-Run type in "command"
then in the prompt type in &quot;pnig <IP>&quot; where is IP is IP address to ping.
Te set IP go to TCP/IP options and where it says &quot;obtian IP automatically&quot; set on manual and type in IP adress you want :)
 

ST4RCUTTER

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Yeah, after you've assigned an IP to each NIC you can ping the way Gk0r says. Only without the type-o. I.E. ping <other IP>.

Remember, there are specific IP's reserved for local networks. I would go with something easy, like 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2. Then try pinging the other computer. Have you checked to make sure you have all the correct protocols on both computers?
 

Pagealert

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to find the IP address... do i go to start run winipcfg and read it off the ethernet adapter ip address?? or is there a way i can set my own?
 

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Under such situation, install the NetBEUI protocol, and make it default protocol.

Since there is nothing to configure in NetBEUI (this protocol does not need the IP number thingie), it is a way to identify whether the problem is hardware or wrong settings.

Make sure that you log on as Client for Microsoft Network.

All computer have the same Group name, and each one has a &quot;personal name&quot;.

There are three places to be checked for sharing,

The first two are in Control Panel, Network.

1. TCP/IP (or any other protocol that you are using for sharing) In the
Properties of the protocol it has to be bound to Client for Microsoft Network,
And Sharing is checked.

2. The general File and Print Sharing have to check.

3. In My Computer, individual Drive or/and printer has to be shared.

Right click on the component to you want to share, choose properties, click on the share tab, check Shared As, and give it a Name.


If it is working OK, you can start to deal with TCP/IP. This way you know that your network is functioning.

TCP/IP, and NetBEUI can co-exist together.

 

ST4RCUTTER

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Check your Network properties. You should see Client Service for NetWare, Client for Microsoft Networks, Internet Protocol(TCP/IP) and possibly a few others (NetBios). If they both have TCP/IP you should be fine.
 

Davegod75

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1.All you need is TCP/IP
2.Make the IP's of each computer 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2.
3.Make sure the subnet of each computer is 255.255.255.0
4.Make sure in your NIC card properties that the speed/transfer rate of both card is set the same. You can't have both on &quot;autodetect speed&quot; because they will both be trying to autodetect from each other when no speed is set and that creates a mess. I've found when i network this way that setting the speed of each card manually speeds things up a great deal.
5.Make sure each computer is in the same WORKGROUP
 

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I think JackMDS has a very good idea here. There is much you need to study, Daniel san, if setting the IP address is something you need to have your hand held on. Books are written about TCPIP (although you don't neccessarily need to read them be able to use it.)

IPX should work equally well as NetBEUI, and is supported much better by games for lanplay. To use IPX, add the microsoft protocol named IPX in your network neighborhoud properties (win95/98) or the current active connection properties (probably local area connection under 2000)
After that, plug your two computers together and your *should* be able to see each other. Make sure both computers have client for microsoft networks installed and the computer you are trying to see has File and Printer sharing for microsoft networks.

hope that helped a little.
 

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I've run into the problem where even with everything seemingly configured properly, the other computer wouldn't automatically show up. To get them to see each other, I had to right-click on Network Neighborhood, select Find Computer, and enter the other computer's name. Showed up in Network Neighborhood from then on...
 

ST4RCUTTER

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Pagealert,

Ok, give us a rundown of each NIC and the IP's/subnet mask you are using etc. Have you tried to detect the network as Journeman said? I think I had to do that with my network as well.
 

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Just to make sure could you please look at both terminations of your cable and tell me the order of the wires on each end, this is just to be safe, i know you said it was a cross-over but i want to make sure...Also are you getting green lights on your nic?
 

Davegod75

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1. first thing to check is for a link light.
2. Tell us the ip and subnet you have for each computer.
 

dowxp

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1)check if light is on.
2)preset ip's to ping em.
3)if they ping, then, ur all good.
4)setworkgroup and go!
 

Pagealert

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OK.. the green light is on on both NIC cards.. the cable color is red, green, blue, orange on one.. and red, orange blue and green on the other.. (i think).. both computers have Client for Microsoft Network, Client for Family logon, IPX/SPX, NetBeui, Tcp/Ip, and File &amp; Printer sharing installed.. They are both sen ton workgroup: WORKGROUP, and are both set on Client for Microsoft network for primary network logon. ... The first IP address is 192.168.0.1 and the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0, the second IP address is 192.168.0.2 and the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0.... when i try to ping.. nothing happens.. did i miss something???
 

Pederv

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Looks like you might have a 10MBit crossover cable, a 100MBit cable has more wires. Remember what I said, if playing with the network settings doesn't work try the NIC's in different slots. You might get multiple instances of the NIC in the Network Neighborhood, but the protocols should transfer to the new location. I think the TCP/IP address and subnet will probably have to be re-entered.
 

Davegod75

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you don't need IPX/SPX or netbuei. they are just clutter. I would personally uninstall them.

could you post some screen shots of your tcp/ip properties config window along with the rest of the tabs. Just hit alt-printscreen to capture the active window. the open a image editor and hit paste.


thanks
 

Pagealert

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i can't get the print screen to work.. but under the tcp/ip properties, the only thing i changed is the IP address.. where i clicked &quot;specify and IP address: and put 192.168.0.1 for addy and 255.255.255.0 for subnet mask. . i'll try to figure out the paste thing.. do i have to change the gateway?????