If youre on the fence about the HD2...

zerocool84

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WOW that's really hot but with the HTC Evo 4G annoucement I just can't do that any more. I was going to buy a Nexus One and had all the money saved up and was ready to jump the gun this weekend but everything is waiting for the Evo 4G.
 

Buttzilla

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Oct 12, 2000
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here i was hoping google would announce the nexus verizon deal...but the evo phone looks sweet!
 

rudeguy

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hmm....I have one phone that's not under contract. I wonder if I could resign that one and get that deal?
 

Pliablemoose

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LOL, did buy one, get one free on the HD2 and added 2 lines of service to my family plan.

$99/phone plus a $200 ETF works out to $300/phone, will sell one on eBay to cover the price of the one I keep.
 

preslove

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Sep 10, 2003
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The $449 no-contract price is actually really good, too. It allows you to get the $59 rate.

But, it's also $99 at wirefly, with Bing $50 cash back...

So, what's t-mobile's ETF like?
 

Pliablemoose

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The $449 no-contract price is actually really good, too. It allows you to get the $59 rate.

But, it's also $99 at wirefly, with Bing $50 cash back...

So, what's t-mobile's ETF like?

$200

With wirefly, etc, its a headache to roll everything into my family plan...
 

Deeko

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Jun 16, 2000
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If you were on the fence....get it.

I got mine last night. The store called me and said they were selling a limited amount a day early to reduce the load today (you'd be surprised how much interest a top WM phone gets at cell phone stores on or near Microsoft's campus, haha). So far its great.

The phone does everything fast & snappy. It has the full version of Swype pre-installed along with HTC's keyboard. I typically hate on screen keyboards, but love Swype, so this made the transition from QWERTY-land a lot better. It is FAST. Browsing is especially snappy - considerably faster than my overclocked Droid. Pinch to zoom works well. WM 6.5 has some nice features - myPhone automated backups, the lock screen actually surfaces information (how many emails/texts/missed calls you have, and you can go straight to one of them when you unlock if you want), and Sense 2.5 is great. I've used Android's Sense before - this is nicer. All kinds of stuff pre-installed that you wouldn't normally expect (although early reports did note this). Blockbuster streaming service, mobitv (I haven't tried either of these), Barnes & Noble's e-reader app (useless to me since I have a Kindle, not a Nook, arg), Guitar Hero 5, Transformers 1 & 2 movies.

I'll have a better opinion in a few weeks, but so far, I definitely recommend it.
 

Deeko

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$200 even for Smartphones? Wow.

I wonder what this will do to the ebay price, since someone can get essentially get it to sell for $250+ fees.

Its also only $449 without contract, pretty cheap for a device like this. That's what I went with, because with T-Mobile if you pay full price for the phone, you get a decent (~$20) discount on your plan, in addition to the usual advantage of no contract.
 

Pliablemoose

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If you were on the fence....get it.

I got mine last night. The store called me and said they were selling a limited amount a day early to reduce the load today (you'd be surprised how much interest a top WM phone gets at cell phone stores on or near Microsoft's campus, haha). So far its great.

The phone does everything fast & snappy. It has the full version of Swype pre-installed along with HTC's keyboard. I typically hate on screen keyboards, but love Swype, so this made the transition from QWERTY-land a lot better. It is FAST. Browsing is especially snappy - considerably faster than my overclocked Droid. Pinch to zoom works well. WM 6.5 has some nice features - myPhone automated backups, the lock screen actually surfaces information (how many emails/texts/missed calls you have, and you can go straight to one of them when you unlock if you want), and Sense 2.5 is great. I've used Android's Sense before - this is nicer. All kinds of stuff pre-installed that you wouldn't normally expect (although early reports did note this). Blockbuster streaming service, mobitv (I haven't tried either of these), Barnes & Noble's e-reader app (useless to me since I have a Kindle, not a Nook, arg), Guitar Hero 5, Transformers 1 & 2 movies.

I'll have a better opinion in a few weeks, but so far, I definitely recommend it.


Must be nice, my local TtMo store would only allow me to look at a dummy phone :(

Ordered mine online this morning
 

preslove

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Sep 10, 2003
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Its also only $449 without contract, pretty cheap for a device like this. That's what I went with, because with T-Mobile if you pay full price for the phone, you get a decent (~$20) discount on your plan, in addition to the usual advantage of no contract.

Yeah, but if you get the phone for $50 with contract and pay the $20/month premium, it will take you 20 months to pay that $400.

Let's say you break the contract after 12 months, it will cost you $50 + $100 pro-rated ETF + $240 rate premium = $390.

And, the funny thing is, because the rate premium is $20 and the pro-rating works out to $8.33 per month, it makes sense to break your contract sooner, rather than later.

Damn, maybe I should get the HD2 now & switch to the EVO when it comes out...
 

jdl1681

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Just a heads up if you order your HD2 through T-Mobile online make sure to go through bing. They are offering 35% off the phone right now which brings it down to $300
 

Deeko

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Yeah, but if you get the phone for $50 with contract and pay the $20/month premium, it will take you 20 months to pay that $400.

Let's say you break the contract after 12 months, it will cost you $50 + $100 pro-rated ETF + $240 rate premium = $390.

And, the funny thing is, because the rate premium is $20 and the pro-rating works out to $8.33 per month, it makes sense to break your contract sooner, rather than later.

Damn, maybe I should get the HD2 now & switch to the EVO when it comes out...

I don't think T-Mobile pro-rates their ETF fee. Its a straight 200.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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Just a heads up if you order your HD2 through T-Mobile online make sure to go through bing. They are offering 35% off the phone right now which brings it down to $300

Damn, just as I was about to order it through Bing/Wirefly this is going to make me do some math...

Let's see:

Wirefly = $100 - $50 Bing CB = $50 + ($20 subsidized plan premium * 6 months) = 170 + 150 ETF (prorated after 6 months) = $320- ebay price I sell it at.

T-Mobile = 450 - 157 Bing CB = $293 - ebay price.

Another thing, with wirefly I would have to wait 181 days before canceling my T-Mobile plan, whereas I could switch to EVO whenever I wanted with the unsubsidized phone.

Decisions... :hmm:


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I don't think T-Mobile pro-rates their ETF fee. Its a straight 200.

That's illegal. The FCC has mandated that there has to be some form of pro-rating system. I'm going to call T-mobile tonight to get the break down, but now I'm leaning toward getting it off-contract, anyway.
 
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jdl1681

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Yeah I had been trying to get another smart phone for a EM+ family plan that I was to start up but since I wanted to keep my budget below 500 for 2 phones that nixed the nexus one. But after seeing this i couldn't resist pulling the trigger on that deal sub $300 for that phone is insane and always the hope of a android port
 

Deeko

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That's illegal. The FCC has mandated that there has to be some form of pro-rating system. I'm going to call T-mobile tonight to get the break down, but now I'm leaning toward getting it off-contract, anyway.

I just looked it up, apparently they do prorate, but its in big jumps - from $200 down to $100 after 12 months, then down to $50 towards the end. So unlike, say, Verizon's $5 off per month deal, 11.5 months = $200 ETF.
 

EarthwormJim

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LOL, did buy one, get one free on the HD2 and added 2 lines of service to my family plan.

$99/phone plus a $200 ETF works out to $300/phone, will sell one on eBay to cover the price of the one I keep.

You'd still have to pay some activation fee and the first month. So add like $50 per phone, or less if you already have tmobile; then you'd still have to pay the $30 internet on the second phone.
 

Pliablemoose

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You'd still have to pay some activation fee and the first month. So add like $50 per phone, or less if you already have tmobile; then you'd still have to pay the $30 internet on the second phone.

Part of the windowsmobile deal is free activation...