If your Radeon has been locking up, I think I fixed mine (VIA-KT133-Duron)

[NicColt]

My system

Duron 650@900 FSB=100
250W power supply
A7V 1.01 1005C
Via 4-1 v4.28, DX8A
AIW-Radeon now with the 3063's now.
I found that the 3063's work much better on the KT133 boards.
The 3063's were also the last version based on DX7 anything
above that is geared towards DX8. Here's my Reg edits.
Just copy the following to a radeon.reg file and merge it.
If you think anything else should be in here let me know.

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ATI Technologies\Driver\0000\atidxhal]
"EnableWaitUntilIdxTriList2"="1"
"TableFogEnable"="1"
"WFogEnable"="1"
"ZFogEnable"="1"
"DisableHierarchicalZ"="0"
"DisableHyperZ"="0"
"FastZClearEnabled"="1"
"Vsync"="0"
"AntiAlias"="0"
"ZFormats"="15"
"ExportCompressedTex"="1"
"DitherAlpha"="1"
"ExportWBuffer"="0"

I've been running my Duron 650 at 900 with RC5 for the longest time, I had my AIW-Radeon over a month. The radeon has it's problems but it wasn't locking up, I installaed the 7072's and all of a sudden my system started locking up randomly, at first I was sure that the newer beta 7072 drivers for my Radeon was the problem, but others were not locking up at all with the same config that I had.

A couple of days ago I formatted with a clean install of 98 and drivers only, I installed the 3056 CD release drivers and I was still locking up randomly and even without running RC5. I did a search and found this thread so I decided to lower my cpu from 900 to 850 and keep the same vcore and now two days into it now running RC5 nonstop at 50c and no lockups whatsoever, so far so good.

Either RC5 24/7 is taking it's toll on my poor Duron or this card requires more juice or my 250W is not enough. I was unfairly bashing the lockups on the new Radeon drivers which I shouldn't of done. If your system is locking up try reducing the CPU 50mhz. All I can say is that it worked for me. I don't want to use the 7072's because they still have the record playback 30's problem. I hope they fix that soon and of course come to their senses and release VfW support.

Nic

 

[Taz4158]

I posted those settings a long time ago. They REALLY are the only ones needed. You might add colorfill=1 as well.

 

[NicColt]

Thanks for that info Taz.

Update: even with the 3063's I still can't play back a recording from an external source for more than 30's.

 

[Taz4158]

Nick try the newer special purpose drivers. I know ya don't want to but give it a shot.

 

[pen^2]

whoa, wait a second:


<< &quot;TableFogEnable&quot;=&quot;1&quot; >>

better change it already or u will get some mad texture flashing in sacrifice and giants.


<< &quot;VSync&quot;=&quot;0&quot; >>

hmmm... i always thought all vsync disbled does is a possible chance of tearing...

 

[Taz4158]

<< << << &quot;TableFogEnable&quot;=&quot;1&quot; >>

better change it already or u will get some mad texture flashing in sacrifice and giants.
>> >>


No you won't. Make sure you have &quot;ExportWBuffer&quot;=&quot;0&quot;

 

[pen^2]

strange, i guess its just me remember my thread, taz? &quot;ExportWBuffer&quot;=&quot;0&quot; wasnt waht solved my problem...

 

[Taz4158]

<< strange, i guess its just me remember my thread, taz? &quot;ExportWBuffer&quot;=&quot;0&quot; wasnt waht solved my problem >>


Course I remember!

 

[pen^2]

giants now runs like champ, but sacrifice still needs a bit of work tho. it doesnt have that &quot;tow-layer&quot; seperation thingy, but whenever i am not looking at the guy, all i get is sky texture... even worse, i cant see the damn menu either

 

[NicColt]

I tried them all, the 3063 seem to work for me now.

Can anyone record from a vcr and then play the clip more than 30's.

 

[pen^2]

oh wow, nm, TableFogEnable = 1 is fine... i still dont understand how i failed to see i had WFog on!

 

[zsir]

<< Can anyone record from a vcr and then play the clip more than 30's. >>



I tried em all too. I settled on the via 4.28's and ATI 3063's.....

The beta's just hosed VCR recording.

So now I can record in high quality with no frames dropped and I can play back the files.

File play back is the weak point. I'd guess 30% of the time system will lock up during playback. After I reboot I can palyback the file without any problem.

When it does lock there is a thin green line across the top of the screen.

1ghz T bird
win 98SE
msi pro 2-a

 

[NicColt]

<< So now I can record in high quality with no frames dropped and I can play back the files. >>



But your able to record from another source like a vcr or camcorder and play it back more than 30's. right?

 

[zsir]

I haven't tried any of the video in\video out stuff. I really don't expect that to work smoothly at least from the posts I've read. One of these days I'll try video in from a camcorder.



Are you saying that ATI VCR recordings play back fine and it's other video in files that crash?

I'll try some of your settings and see how they work for me.

 

[NicColt]

The ATI AIW-Radeon card has a Tuner and video-in inputs. Now try to figure this out. I still have not found anyone who can comment or explain this.

No matter what drivers I use and no matter what I play into the video-in inputs such as VCR or Camcorder, it will record fine BUT when I go to play the recorded material no matter what file it is or codec, mp2, AVI, compression, no-compression, divx it won't play back more than 30 seconds after 30's it will loop the last 3 seconds but the sound continues.

Like I said, the ATI card has a tuner where you plug-in the Cable. If I record the TV through the tuner I have no problems and I can also play back the TV-recorded file with any codec I want even divx with no problems.

Now here's the bizzare part.

Now my VCR has two types of output, it has the rca video and audio out and it has the vhf-out, some also have the s-vhs video out but mine doesn't. The vhf-out is basically the passthrough for the cable in. The cable in is the same cable that I would connect to the ATI's tuner to record the TV.

Normally when you install a vcr you input the Cable or Antenna-in into the vcr's vhf-in and you plug the vhf-out into the TV to watch TV and when you would press play on your VCR you would watch the tape.

Remember, if I use the Cable plugged into the ATI tuner I can record the TV and play the files fine. However if I plug the cable into the vcr's vhf-in and plug the vcr's vhf-out into the ATI tuner. In other words use the passthrough instead, I can record TV and playback those files fine but if I press play and even though it's going trough the same cable into the tuner I can't playback more than 30's the video through the same cable.

The Question: How in the world can the ATI tuner differentiate between the TV signal and the VCR play signal coming from the same analog cable ???

No matter what I do, if it's not TV I can't record it.

 

[zsir]

Nic Colt


I read ur post in another thread, you seem to have gotten 7072's to work with ATIVCR recording TV shows. You can use any codec and quality and not have dropped frames over 5%????

You never have any lock ups when playing back these files?

I read ur install procedure and I'm dreading another format but I'll try that next time.

During one of my setups I can't remember which one I was getting a lot of lockups during file playback. I haven't had any lockups during recording. Anyway I noticed that even if I used WMP to play back the file I would get lockups. So it was the file not ATI file player.

All I wanted to do was be able to record shows to hard drive and save them on CDR. I still haven't figured out how to get a 1.43gig mpeg2 file into divx and onto cdr.

ATI drivers\support are killing what could be a great card\chipset

This will probably be the last card I buy from ATI....

 

[NicColt]

sorry zsir I'm a little late, but I'm now using the 3063's now, the TV and recording work a little better IMO. The problem I have now is that I can't record an outside source like a vcr or camcorder and play them back more than 30 seconds. But I can record TV with any codec, mp2 or whatever and specially divx and play them back with no problems and no matter where they are located.

If ATi were to ever fix some minor gaming issues, include VfW and fix the no playback on the external source recording and release unified drivers based on the Radeon core it would be Utopia. However, like trying to find a virgin at a rave concert, I really don't see that happening anything soon.

 

[rbV5]

<How in the world can the ATI tuner differentiate between the TV signal and the VCR play signal coming from the same analog cable ???>

Macrovision, I don't know if thats your problem Nic, but if you've ever played a rented/bought video on your vcr and watched, it looks fine, but hook up another vcr and record it....it can certainly tell!

 

[NicColt]

rbV5 if it's that it's not working well, I understand what your saying though.

BUT, anything coming from the vhf-out from the vcr can't be played more than 30 seconds. including TV, my personal homemade family tapes, my birthday vids from my camcorder is plugged into my vcr-in ect. nothing.

I'm sure it has todo with that dammed DirecShow.

 

[rbV5]

Nope, the stuff you record with your camcorder wont have macrovision.

Are you recording the external video source to a file and then playing back a video file? Or are you trying to record and watch the file in real time? Are all of the external sources you have tried coming through your vcr and into your composite video in?

 

[NicColt]

>Nope, the stuff you record with your camcorder wont have macrovision.

I know, but I can record it but when I play it back it get's stuck at 30 seconds. no matter if I plug it through the vcr or directly into the composite in. I'm not the only one either a whole bunch of people are having this problem.

All I want to know is, are there any users that can record and play back more than 30's. if so what are your system specs.

Nic

 

[wizz0bang]

I can do those things under Win2k (see my system specs below for the sys info you asked about)... but I can't even watch the TV tuner under 98se!!! With Win2k All I did was:
Format D: partition
Install Win2k Professional (dual boot with 98SE)
Install 3056 Radeon drivers (found on CD)

Bam... it works..> I can watch TV, record and play .mp2 and avi files.

I've tried every conceivable combination of drivers (via 4in1, directx, radeon drivers, windows updates, bios settins, registry hacks, yadadadadada...) for 98SE and I can't watch the TV tuner OR video capture for more than a few seconds without a system lockup Go figure. Although the card works fine under D3D or OpenGL for games... I love it for that.

I too am REALLY dissapointed... I bought this card in October SPECIFICALLY to record Babylon 5 and burn it to CD-Rs (using either .mp2 qulaity settings or flask)... but I can't do squat on my 98SE system (I only recently tried Win2k out of despiration). I think ATI could have had a wonderful multimedia solution... but if they don't solve these software glitches, I'll never buy an ATI product again.

Weird...
Brad

 

[NicColt]

Jee Wizz (grin) I keep hearing that the 3056 seem to work for the external source capture but I really don't want to go back to those, I'm thiking of trying the 7075's.

>SPECIFICALLY to record Babylon 5 and burn it to CD-Rs
>but I can't do squat on my 98SE system

I hear ya. I'm in the same position you're in. I wanted to put all my wedding vid's on cd-r's I have a bunch of 8mm film that date in the 60's and 70's that are in need to be put on cd-r's but now in order for me to do that believe it or not I have to buy a capture card that support's the VfW WDM dirver model !!!! I was under the impression that the AIW Radeon would be THE card, but I was wrong and even though I have paid $385Cdn for this capture card and because this damm card won't work with it's present WDM DirectShow implementation I can't use it. I don't know what the hell ATI or Microsoft were thinking but we the consumer end up dry because of it, again.

Welcome to the All-In-Blunder Radeon.

Nic

 

[wizz0bang]

You could try doing a dual boot to Win2k... perhaps you will luck out with that too... if I need to do a few specific captures, I think I will do that. I'm peeved because I leave my win98 box up for other other reasons... and to use the VCR functions I would have to leave it in Win2k, which I really don't want to do Of course I might have just gotten lucky! If I reinstall win2k it might not work again hehe... or if I install any apps it might stop working

I too was under the impression it would work with video for windows My friend has great sucess with his AIW 128 Pro... I assumed the Radeon AIW would be at least as good.

I lucked out and bought mine last october for $200US, so I don't feel too jipped... it's a wonderful 3d card, probably better than a Geforce GTS; so I really didn't loose out completely. Also, it has the best integrated DVD playback on the market, and that works just fine (better quality than my old Cinemaster card, which worked better than the creative dxr3 boards).

I just wish I could pipe the DVD out to the tv-out and run my desktop independantly (like I could do with my Cinemaster)... but it's WYSIWYG on the desktop, synched to the TV out... but no biggie. It was kind of cool to be watching a DVD on the TV and checking my e-mail, typing papers or playing games on my monitor But hey, I should just get a set top DVD Oh, and I notice the DVD frame rate skips a bit if I run heavy apps on the PC now, with the Cinemaster the framerate never skipped even if I played light games like MM8 (though QUake or something would trash it).... and that was on my old 333mhz cele!!! In comparison, the image quality on the TV is no different between the two, but the picture quality on the PC monitor is much better in favor of the Radeon. But I gather the impression the Radeon is slightly CPU dependant, if I check my e-mail the dvd skips a few frames (barely noticable, but there). Also, with the Cinemaster card I used to have &quot;2010: the year we made contact&quot; running 24/7 in the background as my desktop It was a really cool nerdy thing to do... but the Radeon won't even come close to doing that. The Cinemaster was DirectX Inlay, no wires connecting it to the card, so the color on the monitor was only 16bit The Radeon does 32bit to the monitor (both did true color out to the TV though). Also, ATI's DVD software is really buggy with the DVD menus... it plays movies fine, but the menus just don't look right and don't move smoothly (they &quot;jitter&quot The Cinemaster was indistinguashable from my friend's set top box in all respects. Occasionaly one of the menus gets stuck and I have to restart the DVD software... probably just a bug the next revision will fix.