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PJABBER

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Dinner will be served in a couple of minutes, so I am indulging in a fine glass of Gabriele Rausse Virginia Chardonnay, the 2008 Reserve.

Coincidentally, I am reading a story headlining on Drudge, confirming some of my statements above.

It doesn't merit a separate thread but I hope you enjoy it as much as I am enjoying my Chardonnay.

Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'

by Anne E. Kornblut
The Washington Post
April 2, 2010; 3:01 PM ET

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CHARLOTTE - Even by President Obama's loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

"We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer - more than 2,500 words long -- wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, "F-Map"). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").

Always fond of lists, Obama ticked off his approach to health care -- twice. "Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said.

A few minutes later he got to the next point, which seemed awfully similar to the first. "Number two, you don't know who might end up being in that situation," he said, then carried on explaining further still.

"Point number three is that the way insurance companies have been operating, even if you've got health insurance you don't always know what you got, because what has been increasingly the practice is that if you're not lucky enough to work for a big company that is a big pool, that essentially is almost a self-insurer, then what's happening is, is you're going out on the marketplace, you may be buying insurance, you think you're covered, but then when you get sick they decide to drop the insurance right when you need it," Obama continued, winding on with the answer.

Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned.

But Obama wasn't finished. He had a "final point," before starting again with another list -- of three points.

"What we said is, number one, we'll have the basic principle that everybody gets coverage," he said, before launching into the next two points, for a grand total of seven.

His wandering approach might not matter if Obama weren't being billed as the chief salesman of the health-care overhaul. Public opinion on the bill remains divided, and Democratic officials are planning to send Obama into the country to persuade wary citizens that it will work for them in the long run.

It was not evident that he changed any minds at Friday's event. The audience sat politely, but people in the back of the room began to wander off.

Even Obama seemed to recognize that he had gone on too long. He apologized -- in keeping with the spirit of the moment, not once, but twice. "Boy, that was a long answer. I'm sorry," he said, drawing nervous laughter that sounded somewhat like relief as he wrapped up.

But, he said: "I hope I answered your question."

You betcha.
 
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Descartes

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Dinner will be served in a couple of minutes, so I am indulging in a fine glass of Gabriele Rausse Virginia Chardonnay, the 2008 Reserve.

Coincidentally, I am reading a story headlining on Drudge, confirming some of my statements above.

It doesn't merit a separate thread but I hope you enjoy it as much as I am enjoying my Chardonnay.



You betcha.

1) Chardonnay is shit. ;)

2) What point are you trying to make? :)

/sipping my Cognac
 

Red Dawn

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Palin is only on once a week or so with the "American Stories" show, isn't she?

Don't ask me, I never watch Faux Noise, MSNBC or any of that Bullshit called Cable news

Alternatively, you COULD watch Glen Beck and drive yourself into a frenzy (or be highly entertained.)

Myself, I think Neil Cavuto at 4P EST has the only news show worth watching regularly on FOX. Really one of the best news programs being broadcast these days.
I think I'll just sequester myself in the guest room with a bottle of the Glenlivet
 

retrospooty

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If we are suppose to ignore her then why are you making threads about her?

LOL - great point. It reminds me of that song... YOUR so vain. YOU probably thing this song is about YOU.

Lets see, the title mentions the person that it isn't about and the chorus mentions it 3x. Ya, the song is in fact about you.

I personally think we should keep Palin - she is perfect as is. The serves to remind us all what happens when we vote that direction (8 years of Bush). She only helps the left, and harms the right.
 

umbrella39

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Dinner will be served in a couple of minutes, so I am indulging in a fine glass of Gabriele Rausse Virginia Chardonnay, the 2008 Reserve.

Translation:

I just got done drinking my Kool-Aid through my sippy cup and burped a little bit into my mouth and thought I'd share...
 

PJABBER

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Don't ask me, I never watch Faux Noise, MSNBC or any of that Bullshit called Cable news

I think I'll just sequester myself in the guest room with a bottle of the Glenlivet

I only really like to watch the financial news stations, but being in DC I keep up with the political debates so that I will be witty at court chatter when I meet the resident royalty.

The Glenlivet is good for whatever might ail you. But I have recently been reintroduced to Canadian Club (lighter than a Scotch, smoother than a Bourbon.) Preferred by the likes of Queen Victoria, James Bond and Al Capone, since 1858.
 

PJABBER

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Translation:

I just got done drinking my Kool-Aid through my sippy cup and burped a little bit into my mouth and thought I'd share...

Good for you!

Someone
has to drink the dreck. Thank God it is not me. :awe:
 

Estrella

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I think this thread was an epic failure. I was just hoping to see one person write,"Ok," and then I would watch it die.
 

PJABBER

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I think this thread was an epic failure. I was just hoping to see one person write,"Ok," and then I would watch it die.

Palin threads are da bomb!

With which other person can both lefties and righties express their desires and fantasies over and over again to the acclaim of their peers?

:awe:
 

Estrella

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Palin threads are da bomb!

With which other person can both lefties and righties express their desires and fantasies over and over again to the acclaim of their peers?

:awe:

You are missing my point: the thread is not about Palin -- she is just one DAMN good example.
 

PJABBER

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You are missing my point: the thread is not about Palin -- she is just one DAMN good example.

Do you HAVE to curse?

Palin is just the legitimizing trigger for whatever it is you want to discuss. Everything is good in a Palin thread!

Using a thread title with Palin in it is good for hundreds of fun posts and thousands of views!

The gold market collapses, Palin comments - 560 posts, 1,456 views

Palin seen reading an article on moon exploration - 789 posts, 2,345 views

Palin kisses baby in crowd - 987 posts, 876 views

Inquirer has photo of Obama kissing Palin (Yuck!) - 9,876 posts, 2,638,654 views and counting!


Everybody knows this.

(I've got to say, since I saw The Pig use that phrase so effectively in virtually all of the substantive posts he makes, I now find it quite catchy.)
 
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Estrella

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Do you HAVE to curse?

Palin is just the legitimizing trigger for whatever it is you want to discuss. Everything is good in a Palin thread!

Using a thread title with Palin in it is good for hundreds of fun posts and thousands of views!

The gold market collapses, Palin comments - 560 posts, 1,456 views

Palin seen reading an article on moon exploration - 789 posts, 2,345 views

Palin kisses baby in crowd - 987 posts, 876 views

Inquirer has photo of Obama kissing Palin (Yuck!) - 9,876 posts, 2,638,654 views and counting!


Everybody knows this.

(I've got to say, since I saw The Pig use that phrase so effectively in virtually all of the substantive posts he makes, I now find it quite catchy.)

Yes, for emphasis.

Please see OP for the bolded.
 
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DukeN

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I hope more and more attention is given to this bimbo. This will ensure the teabaggers lose again.
 

Lemon law

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Gotta love the Estella contention of, "Using a thread title with Palin in it is good for hundreds of fun posts and thousands of views!

The gold market collapses, Palin comments - 560 posts, 1,456 views

Palin seen reading an article on moon exploration - 789 posts, 2,345 views

Palin kisses baby in crowd - 987 posts, 876 views"

We all have to admit Sarah Palin attracts a lot of attention, but the question is and remains, in terms of US votes does Palin attract more Votes than the Voters she alienates.

And if Palin does indeed alienate more voters than than she attracts, she is a net democratic asset and a GOP liability.
 

PJABBER

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Gotta love the Estella contention of, "Using a thread title with Palin in it is good for hundreds of fun posts and thousands of views!

Actually, that is my contention. Please give credit where credit is due!

And you dropped the final zinger...

Inquirer has photo of Obama kissing Palin (Yuck!) - 9,876 posts, 2,638,654 views and counting!